MR

Posted: **Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:24 pm**

Hi all, it only occurred to me recently. Steve Perry and the use of "vibrato" using it wisely, if at all. Only The Young, Perry's version compared to Arnel's version is an interesting listen. Unlike a lot of other singers, Perry and Lou Gramm, two singers who time their songs to perfection in my opinion. Another singer who is just as good as those two, is John Farnham, but because mostly Americans probably read this board, Perry and Gramm are my examples.

What are peoples thoughts on Perry and his singing techniques, the timing when to use vibrato, and when not too put all your eggs in one basket such as the likes of Don Dokken. And what sets Perry and Gramm a part from their Peers?

Posted: **Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:30 pm**

Too much is overkill.............Perry seems to have great control...........The man's voice is strong, controlled, and beautiful.

I love Mariah Carreys voice, but find she has a tendency to over use the vibrato, and lilts, sometimes to the detriment of a song. Sometimes less is more.

Posted: **Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:57 pm**

Perry is THE benchmark for proper vibrato. Too much and you sound like an old lady singing. Too little and you sound bland. Proper use is limited on each word and mainly on the end of a phrase. Perry's control of the vibrato is simply amazing. Jeremey from frontiers suffers from too much vibrato occasionally, if he could nail that..wow.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:56 am**

Perry's vibrato is impressive; there's a particular instance that springs to mind at the end of "Sweet and Simple", where he sings "sweet as sugar, sugar, sugar" and it comes off as sublime.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:58 am**

Gideon wrote:Perry's vibrato is impressive; there's a particular instance that springs to mind at the end of "Sweet and Simple", where he sings "sweet as sugar, sugar, sugar" and it comes off as sublime.

Perfect example, Giddy!!! I love that song!! :wink:

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:21 am**

Friga uses a good vibrator

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:30 am**

Michigan Girl wrote:
Gideon wrote:Perry's vibrato is impressive; there's a particular instance that springs to mind at the end of "Sweet and Simple", where he sings "sweet as sugar, sugar, sugar" and it comes off as sublime.

Perfect example, Giddy!!! I love that song!!

The lyrics are terrible, but it is a vocal masterpiece.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:31 am**

"Somethin To Hide"

Perry at his best.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:36 am**

whirlwind wrote:"Somethin To Hide"

Perry at his best.

Egads! No! No, sir/ma'am. That coveted title belongs to "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever", which is enough to induce orgasm even in the straightest of men!

But "Something to Hide" is a fantastic song in its own right. Shame Perry's voice is criminally neglected in the public spectacle.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:45 am**

induce orgasm even in the straightest of men...................Watch it

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:45 am**

To me, the "Benchmark" of the Perry Vibrato is "Sandcastles".

Straight tone on the word "dreams" - and the "tags" the vibrato at the end of the held word.
MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF CONTROL to do that!

Not only that....but the Vibrato starts out on a slow cycle, and gets faster. :shock:

Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7GaOg6uT38

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:46 am**

stevew2 wrote:induce orgasm even in the straightest of men...................Watch it

Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:49 am**

Gideon wrote:
whirlwind wrote:"Somethin To Hide"

Perry at his best.

Egads! No! No, sir/ma'am. That coveted title belongs to "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever", which is enough to induce orgasm even in the straightest of men!

But "Something to Hide" is a fantastic song in its own right. Shame Perry's voice is criminally neglected in the public spectacle.

Sorry! That song is a music lesson in control and Perry's voice makes it perfection. The last note is his most beautiful of any of his songs, imo. WCTNGOF is amazing and I never understood why it never made it as a greatest hits.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:56 am**

whirlwind wrote:
Gideon wrote:
whirlwind wrote:"Somethin To Hide"

Perry at his best.

Egads! No! No, sir/ma'am. That coveted title belongs to "Why Can't This Night Go On Forever", which is enough to induce orgasm even in the straightest of men!

But "Something to Hide" is a fantastic song in its own right. Shame Perry's voice is criminally neglected in the public spectacle.

Sorry! That song is a music lesson in control and Perry's voice makes it perfection. The last note is his most beautiful of any of his songs, imo. WCTNGOF is amazing and I never understood why it never made it as a greatest hits.

Has Perry ever performed "Something to Hide" live?

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:15 am**

Gideon wrote:
stevew2 wrote:induce orgasm even in the straightest of men...................Watch it

Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

other men dont turn me on,you got me mixed up with my avatar

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:22 am**

Perry is just pure perfection. The guy knows when to draw out notes and use his vibrato in the right time. He also knows when not to use to much vibrato. Arnel seems to overkill some of the songs a bit and then comes short on some others when compared to Perry. No one can come close to how Perry's was able to use his voice.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:46 am**

Gideon wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Gideon wrote:Perry's vibrato is impressive; there's a particular instance that springs to mind at the end of "Sweet and Simple", where he sings "sweet as sugar, sugar, sugar" and it comes off as sublime.

Perfect example, Giddy!!! I love that song!!

The lyrics are terrible, but it is a vocal masterpiece.

lol!!!
I wouldn't refer to them as terrible, they are definitely Sweet and Simple and the
song is definitely showcasing the voice!!! I agree, Vocal Masterpiece!! :wink:

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:41 am**

Don Dokken is the undisputed vibrato king...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtGU00po08

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:02 am**

weatherman90 wrote:Don Dokken is the undisputed vibrato king...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtGU00po08

.......and vibrato queen. Love the contrast/mix of Ronnie's and Eddie's vocals on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhXmSBlS_U

I love Perry's vibrato. Lots, but not too much like Texafana posted, and no vibrato is very boring to me.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:07 am**

Deb wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:Don Dokken is the undisputed vibrato king...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtGU00po08

.......and vibrato queen. Love the contrast/mix of Ronnie's and Eddie's vocals on this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhXmSBlS_U

I love Perry's vibrato. Lots, but not too much like Texafana posted, and no vibrato is very boring to me.

Great song, never noticed her vibrato was so prominent!

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:11 am**

weatherman90 wrote:
Deb wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:Don Dokken is the undisputed vibrato king...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtGU00po08

.......and vibrato queen. Love the contrast/mix of Ronnie's and Eddie's vocals on this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhXmSBlS_U

I love Perry's vibrato. Lots, but not too much like Texafana posted, and no vibrato is very boring to me.

Great song, never noticed her vibrato was so prominent!

Reminds me a little of Perry/Rollie's vocal contrasts back in the day.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:19 am**

Perry's post-83 vibrato sets the standard. To have rasp and vibrato is something special. Songs like After The Fall, Strung Out and I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass" are absolutely incredible. Great depth and control.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:23 am**

Saint John wrote:Perry's post-83 vibrato sets the standard. To have rasp and vibrato is something special. Songs like After The Fall, Strung Out and I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass" are absolutely incredible. Great depth and control.

Couldn't agree more! And love those 3 songs. I just love it when my faves sing motown/r&b, their vibrato comes out more.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:30 am**

Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:Perry's post-83 vibrato sets the standard. To have rasp and vibrato is something special. Songs like After The Fall, Strung Out and I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass" are absolutely incredible. Great depth and control.

Couldn't agree more! And love those 3 songs. I just love it when my faves sing motown/r&b, their vibrato comes out more.

Those songs are simply superb. I do have to admit that, with the exception of When You Love A Woman, a lot of that magical vibrato seemed to be gone circa TBF and he began to sound a bit "hollow"...if that makes any sense. But If He Should Break Your Heart is still my favorite TBF song and I'm not afraid to admit it (though I probably should be here :lol:

).

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:30 am**

"I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass"?

IHSBYH is my favorite Journey song period.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:31 am**

Gideon wrote:"I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass"?

Yeah, that's the slang version. :lol:

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:33 am**

Saint John wrote:
Gideon wrote:"I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass"?
Yeah, that's the slang version.

The updated 2009 title, very nice. Maybe this is how we can market Journey songs to my generation? :lol:

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:43 am**

weatherman90 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Gideon wrote:"I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass"?
Yeah, that's the slang version.

The updated 2009 title, very nice. Maybe this is how we can market Journey songs to my generation?

LOL, now there is a thread............MR's version of song titles! :lol:

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:52 am**

Deb wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Gideon wrote:"I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass"?
Yeah, that's the slang version.

The updated 2009 title, very nice. Maybe this is how we can market Journey songs to my generation?

LOL, now there is a thread............MR's version of song titles!

"Strung The Fuck Out"
"After The Fall Out Boy"
"Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' And Shit"

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:53 am**

Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Gideon wrote:"I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass"?
Yeah, that's the slang version.

The updated 2009 title, very nice. Maybe this is how we can market Journey songs to my generation?

LOL, now there is a thread............MR's version of song titles!

"Strung The Fuck Out"
"After The Fall Out Boy"
"Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' And Shit"

I think this is just getting started. :lol:

MR

Steve Perry and Vibrato

Steve Perry and Vibrato