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and I was amazed at how much I loved the tunes!! I must have listened to "We Will Meet Again" about 15 times--upbeat, rockin', LOVED the singing, LOVED the melody! Really lifted my spirits at work: thanks Steve! There were a couple of other Augeri songs that I thought were pretty dang awesome; it's late and I can't remember the names of them, lol. Anyway, I am ashamed to say that this last month is the first time I really, really just let the songs into my heart and I am so glad they were/are there on my IPod.

I've also been listening to a lot of old Journey with Gregg Rolie and have been amazed by them, too! Absolutely love "Spaceman"; right at the top of my list of favorite songs--Neal laughing at the end was so sweet and poignant... One that I listened to closely last night (doggone it I can't remember the name of it--they played a part of it backward at the end): rockin', fun, melodic, terrific! They all seemed so happy then.

The common denominator amongst all of these songs is Neal. God, what a musician. I don't know if there really is another one that's like him. Haters don't matter really; the music is still there and that's what counts in the end.

P.S. Andrew, I'm sorry you're having a tough time; I hope all is well at home... This other stuff is kinda silly, isn't it? That guy on YouTube got on my nerves pretty quickly with all the cursing; these days I don't think most people will waste their time there... Anyway, sending you best wishes... Please let me know if there's anything I can do..

Sorry this is so long--I usually don't write this much.

fredinator wrote:and I was amazed at how much I loved the tunes!! I must have listened to "We Will Meet Again" about 15 times--upbeat, rockin', LOVED the singing, LOVED the melody! Really lifted my spirits at work: thanks Steve! There were a couple of other Augeri songs that I thought were pretty dang awesome; it's late and I can't remember the names of them, lol. Anyway, I am ashamed to say that this last month is the first time I really, really just let the songs into my heart and I am so glad they were/are there on my IPod.

I've also been listening to a lot of old Journey with Gregg Rolie and have been amazed by them, too! Absolutely love "Spaceman"; right at the top of my list of favorite songs--Neal laughing at the end was so sweet and poignant... One that I listened to closely last night (doggone it I can't remember the name of it--they played a part of it backward at the end): rockin', fun, melodic, terrific! They all seemed so happy then.

The common denominator amongst all of these songs is Neal. God, what a musician. I don't know if there really is another one that's like him. Haters don't matter really; the music is still there and that's what counts in the end.

P.S. Andrew, I'm sorry you're having a tough time; I hope all is well at home... This other stuff is kinda silly, isn't it? That guy on YouTube got on my nerves pretty quickly with all the cursing; these days I don't think most people will waste their time there... Anyway, sending you best wishes... Please let me know if there's anything I can do..

Sorry this is so long--I usually don't write this much.

I enjoyed your post. I also never really listened to their music pre-Perry and starting collecting it. It really does give you an appreciation of Neal's talent.

And We Will Meet Again off of Arrival is a great song, I agree.

fredinator wrote:I am ashamed to say that this last month is the first time I really, really just let the songs into my heart and I am so glad they were/are there on my IPod.

Where were you when he needed you? j/k But it is nice to see Arrival and Steve getting some "more" respect.

I liked that whole CD

"Signs of Life" should have been huge. Love that song.

Gideon wrote:"Signs of Life" should have been huge. Love that song.

Neal is amazing on that song. I always jam along to that song to play that solo. Can't quite figure out the one run he's doing, it's still great though.

Ehwmatt wrote:

Gideon wrote:"Signs of Life" should have been huge. Love that song.

Neal is amazing on that song. I always jam along to that song to play that solo. Can't quite figure out the one run he's doing, it's still great though.

Everything about that song is sublime. Awesome keyboard intro, a kickass solo, a phenomenal vocal by Augeri, superb writing, and awesome vocal harmonies. I could just hear it being a radio hit. Too bad it never was.

I love Walking Away From The Edge as one of their best ballads in the Augeri years off Red 13. Of course, today I feel like walking toward the edge, so maybe that's why I'm thinking of the song.

Jana wrote:I love Walking Away From The Edge as one of their best ballads in the Augeri years off Red 13. Of course, today I feel like walking toward the edge, so maybe that's why I'm thinking of the song.

Agree might be my favorite Journey song, or certainly right up there. I can definitely relate to the message of walking away from the edge- although I seem to constantly walk tward the edge, stand on one foot like a flamingo and then lean over the prepice as far as possible, before I come to my senses.

Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:

Jana wrote:I love Walking Away From The Edge as one of their best ballads in the Augeri years off Red 13. Of course, today I feel like walking toward the edge, so maybe that's why I'm thinking of the song.

Agree might be my favorite Journey song, or certainly right up there. I can definitely relate to the message of walking away from the edge- although I seem to constantly walk tward the edge, stand on one foot like a flamingo and then lean over the prepice as far as possible, before I come to my senses.

Such a great song...not your typical Journey 'love you, don't leave me' ballad. This one had substance, it had meat. Stellar. Never understood why, when the band asked "What song do you want us to play on tour" and WAFTE won, they never played it. I may not be as happy with Arnel, but I would really give almost anything to hear the band play that song in concert!!

Jana wrote:I love Walking Away From The Edge as one of their best ballads in the Augeri years off Red 13. Of course, today I feel like walking toward the edge, so maybe that's why I'm thinking of the song.

One of my favories,never heard them do it live

WAFTE is a great song. I don't listen to it as much as I should thanks to the sloppy Red13 sound

fredinator wrote:
P.S. Andrew, I'm sorry you're having a tough time; I hope all is well at home... This other stuff is kinda silly, isn't it? That guy on YouTube got on my nerves pretty quickly with all the cursing; these days I don't think most people will waste their time there... Anyway, sending you best wishes... Please let me know if there's anything I can do...

Many thanks for the thoughts. The videos are just another thing to deal with, not to worry.

Well, since it's Steve Augeri appreciation day, I just listened to Butterfly (While I was supposed to be working. Slipped on the headphones.). Really beautiful song and vocals. I'm listening to only ballads today, as I have my wrecked car being towed away to the body shop and the refrigerator is flooding my whole kitchen. So only soft music for my raging headache.

Jana wrote:Well, since it's Steve Augeri appreciation day, I just listened to Butterfly (While I was supposed to be working. Slipped on the headphones.). Really beautiful song and vocals. I'm listening to only ballads today, as I have my wrecked car being towed away to the body shop and the refrigerator is flooding my whole kitchen. So only soft music for my raging headache.

Sounds like somebody needs an appreciation thread. Where's Tito?

Gunbot wrote:

Jana wrote:Well, since it's Steve Augeri appreciation day, I just listened to Butterfly (While I was supposed to be working. Slipped on the headphones.). Really beautiful song and vocals. I'm listening to only ballads today, as I have my wrecked car being towed away to the body shop and the refrigerator is flooding my whole kitchen. So only soft music for my raging headache.

Sounds like somebody needs an appreciation thread. Where's Tito?

What happened Jana? I hope you're okay.

SherriBerry wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

Jana wrote:Well, since it's Steve Augeri appreciation day, I just listened to Butterfly (While I was supposed to be working. Slipped on the headphones.). Really beautiful song and vocals. I'm listening to only ballads today, as I have my wrecked car being towed away to the body shop and the refrigerator is flooding my whole kitchen. So only soft music for my raging headache.

Sounds like somebody needs an appreciation thread. Where's Tito?

What happened Jana? I hope you're okay.

Oh, thanks. Hopefully, I will be. I was in a parking lot exit near an intersection. Two lanes of cars stopped waving me through so I could get in the opposite lane of travel. I pulled in front of them and there was no traffic coming the other way as I looked right, but, unfortunatley, a car that was coming up behind the stopped cars went around them to try to get up to a turn lane farther ahead. As he came around them I was easing out and he hit me pretty hard and my car went flying. And I get the ticket, failure to yield, even though he wasn't in a lane.

I still think Generations is Augeri's finest studio hour.

Listened to it in full for the first time in a while yesterday and he is absolutely powerhouse vocally on FITH, TPIYH, Believe, KTYLM and OOHW.

Red13JoePa wrote:I still think Generations is Augeri's finest studio hour.

Listened to it in full for the first time in a while yesterday and he is absolutely powerhouse vocally on FITH, TPIYH, Believe, KTYLM and OOHW.

Quit swimming in the waters around Three Mile Island.

Saint John wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:I still think Generations is Augeri's finest studio hour.

Listened to it in full for the first time in a while yesterday and he is absolutely powerhouse vocally on FITH, TPIYH, Believe, KTYLM and OOHW.

Quit swimming in the waters around Three Mile Island.

No biz even remarking on it, you.

Look, Coln. I know you don't like the era, and that tour was the birth of The Gate, but you cannot tell me those above are not really strong vocals whatever quality you think the songs are.

Red13JoePa wrote:

Saint John wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:I still think Generations is Augeri's finest studio hour.

Listened to it in full for the first time in a while yesterday and he is absolutely powerhouse vocally on FITH, TPIYH, Believe, KTYLM and OOHW.

Quit swimming in the waters around Three Mile Island.

No biz even remarking on it, you.

Look, Coln. I know you don't like the era, and that tour was the birth of The Gate, but you cannot tell me those above are not really strong vocals whatever quality you think the songs are.

Are they really strong vocals or were they pro-tooled and glued together in the studio from multiple upon multiple takes. I agree that the end result is very good but, considering the ensuing tour and the amount of vocal problems that Augeri had, I have no confidence that what we hear on "Generations" is really much more than studio wizardry.

conversationpc wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:

Saint John wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:I still think Generations is Augeri's finest studio hour.

Listened to it in full for the first time in a while yesterday and he is absolutely powerhouse vocally on FITH, TPIYH, Believe, KTYLM and OOHW.

Quit swimming in the waters around Three Mile Island.

No biz even remarking on it, you.

Look, Coln. I know you don't like the era, and that tour was the birth of The Gate, but you cannot tell me those above are not really strong vocals whatever quality you think the songs are.

Are they really strong vocals or were they pro-tooled and glued together in the studio from multiple upon multiple takes. I agree that the end result is very good but, considering the ensuing tour and the amount of vocal problems that Augeri had, I have no confidence that what we hear on "Generations" is really much more than studio wizardry.

Who knows?
EVERY studio album by EVERYbody should be held to the same strict scrutiny standard then.
Yes, I have heard that to get the lead vocal on Faith In The Heartland to sound as good as it did took 2 weeks or more, some sessions only yielding like 1 good line.

Well it was the same with AC/DC on Black Ice and from what I hear Perry on TBF so I judge it all the same...

If they kept the best vocal parts of all studio sessions for songs, I'm fine w/ that no harm no foul.

Red13JoePa wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:

Saint John wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:I still think Generations is Augeri's finest studio hour.

Listened to it in full for the first time in a while yesterday and he is absolutely powerhouse vocally on FITH, TPIYH, Believe, KTYLM and OOHW.

Quit swimming in the waters around Three Mile Island.

No biz even remarking on it, you.

Look, Coln. I know you don't like the era, and that tour was the birth of The Gate, but you cannot tell me those above are not really strong vocals whatever quality you think the songs are.

Are they really strong vocals or were they pro-tooled and glued together in the studio from multiple upon multiple takes. I agree that the end result is very good but, considering the ensuing tour and the amount of vocal problems that Augeri had, I have no confidence that what we hear on "Generations" is really much more than studio wizardry.

Who knows?
EVERY studio album by EVERYbody should be held to the same strict scrutiny standard then.
Yes, I have heard that to get the lead vocal on Faith In The Heartland to sound as good as it did took 2 weeks or more, some sessions only yielding like 1 good line.

Well it was the same with AC/DC on Black Ice and from what I hear Perry on TBF so I judge it all the same...

If they kept the best vocal parts of all studio sessions for songs, I'm fine w/ that no harm no foul.

I'm still surprised they did an album during that time, with Steve's voice being the way it was.

Augeri's finest moment was the TS album, which I have yet to hear in its entirety. I want to hear the studio version of "Wild On the Run."

Red13JoePa wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:

Saint John wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:I still think Generations is Augeri's finest studio hour.

Listened to it in full for the first time in a while yesterday and he is absolutely powerhouse vocally on FITH, TPIYH, Believe, KTYLM and OOHW.

Quit swimming in the waters around Three Mile Island.

No biz even remarking on it, you.

Look, Coln. I know you don't like the era, and that tour was the birth of The Gate, but you cannot tell me those above are not really strong vocals whatever quality you think the songs are.

Are they really strong vocals or were they pro-tooled and glued together in the studio from multiple upon multiple takes. I agree that the end result is very good but, considering the ensuing tour and the amount of vocal problems that Augeri had, I have no confidence that what we hear on "Generations" is really much more than studio wizardry.

Who knows?
EVERY studio album by EVERYbody should be held to the same strict scrutiny standard then.
Yes, I have heard that to get the lead vocal on Faith In The Heartland to sound as good as it did took 2 weeks or more, some sessions only yielding like 1 good line.

Well it was the same with AC/DC on Black Ice and from what I hear Perry on TBF so I judge it all the same...

If they kept the best vocal parts of all studio sessions for songs, I'm fine w/ that no harm no foul.

Right, it's not like comping takes is some phenomenon exclusive to Augeri era Journey... it's been done for years.

Red13JoePa wrote:Who knows?
EVERY studio album by EVERYbody should be held to the same strict scrutiny standard then.
Yes, I have heard that to get the lead vocal on Faith In The Heartland to sound as good as it did took 2 weeks or more, some sessions only yielding like 1 good line.

Well it was the same with AC/DC on Black Ice and from what I hear Perry on TBF so I judge it all the same...

If they kept the best vocal parts of all studio sessions for songs, I'm fine w/ that no harm no foul.

Me, too. It doesn't really cross my mind much while listening to "Generations" but I'd also stay far away from saying it's Augeri's finest vocal performance.

Gideon wrote:Augeri's finest moment was the TS album, which I have yet to hear in its entirety. I want to hear the studio version of "Wild On the Run."

That's not even his strongest moment on the Tall Stories album...

World Inside You, Something To Believe In - much better, imho...

Is that album out of print?

AlteredDNA wrote:

Gideon wrote:Augeri's finest moment was the TS album, which I have yet to hear in its entirety. I want to hear the studio version of "Wild On the Run."

That's not even his strongest moment on the Tall Stories album...

World Inside You, Something To Believe In - much better, imho...

Is that album out of print?

I'm pretty sure it is, but you can always check out ebay.

Gideon wrote:Augeri's finest moment was the TS album, which I have yet to hear in its entirety. I want to hear the studio version of "Wild On the Run."

Tall Stories?
I'll hook you up.

The album, he sounds GOOD but kinda squeakily adolescent to me where's by Gens he'd found (ironically as it turns out) his niche in Journey and is aggressive confident and menacing.

conversationpc wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:Who knows?
EVERY studio album by EVERYbody should be held to the same strict scrutiny standard then.
Yes, I have heard that to get the lead vocal on Faith In The Heartland to sound as good as it

Me, too. It doesn't really cross my mind much while listening to "Generations" but I'd also stay far away from saying it's Augeri's finest vocal performance.

OK, then I revert back to my initial remarks of the thread, sticklerCT, that Generations was Augeri's "finest studio hour" which I said b/c I knew sooner or later I'd be hit with "well in light of tapegate, it must've taken multiple takes and prolly digital editng and protools..."
When liner notes begin recording number of takes, then I may downgrade my review of Augeri on Generations.