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on the proposed Ticketmaster/LiveNation merger:

http://www.hypebot.com/LNTM_journeyletter.pdf

It's in pdf format and I'm too lazy to type it out.

Uno_up wrote:on the proposed Ticketmaster/LiveNation merger:

http://www.hypebot.com/LNTM_journeyletter.pdf

It's in pdf format and I'm too lazy to type it out.

What a bunch of fucking garbage. LOL, Journey writing Congress to support the Merger. Yeah, ok. Translated= Azoff or his ruthless sidemen greaseball lawyers, trying to say to Congress this is a good idea.

A few weeks ago, a certain rock star slapped Azoff around like a little bitch and vowed that this merger was a bad deal for the concert goer; and he is 100% correct.

It amazes me how most of you can support the sleaze that emanates out of Irving Azoff. Any band that operates under his umbrella is guilty by association. I am particularly interested in the Eagles take on this, being that they are the most influential of all his acts. I hope to Hell that Landau and Bruce somehow put a stop to this merger..for all of our sake. I would like to think that the latter has more friends in the US Congress than does Azoff.

Yeah, this is definitely a bad thing. It would make them an even bigger monopoly-type corporation than they already are. It will mean 2 things: higher ticket prices and even crappier seat choices.

KenTheDude wrote:Yeah, this is definitely a bad thing. It would make them an even bigger monopoly-type corporation than they already are. It will mean 2 things: higher ticket prices and even crappier seat choices.

It won't really affect mid tier bands I wouldn't think. It is really going to affect major draws, who King Azoff knows is going to sell out. When Bruce went on sale, it showed "sold out" in 4 mins. Now I don't care how big a band is, no one is legitimately selling out any venue in 4 minutes. But don't fret rock fans! There is Tickets Now, a sister site of Ticketmaster who will charge you 180 for a 65 dollar seat! So you can still attend!

So, add Live Nation into the mix, and King Azoff will have Monopolistic control of the entire touring industry. What division of music is thriving? Not album sales. Concert revenue. Azoff, all over this like stevew2 on a Webster's dictionary.

Like I said, I pray to God himself, that someone stops this merger. Congress can really stand up for the consumer here. Either that or I hope Azoff gets run over by a grain thrasher.

They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Right. And, conspicuously, no Arnel.

The first concert I ever went to was in '83. Accept opening for Aldo Nova with BOC headlining. Great show but, the tickets were like $11.50 for upper level seats. We saw Journey (w/Soto - the "sit-in singer") down at Tinley Park a couple of years ago and we paid something $60 each for lawn seats. The covered, assigned seats started at $90 (obstructed view) and went up from there. I think the premium sections were in the $140 - $150 range through Live Nation.

If they want to "reach the fans" so bad, why don't they play some of the smaller venues that they claim to love so much? Reason - $$$, of course. God bless them for trying to capitalize and monopolize wherever they can. They can, and will just keep raising the prices until people stop showing up. On the other hand, you could never meet a more disingenuous group of fuckwads than the Journey crew. Fuck the artistic, starting-in-the-small-venue, love-the-fans, passionate-about-our-music bull-SHIT!!! Their days of writing new songs is over. It's all about cashing in on the old catalog for as long as they can. If Arnel pukes out after another year or two and Jon and Neal still want to go, they'll find another Perry-karaoke singer to blow up.

Rockindeano wrote:A few weeks ago, a certain rock star slapped Azoff around like a little bitch and vowed that this merger was a bad deal for the concert goer; and he is 100% correct.

And that certain rock star is right, the last thing live entertainment needs is a conglomerate monopoly.

Rhiannon wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:A few weeks ago, a certain rock star slapped Azoff around like a little bitch and vowed that this merger was a bad deal for the concert goer; and he is 100% correct.

And that certain rock star is right, the last thing live entertainment needs is a conglomerate monopoly.

Of course he is right. I wish he would take out a 100 million and buy Live Nation and stop this.

LazzMan wrote:

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Right. And, conspicuously, no Arnel.

Ummm...Hello, l He's not an American citizen, he has no legal standing and therefore wouldn't be on the petition to congress.

Chevypv wrote:

LazzMan wrote:

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Right. And, conspicuously, no Arnel.

Ummm...Hello, l He's not an American citizen, he has no legal standing and therefore wouldn't be on the petition to congress.

Actually, I think his signature is on the very bottom and got cut off in the process of making the PDF; there are some extra squiggles there.

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Well, hopefully The Honorable Hank Johnson, Jr. will get pissed off that they didn't capitalize his first name and he'll shitcan the whole thing.

Well fuck, that snake Azoff contributed 5 grand to Democrats in Congress.That sucks, as they may now fall for his act.

Rockindeano wrote:Well fuck, that snake Azoff contributed 5 grand to Democrats in Congress.That sucks, as they may now fall for his act.

I wouldn't fret too much. 5 grand won't even buy a roll of toilet paper for the Congressional men's room these days.

KenTheDude wrote:

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Well, hopefully The Honorable Hank Johnson, Jr. will get pissed off that they didn't capitalize his first name and he'll shitcan the whole thing.

Dang; maybe LC did write it afterall ...

Good eyes, Dude

DrFU wrote:there are some extra squiggles there.

I love that there are no discernable letters in Deen and Ross' signatures. My 7 year old brother signs more legibly.

DrFU wrote:

KenTheDude wrote:

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Well, hopefully The Honorable Hank Johnson, Jr. will get pissed off that they didn't capitalize his first name and he'll shitcan the whole thing.

Dang; maybe LC did write it afterall ...

Good eyes, Dude

Well we know one thing for sure. Stevew2 damn sure didn't write it.

DrFU wrote:

KenTheDude wrote:

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Well, hopefully The Honorable Hank Johnson, Jr. will get pissed off that they didn't capitalize his first name and he'll shitcan the whole thing.

Dang; maybe LC did write it afterall ...

Good eyes, Dude

There is a grammatical error about 3/4 ways down.

I wonder which bands do and don't support this horse shit.

Rockindeano wrote:

DrFU wrote:

KenTheDude wrote:

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Well, hopefully The Honorable Hank Johnson, Jr. will get pissed off that they didn't capitalize his first name and he'll shitcan the whole thing.

Dang; maybe LC did write it afterall ...

Good eyes, Dude

There is a grammatical error about 3/4 ways down.

I wonder which bands do and don't support this horse shit.

Is it the sentence: "Indeed, we believe the merger it will simply add more choices to the mix for artists and fans." I think the word "it" should not be in there.

KenTheDude wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

DrFU wrote:

KenTheDude wrote:

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Well, hopefully The Honorable Hank Johnson, Jr. will get pissed off that they didn't capitalize his first name and he'll shitcan the whole thing.

Dang; maybe LC did write it afterall ...

Good eyes, Dude

There is a grammatical error about 3/4 ways down.

I wonder which bands do and don't support this horse shit.

Is it the sentence: "Indeed, we believe the merger it will simply add more choices to the mix for artists and fans." I think the word "it" should not be in there.

yes

You would see another line, they are close together. AP can not sign that petition, he is not able to under law. I know that Journey moved mountains to get him here through a Visa, but as far as being a citizen yet, highly doubt it...although anything is possible, but no he did not sign that petition as far as I can see, just judging by the lines. I agree, it is getting rather expensive and this comes at a terrible time with the economy the way it is.

moangel58 wrote:You would see another line, they are close together. AP can not sign that petition, he is not able to under law. I know that Journey moved mountains to get him here through a Visa, but as far as being a citizen yet, highly doubt it...although anything is possible, but no he did not sign that petition as far as I can see, just judging by the lines. I agree, it is getting rather expensive and this comes at a terrible time with the economy the way it is.

What difference does his citizenship status make? It is a simple letter, not a petition. He didn't sign because he isn't a full member of the band. He's a hired gun whose job it is to sing and do what he's told. I'm sure he has no say in anything the band does from a management standpoint.

LazzMan wrote:I'm sure he has no say in anything the band does from a management standpoint.

That is categorically incorrect. As far as being a "full member" I have no idea. Raegardless, that's for him to worry about, not us.

Rockindeano wrote:

Uno_up wrote:on the proposed Ticketmaster/LiveNation merger:

http://www.hypebot.com/LNTM_journeyletter.pdf

It's in pdf format and I'm too lazy to type it out.

What a bunch of fucking garbage. LOL, Journey writing Congress to support the Merger. Yeah, ok. Translated= Azoff or his ruthless sidemen greaseball lawyers, trying to say to Congress this is a good idea.

A few weeks ago, a certain rock star slapped Azoff around like a little bitch and vowed that this merger was a bad deal for the concert goer; and he is 100% correct.

It amazes me how most of you can support the sleaze that emanates out of Irving Azoff. Any band that operates under his umbrella is guilty by association. I am particularly interested in the Eagles take on this, being that they are the most influential of all his acts. I hope to Hell that Landau and Bruce somehow put a stop to this merger..for all of our sake. I would like to think that the latter has more friends in the US Congress than does Azoff.

Yeah, I'm reading concerts are now selling out in SECONDS. Jeez, ya think the fans are getting any of those seats? NOTTACHANCE.

Saint John wrote:

LazzMan wrote:I'm sure he has no say in anything the band does from a management standpoint.

That is categorically incorrect. As far as being a "full member" I have no idea. Raegardless, that's for him to worry about, not us.

No worries. Just an observation around why he may not have been included in the letter. I do wonder though, how the cover is split between the members. It's probably like KISS does with Singer and Thayer. Gene and Paul get a percentage of the take and the majority of all merchandise sales while Singer and Thayer are straight salary guys. I'll guess that Journey is the same way in that Neal and Jon get more of an equal split while Ross and Deen to a lesser extent. Arnel likely just gets a salary plus dental.

LazzMan wrote: Arnel likely just gets a salary plus dental.

Ok...that made me laugh my ass off!!!

Well, just another reason on top of many, why this band doesn't deserve the spit and feces of its fans and ex-fans, now third world-wide. The letter, which is packed with lies upon lies, is bile-inducing. A Live-Nation monopoly will NOT help struggling new artists, as indicated. Instead, it will solidly prevent new artists from breaking into live performance markets currently under stranglehold by artists currently covered under favored management, like assoff's fucking enterprise.

A dispicable letter by some of the most dispicable cuntrags in the business....no doubt, drafted by Assoff's staff and shown to Fro, Fucka and the salaried so-called members of Journey. I'm betting they had to read *real* slow when they asked Fro to sign it. A 3rd grade level reading comprehension has it's disadvantages, you know.

Rockindeano wrote:

KenTheDude wrote:Yeah, this is definitely a bad thing. It would make them an even bigger monopoly-type corporation than they already are. It will mean 2 things: higher ticket prices and even crappier seat choices.

It won't really affect mid tier bands I wouldn't think. It is really going to affect major draws, who King Azoff knows is going to sell out. When Bruce went on sale, it showed "sold out" in 4 mins. Now I don't care how big a band is, no one is legitimately selling out any venue in 4 minutes. But don't fret rock fans! There is Tickets Now, a sister site of Ticketmaster who will charge you 180 for a 65 dollar seat! So you can still attend!

So, add Live Nation into the mix, and King Azoff will have Monopolistic control of the entire touring industry. What division of music is thriving? Not album sales. Concert revenue. Azoff, all over this like stevew2 on a Webster's dictionary.

Like I said, I pray to God himself, that someone stops this merger. Congress can really stand up for the consumer here. Either that or I hope Azoff gets run over by a grain thrasher.

I agree with you fuck Webster,I wrote my own

KenTheDude wrote:

DrFU wrote:

KenTheDude wrote:

DrFU wrote:They don't really give any solid reasons for supporting it.

At least everything is spelled correctly and it's grammatically correct.

Well, hopefully The Honorable Hank Johnson, Jr. will get pissed off that they didn't capitalize his first name and he'll shitcan the whole thing.

Dang; maybe LC did write it afterall ...

Good eyes, Dude

Well we know one thing for sure. Stevew2 damn sure didn't write it.

I wont write or sign anything like that you retard. Even Friga signs his name like a girl

Monopolies were dealt with in the Sherman anti trust act of 1890 !!! Yes- 1890. Call your representatives and tell them to think of the voters pocketbooks with these rip-off ticket prices. On the other hand Congress rakes in more to spend if this ticket giant makes huge profits. Your only alternative is to stop buying tickets and the musicians just stop doing concerts till the ticket brokers are bankrupted.

Letter to Congress????

Is Journey asking for a bailout as well?