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Jim Jidhed cover of Perry's "Lost Angels"

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:11 pm
by Ftloperry
Anyone heard this? It's really not bad at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkPdh8DMOE

Re: Jim Jidhed cover of Perry's "Lost Angels"

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:27 pm
by Since 78
Ftloperry wrote:Anyone heard this? It's really not bad at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkPdh8DMOE


You're right. Not bad. Thanks.

Re: Jim Jidhed cover of Perry's "Lost Angels"

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:38 pm
by Deb
Since 78 wrote:
Ftloperry wrote:Anyone heard this? It's really not bad at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkPdh8DMOE


You're right. Not bad. Thanks.


True, not bad at all.

I pulled up Perry's version to hear the difference. And listening to them back to back you can really tell what a truly unique quality Perry has to his voice. Mr. Perry was definitely at the front of the line when they were handing out the best vocal pipes. :) Love the demo, but would love to hear a cleaned up version of that. 8) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Nf6ElI048

Re: Jim Jidhed cover of Perry's "Lost Angels"

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:39 pm
by Deacon
This cover is alright, but it isn't Perry. :P

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:49 pm
by walkslikealady
Enjoyed it myself

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:50 pm
by Andrew
Check out the band Raine and their version also - better than the Jidhed version. Album's called "Peace".

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:58 pm
by Gideon
I didn't like it that well, to be honest.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:21 pm
by StoneCold
Jidhed's album "Full Circle" is pretty good. "Lost Angels" is one of the weaker tracks on it.

In comparison to Perry's its too slowed down otherwise it'd probably be really good. On the plus, the sound is cleaner, Perry's a little grittier.

Haven't heard the Raine version yet.

Here's a couple other tracks off Full Circle

Wish You Were Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGqHG8XlbhE

I'll Be Ready Then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1tuWA2NddM

Re: Jim Jidhed cover of Perry's "Lost Angels"

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:49 pm
by Babyblue
Ftloperry wrote:Anyone heard this? It's really not bad at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkPdh8DMOE


Thanks for sharing Ftloperry :wink: he is not bad.But no one dose it like Mr P :D :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:49 am
by Gideon
Yeah, that's my thought on it. This dude sings it far too cleanly.

Re: Jim Jidhed cover of Perry's "Lost Angels"

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:21 am
by SP Fan in Oregon
Deacon wrote:This cover is alright, but it isn't Perry. :P



+1

This is Perry..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoCrDdjFSo

Re: Jim Jidhed cover of Perry's "Lost Angels"

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:25 am
by Gideon
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
Deacon wrote:This cover is alright, but it isn't Perry. :P



+1

This is Perry..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoCrDdjFSo


Even with shitty quality, the vocal and song are still impressive. And I'm no Loon, but this was the wrong way to tackle that song.

Re: Jim Jidhed cover of Perry's "Lost Angels"

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:09 am
by Babyblue
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
Deacon wrote:This cover is alright, but it isn't Perry. :P



+1

This is Perry..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoCrDdjFSo


You got that right :wink: :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:17 pm
by LazzMan
Does anyone know why Perry never released this song instead of selling the rights? Or, whoever the writer was selling the rights? A little tweaking here and there and this would have gotten a lot of radio play..on both secular and Christian radio.

Perry is great but, given the context of the song and Christian overtones, this would have been a great solo song for guys like Michael Sweet or John Schlitt. Those dudes would have crushed this song on Christian radio.

Re: Jim Jidhed cover of Perry's "Lost Angels"

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:35 pm
by LazzMan
Ftloperry wrote:Anyone heard this? It's really not bad at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkPdh8DMOE


Just listened to this. It's hard to listen to Perry's voice singing this and then Jidhed. He sounds a LOT like Augeri in several parts. Not bad.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:10 am
by MrsPerry
I love Jim J. nothing comes to close to the vox he put down on the first Alien (1988) album. good stuff tho.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:45 am
by StoneCold
MrsPerry wrote:I love Jim J. nothing comes to close to the vox he put down on the first Alien (1988) album. good stuff tho.



Go Easy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqkE-ESqDBM

Brave New Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eJ0RH_JQ4

Tears Don't Put Out the Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQdo61mbINM

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:45 am
by The_Noble_Cause
Anyone know who wrote this track?
A comment under the Perry-sung version of 'Lost Angels' over on YouTube, (since deleted), claimed Perry wanted writing credit for this track for doing nothing but lending his vox to it.
As a result, it was never officially released.
Not to diminish the man, but the rumor of Perry demanding writing credit for doing nothing except singing is not new.
Can anyone shed some light?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:31 am
by StoneCold
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anyone know who wrote this track?
A comment under the Perry-sung version of 'Lost Angels' over on YouTube, (since deleted), claimed Perry wanted writing credit for this track for doing nothing but lending his vox to it.
As a result, it was never officially released.
Not to diminish the man, but the rumor of Perry demanding writing credit for doing nothing except singing is not new.
Can anyone shed some light?


I found this comment there:

TexasRokker wrote:

WRONG! He didn't write the song. He never owned any rights to it. He provided vocals on another person's composition. He wanted to release it, but claim co-writing when he did none of the writing. The person who wrote it refused. That's why you will never see it released.



I have the Jidhed cd (stored away in a box somewhere). If I can find it I'll see what it says for credits. I'm curious as to what happened as well. Explains a lot though, a great track not being released is uncommon.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:00 am
by The_Noble_Cause
StoneCold wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anyone know who wrote this track?
A comment under the Perry-sung version of 'Lost Angels' over on YouTube, (since deleted), claimed Perry wanted writing credit for this track for doing nothing but lending his vox to it.
As a result, it was never officially released.
Not to diminish the man, but the rumor of Perry demanding writing credit for doing nothing except singing is not new.
Can anyone shed some light?


I found this comment there:

TexasRokker wrote:

WRONG! He didn't write the song. He never owned any rights to it. He provided vocals on another person's composition. He wanted to release it, but claim co-writing when he did none of the writing. The person who wrote it refused. That's why you will never see it released.



I have the Jidhed cd (stored away in a box somewhere). If I can find it I'll see what it says for credits. I'm curious as to what happened as well. Explains a lot though, a great track not being released is uncommon.


Appreciate it. Thanks.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:34 pm
by Ftloperry
This was the product description for Full Circle on Amazon.com

Full Circle is a great introduction to the amazing talents of Jim Jidhed. The melodic rock songwriting on this album, and Jidhed's vocals are stellar, and to top things off - the whole thing sounds amazing. So credit where credit is due: Tommy Denander deserves a standing ovation alongside Jim for "Full Circle" as a whole.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:15 am
by WykkedSensation
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anyone know who wrote this track?
A comment under the Perry-sung version of 'Lost Angels' over on YouTube, (since deleted), claimed Perry wanted writing credit for this track for doing nothing but lending his vox to it.
As a result, it was never officially released.
Not to diminish the man, but the rumor of Perry demanding writing credit for doing nothing except singing is not new.
Can anyone shed some light?



Written by Cliff Magness, as was 'Let him go'...
I shall say no more.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:20 am
by StoneCold
WykkedSensation wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anyone know who wrote this track?
A comment under the Perry-sung version of 'Lost Angels' over on YouTube, (since deleted), claimed Perry wanted writing credit for this track for doing nothing but lending his vox to it.
As a result, it was never officially released.
Not to diminish the man, but the rumor of Perry demanding writing credit for doing nothing except singing is not new.
Can anyone shed some light?



Written by Cliff Magness, as was 'Let him go'...
I shall say no more.


Cliff Magness

Image

Born in Texas. Started his professional music carrier in 1980 with two solo singles titled "The Rest Of The Night" and "There's Nothing So Expensive As Woman Who's Free For The Night" under Scotti Bros., USA. Magness came across his fatal songwriting partner whose name is Glen Ballard in 1983 and they wrote the song titled "It's Gonna Be Special" for the motion picture TWO OF A KIND (1983) performed by Patti Austin. They started to produce many albums from 1984 such as "All I Need" of Jack Wagner. In 1991, The two talented songwriters released their own album with Jay Graydon as the super group Planet 3. After the success as a singer, Magness released his first solo album in 1994 by the request of Empire Records, Sweden.

Also wrote songs used in THE SLUGGER'S WIFE (1985), BODY SHOT (1993), TAKEN ALIVE (1995), LIFE HAPPENS (1996) and DOUBLECROSS ON COSTA'S ISLAND (1997). He produced the music for CATS DON'T DANCE (1997

Nominated for Achievement in Music - Original Song 1993: BEETHOVEN'S 2ND "The Day I Fall in Love" - Music & Lyric (w. Carole Bayer Sager & James Ingram)

http://theoscarsite.com/whoswho7/magness_c.htm

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:24 am
by StoneCold
Good stuff, reminds me of Bon Jovi or an edgier Richard Marx.

If We Can't Do It- Cliff Magness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjE2oaUA7Xk

It's Only Love - Cliff Magness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SaBto-B-G8

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:20 am
by MrsPerry
Cliff's CD 'solo' is prolly his best, Kalia is the most amazing tune.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:02 am
by StoneCold
MrsPerry wrote:Cliff's CD 'solo' is prolly his best, Kalia is the most amazing tune.


Trying to get the cd. Harder than heck to find it.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:59 am
by whirlwind
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anyone know who wrote this track?
A comment under the Perry-sung version of 'Lost Angels' over on YouTube, (since deleted), claimed Perry wanted writing credit for this track for doing nothing but lending his vox to it.
As a result, it was never officially released.
Not to diminish the man, but the rumor of Perry demanding writing credit for doing nothing except singing is not new.
Can anyone shed some light?
"



I, for one, feel that an exceptional vocalist, this being Perry, who can make a song a hit BECAUSE of his vocals, has a right to call the song his, along with the composer. Sinatra contributed to the writing of only seven of the many, many songs that he made famous with his vocals. " for doing nothing except singing," has got to be the understatement of all things Perry. :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:27 am
by youkeepmewaiting
whirlwind wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anyone know who wrote this track?
A comment under the Perry-sung version of 'Lost Angels' over on YouTube, (since deleted), claimed Perry wanted writing credit for this track for doing nothing but lending his vox to it.
As a result, it was never officially released.
Not to diminish the man, but the rumor of Perry demanding writing credit for doing nothing except singing is not new.
Can anyone shed some light?
"



I, for one, feel that an exceptional vocalist, this being Perry, who can make a song a hit BECAUSE of his vocals, has a right to call the song his, along with the composer. Sinatra contributed to the writing of only seven of the many, many songs that he made famous with his vocals. " for doing nothing except singing," has got to be the understatement of all things Perry. :roll:


I dont care how good a singer someone is, if they didnt write the track, then they didnt write the track.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:32 am
by whirlwind
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
whirlwind wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anyone know who wrote this track?
A comment under the Perry-sung version of 'Lost Angels' over on YouTube, (since deleted), claimed Perry wanted writing credit for this track for doing nothing but lending his vox to it.
As a result, it was never officially released.
Not to diminish the man, but the rumor of Perry demanding writing credit for doing nothing except singing is not new.
Can anyone shed some light?
"



I, for one, feel that an exceptional vocalist, this being Perry, who can make a song a hit BECAUSE of his vocals, has a right to call the song his, along with the composer. Sinatra contributed to the writing of only seven of the many, many songs that he made famous with his vocals. " for doing nothing except singing," has got to be the understatement of all things Perry. :roll:


I dont care how good a singer someone is, if they didnt write the track, then they didnt write the track.




Show me where Perry demanded writing credits for something he didn't write and I will agree with you but I refuse to accept hearsay.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:36 am
by youkeepmewaiting
whirlwind wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
whirlwind wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anyone know who wrote this track?
A comment under the Perry-sung version of 'Lost Angels' over on YouTube, (since deleted), claimed Perry wanted writing credit for this track for doing nothing but lending his vox to it.
As a result, it was never officially released.
Not to diminish the man, but the rumor of Perry demanding writing credit for doing nothing except singing is not new.
Can anyone shed some light?
"



I, for one, feel that an exceptional vocalist, this being Perry, who can make a song a hit BECAUSE of his vocals, has a right to call the song his, along with the composer. Sinatra contributed to the writing of only seven of the many, many songs that he made famous with his vocals. " for doing nothing except singing," has got to be the understatement of all things Perry. :roll:


I dont care how good a singer someone is, if they didnt write the track, then they didnt write the track.




Show me where Perry demanded writing credits for something he didn't write and I will agree with you but I refuse to accept hearsay.


Well I agree with you. But I'm just arguing against your point.