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Concert woes...

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:19 am
by Rick
I wonder how many times a show just barely gets off because of technical glitches, electrical problems, equipment failures and such. At the show in Dallas last summer, a tech worked on AP's wireless in-ear monitor device, off and on for 10 minutes or more.
I'll bet there are a bevy of great stories to be told about such issues.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:22 am
by Gideon
In Nashville, last year, Arnel dropped his microphone during the beginning of "Wildest Dream", emitting some hellacious feedback. But the crew was Johnny-on-the-fucking-spot and ran out there with a replacement.
The most interesting example I saw was the first live show in the USA (New Mexico?) for the Revelation tour; Neal's guitar went out during "Only the Young" [no solo] and "Send Her My Love." The pure piano version of SHML wasn't bad at all; Jonathan did a great job. But Neal looked pissed.
My mother told me that his guitar tech probably died that night of mysterious circumstances.


Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:28 am
by Rick
Gideon wrote:In Nashville, last year, Arnel dropped his microphone during the beginning of "Wildest Dream", emitting some hellacious feedback. But the crew was Johnny-on-the-fucking-spot and ran out there with a replacement.
The most interesting example I saw was the first live show in the USA (New Mexico?) for the Revelation tour; Neal's guitar went out during "Only the Young" [no solo] and "Send Her My Love." The pure piano version of SHML wasn't bad at all; Jonathan did a great job. But Neal looked pissed.
My mother told me that his guitar tech probably died that night of mysterious circumstances.

I always see Neal gesturing to the sound guy(?) To turn something up. I know he has difficulty hearing, so it's probably his in-ear monitors, or maybe his guitar.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:30 am
by Gideon
Rick wrote:Gideon wrote:In Nashville, last year, Arnel dropped his microphone during the beginning of "Wildest Dream", emitting some hellacious feedback. But the crew was Johnny-on-the-fucking-spot and ran out there with a replacement.
The most interesting example I saw was the first live show in the USA (New Mexico?) for the Revelation tour; Neal's guitar went out during "Only the Young" [no solo] and "Send Her My Love." The pure piano version of SHML wasn't bad at all; Jonathan did a great job. But Neal looked pissed.
My mother told me that his guitar tech probably died that night of mysterious circumstances.

I always see Neal gesturing to the sound guy(?) To turn something up. I know he has difficulty hearingmay, so it's probably his in-ear monitors, or maybe his guitar.
I think he just likes to play really loud. Journey's concerts tend to rock extremely loud, which surprised the shit out of my dad (veteran concert goer).

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:37 am
by Rick
Gideon wrote:Rick wrote:Gideon wrote:In Nashville, last year, Arnel dropped his microphone during the beginning of "Wildest Dream", emitting some hellacious feedback. But the crew was Johnny-on-the-fucking-spot and ran out there with a replacement.
The most interesting example I saw was the first live show in the USA (New Mexico?) for the Revelation tour; Neal's guitar went out during "Only the Young" [no solo] and "Send Her My Love." The pure piano version of SHML wasn't bad at all; Jonathan did a great job. But Neal looked pissed.
My mother told me that his guitar tech probably died that night of mysterious circumstances.

I always see Neal gesturing to the sound guy(?) To turn something up. I know he has difficulty hearingmay, so it's probably his in-ear monitors, or maybe his guitar.
I think he just likes to play really loud. Journey's concerts tend to rock extremely loud, which surprised the shit out of my dad (veteran concert goer).
Yep, that's why I like to get people who think Journey is too soft to go to a show. They'll rock your teeth out.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:39 am
by Gideon
Rick wrote:Gideon wrote:Rick wrote:Gideon wrote:In Nashville, last year, Arnel dropped his microphone during the beginning of "Wildest Dream", emitting some hellacious feedback. But the crew was Johnny-on-the-fucking-spot and ran out there with a replacement.
The most interesting example I saw was the first live show in the USA (New Mexico?) for the Revelation tour; Neal's guitar went out during "Only the Young" [no solo] and "Send Her My Love." The pure piano version of SHML wasn't bad at all; Jonathan did a great job. But Neal looked pissed.
My mother told me that his guitar tech probably died that night of mysterious circumstances.

I always see Neal gesturing to the sound guy(?) To turn something up. I know he has difficulty hearingmay, so it's probably his in-ear monitors, or maybe his guitar.
I think he just likes to play really loud. Journey's concerts tend to rock extremely loud, which surprised the shit out of my dad (veteran concert goer).
Yep, that's why I like to get people who think Journey is too soft to go to a show. They'll rock your teeth out.
I try to get my friends to go all the time and it's always "Nah, dude, Journey's for pussies!!1!" (Incidentally, I can't get a fucking one of them to agree that any of Journey's singers are good; but some of them do like Neal)

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:47 am
by Rick
Gideon wrote:Rick wrote:Gideon wrote:Rick wrote:Gideon wrote:In Nashville, last year, Arnel dropped his microphone during the beginning of "Wildest Dream", emitting some hellacious feedback. But the crew was Johnny-on-the-fucking-spot and ran out there with a replacement.
The most interesting example I saw was the first live show in the USA (New Mexico?) for the Revelation tour; Neal's guitar went out during "Only the Young" [no solo] and "Send Her My Love." The pure piano version of SHML wasn't bad at all; Jonathan did a great job. But Neal looked pissed.
My mother told me that his guitar tech probably died that night of mysterious circumstances.

I always see Neal gesturing to the sound guy(?) To turn something up. I know he has difficulty hearingmay, so it's probably his in-ear monitors, or maybe his guitar.
I think he just likes to play really loud. Journey's concerts tend to rock extremely loud, which surprised the shit out of my dad (veteran concert goer).
Yep, that's why I like to get people who think Journey is too soft to go to a show. They'll rock your teeth out.
I try to get my friends to go all the time and it's always "Nah, dude, Journey's for pussies!!1!" (
Incidentally, I can't get a fucking one of them to agree that any of Journey's singers are good; but some of them do like Neal)

They haven't had a bad one.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:37 am
by weatherman90
Rick wrote:Gideon wrote:Rick wrote:Gideon wrote:Rick wrote:Gideon wrote:In Nashville, last year, Arnel dropped his microphone during the beginning of "Wildest Dream", emitting some hellacious feedback. But the crew was Johnny-on-the-fucking-spot and ran out there with a replacement.
The most interesting example I saw was the first live show in the USA (New Mexico?) for the Revelation tour; Neal's guitar went out during "Only the Young" [no solo] and "Send Her My Love." The pure piano version of SHML wasn't bad at all; Jonathan did a great job. But Neal looked pissed.
My mother told me that his guitar tech probably died that night of mysterious circumstances.

I always see Neal gesturing to the sound guy(?) To turn something up. I know he has difficulty hearingmay, so it's probably his in-ear monitors, or maybe his guitar.
I think he just likes to play really loud. Journey's concerts tend to rock extremely loud, which surprised the shit out of my dad (veteran concert goer).
Yep, that's why I like to get people who think Journey is too soft to go to a show. They'll rock your teeth out.
I try to get my friends to go all the time and it's always "Nah, dude, Journey's for pussies!!1!" (
Incidentally, I can't get a fucking one of them to agree that any of Journey's singers are good; but some of them do like Neal)

They haven't had a bad one.
Sounds like a lost cause to me!

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:44 am
by Ehwmatt
I've seen Boston twice w/ Delp (RIP), and both times, the first 4 songs of the set sucked. They couldn't get any volume on the mix. Sounded like the guitars were unplugged and the mics were off. This happened twice at different venues so I chalk it up to Scholz's set-up being too complex and/or incompetent sound men.
Re: Concert woes...

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:45 am
by DrFU
Rick wrote:I wonder how many times a show just barely gets off because of technical glitches, electrical problems, equipment failures and such. At the show in Dallas last summer, a tech worked on AP's wireless in-ear monitor device, off and on for 10 minutes or more.
I'll bet there are a bevy of great stories to be told about such issues.
Opening night in Denver last year we got a song and a half with no lead guitar because Neal's wireless rig died. He went right on playing, but you couldn't hear anything ... heard lots of Jon's piano during those songs ...

I was front row, and I think Neal said, "fuck" 47 times while the techs rewired him into a setup with a cord.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:46 am
by weatherman90
Ehwmatt wrote:I've seen Boston twice w/ Delp (RIP), and both times, the first 4 songs of the set sucked. They couldn't get any volume on the mix. Sounded like the guitars were unplugged and the mics were off. This happened twice at different venues so I chalk it up to Scholz's set-up being too complex and/or incompetent sound men.
Do you remember if it was toward the beginning of the tour?
I was at the second show on the '08 Boston tour, and then I went to another show in the middle of the tour. The first one was a bit glitchy but at that second show the mix was spot on.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:49 am
by Ehwmatt
weatherman90 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:I've seen Boston twice w/ Delp (RIP), and both times, the first 4 songs of the set sucked. They couldn't get any volume on the mix. Sounded like the guitars were unplugged and the mics were off. This happened twice at different venues so I chalk it up to Scholz's set-up being too complex and/or incompetent sound men.
Do you remember if it was toward the beginning of the tour?
I was at the second show on the '08 Boston tour, and then I went to another show in the middle of the tour. The first one was a bit glitchy but at that second show the mix was spot on.
Hm, are you talking about post-Delp? I think the years here were 04 and 05 maybe?? Or maybe 03/04. Definitely not 05/06...
I think both dates were in August, so, presumably at least midway through the tour. I honestly think there's just too much going on that stage to get it right until they're several songs in. I mean what, 4-5 guitars alone? Scholz, Pihl, Cosmos, and Brad on rhythm for many songs... damn.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:51 am
by StevePerryHair
At the ARF charity benefit concert in CA a couple of years ago, featuring Neal, JSS, Cain, and "friends", JC's keyboard would not play through the terrible sound system there, and they did DSB without the keyboard intro and without keyboard through most of the song. The funniest thing was when he was playing with the wires and trying to fix it, JSS and Neal were laughing and making fun the whole time. I remember another time too, where JC's harmonica was not playing through the sound sytem and he was blowing away, and we couldn't hear a damn thing! Hmmm, I see a pattern here.....

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:52 am
by weatherman90
Ehwmatt wrote:weatherman90 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:I've seen Boston twice w/ Delp (RIP), and both times, the first 4 songs of the set sucked. They couldn't get any volume on the mix. Sounded like the guitars were unplugged and the mics were off. This happened twice at different venues so I chalk it up to Scholz's set-up being too complex and/or incompetent sound men.
Do you remember if it was toward the beginning of the tour?
I was at the second show on the '08 Boston tour, and then I went to another show in the middle of the tour. The first one was a bit glitchy but at that second show the mix was spot on.
Hm, are you talking about post-Delp? I think the years here were 04 and 05 maybe?? Or maybe 03/04. Definitely not 05/06...
I think both dates were in August, so, presumably at least midway through the tour. I honestly think there's just too much going on that stage to get it right until they're several songs in. I mean what, 4-5 guitars alone? Scholz, Pihl, Cosmos, and Brad on rhythm for many songs... damn.
Yeah, I never saw them with Brad. It just seems like Boston in general takes quite a few shows on every tour to get back into the groove since they take longer breaks.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:55 am
by Ehwmatt
weatherman90 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:weatherman90 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:I've seen Boston twice w/ Delp (RIP), and both times, the first 4 songs of the set sucked. They couldn't get any volume on the mix. Sounded like the guitars were unplugged and the mics were off. This happened twice at different venues so I chalk it up to Scholz's set-up being too complex and/or incompetent sound men.
Do you remember if it was toward the beginning of the tour?
I was at the second show on the '08 Boston tour, and then I went to another show in the middle of the tour. The first one was a bit glitchy but at that second show the mix was spot on.
Hm, are you talking about post-Delp? I think the years here were 04 and 05 maybe?? Or maybe 03/04. Definitely not 05/06...
I think both dates were in August, so, presumably at least midway through the tour. I honestly think there's just too much going on that stage to get it right until they're several songs in. I mean what, 4-5 guitars alone? Scholz, Pihl, Cosmos, and Brad on rhythm for many songs... damn.
Yeah, I never saw them with Brad. It just seems like Boston in general takes quite a few shows on every tour to get back into the groove since they take longer breaks.
Maybe so, but it sucked because I missed out on Feelin Satisfied, Rock N Roll Band, Peace of Mind, and Don't Look Back both times. Couldn't hear them at all, especially the guitar leads. BTW, great Web site, Matt.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:57 am
by (Crazy)Dulce Lady
Mick's keyboard was not on the right setting for the encore last night, I Want To Know What Love Is. Kelly Hansen said wait. stop. something doesn't sound right and the tech guy came and reset the syth correctly.
I don't think I have ever heard anyone actually stop and start over.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:00 am
by weatherman90
Ehwmatt wrote:weatherman90 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:weatherman90 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:I've seen Boston twice w/ Delp (RIP), and both times, the first 4 songs of the set sucked. They couldn't get any volume on the mix. Sounded like the guitars were unplugged and the mics were off. This happened twice at different venues so I chalk it up to Scholz's set-up being too complex and/or incompetent sound men.
Do you remember if it was toward the beginning of the tour?
I was at the second show on the '08 Boston tour, and then I went to another show in the middle of the tour. The first one was a bit glitchy but at that second show the mix was spot on.
Hm, are you talking about post-Delp? I think the years here were 04 and 05 maybe?? Or maybe 03/04. Definitely not 05/06...
I think both dates were in August, so, presumably at least midway through the tour. I honestly think there's just too much going on that stage to get it right until they're several songs in. I mean what, 4-5 guitars alone? Scholz, Pihl, Cosmos, and Brad on rhythm for many songs... damn.
Yeah, I never saw them with Brad. It just seems like Boston in general takes quite a few shows on every tour to get back into the groove since they take longer breaks.
Maybe so, but it sucked because I missed out on Feelin Satisfied, Rock N Roll Band, Peace of Mind, and Don't Look Back both times. Couldn't hear them at all, especially the guitar leads. BTW, great Web site, Matt.
Thanks! I'm really excited about it...hoping to get some interviews going soon.

Posted:
Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:49 pm
by FishinMagician
can't forget LTS encore in Chile, Cains keyboard not working and he was mad looking jamming on it, neither were any of the mics besides arnels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Ft2Xv0V_k
then on Self Defense Neals guitar dies in the beggining of the song then comes back to life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkyovYdr48k
or the string break in lights ( cant find the video)
its good to know rockstars are people too