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OT: Since You Been Gone - Head East vs. Rainbow

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:59 pm
by Voyager
Back in 1978, a band called Head East released a song called "Since You Been Gone". It didn't get as much exposure as it should have since they weren't very well known except in the Midwest USA. A year later in 1979, a band called Rainbow with a much larger fanbase re-recorded the song, and their version became more popular due to the broader audience that it reached. The radio stations were even playing both versions for a while after the Rainbow release.

I never could figure out why Rainbow ripped the song off from Head East, because I liked the Head East version much better and I saw no reason to redo it (especially with John Schlitt singing... that's as blasphemous as redoing a Steve Perry hit and giving the cloned version more airplay than the original).

What about you - which version do you like better? Please make your decision based on the audio only, because the Rainbow version actually had a video made for it.

Head East version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJKZL1EKpdY

Rainbow version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYtdW5bD-7Q

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:06 pm
by Maui Tom
never been any reason to NOT like the Head East version better...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:07 pm
by Since 78
Gotta go with Rainbow, the Head East version was kind of annoying with whatever that little keyboard zippy sound was.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:09 pm
by Blueskies
They ripped it off because it's a cool song. I prefer Head East's a bit more. :)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:40 pm
by Carla777
Since 78 wrote:Gotta go with Rainbow, the Head East version was kind of annoying with whatever that little keyboard zippy sound was.


agree here...RAINBOW!! all the way :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:00 pm
by StoneCold
Ha, ha, gotta vote against my namesake! Prefer Schlitt over Bonnett.

Graham's always a bit wound up.

Cool poll, here's another good Head East.

Never Been Any Reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyoknbvXlwM

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:03 pm
by StoneCold
Great Rainbow track here.

I Surrender
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knyH0JDwlYg

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:05 pm
by Vladan
I really only liked Rainbow when Joe Lynn Turner fronted them, amazing vocalist JLT.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:06 pm
by T-Bone
Head East is playing at my main watering hole in the next few weeks... :lol: The lead singer was in Petra for a while if I remember right

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:26 pm
by sniper16
i believe its a russ ballard song, so rainbow didnt rip it off
just recorded a song push to them
probably never even knew there was another version.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:53 pm
by Voyager
T-Bone wrote:Head East is playing at my main watering hole in the next few weeks... :lol: The lead singer was in Petra for a while if I remember right


Actually, the lead singer (John Schlitt) left Head East to join Petra back in the 80's. I'm not sure who is singing for them now.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:56 pm
by Voyager
sniper16 wrote:i believe its a russ ballard song, so rainbow didnt rip it off
just recorded a song push to them
probably never even knew there was another version.


They may not have ripped it off, but don't you think it was weird for them to re-record a song that was released a year earlier and already on the charts and getting airplay? Can you think of any other instance where that has happened before or after this one? I can't.

How did the guy get away with selling the song to two different artists? What a crook!

8)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:56 pm
by 80s man
sniper16 wrote:i believe its a russ ballard song, so rainbow didnt rip it off
just recorded a song push to them
probably never even knew there was another version.


Correct - I Surrender is also a Russ Ballard song - Blackmore took them as he could see the commercial possibilities, as he wanted to take Rainbow away from the heavier Dio era to a more mainstream sound......

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:59 pm
by Voyager
80s man wrote:
sniper16 wrote:i believe its a russ ballard song, so rainbow didnt rip it off
just recorded a song push to them
probably never even knew there was another version.


Correct - I Surrender is also a Russ Ballard song - Blackmore took them as he could see the commercial possibilities, as he wanted to take Rainbow away from the heavier Dio era to a more mainstream sound......
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So, if Tool wants to get a more contemporary sound - should they steal a Coldplay hit from last year and re-record it to become more mainstream?

:lol:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:16 am
by MrsPerry
Rainbow. Hands down.

Re: OT: Since You Been Gone - Head East vs. Rainbow

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:45 am
by lights1961
Voyager wrote:Back in 1978, a band called Head East released a song called "Since You Been Gone". It didn't get as much exposure as it should have since they weren't very well known except in the Midwest USA. A year later in 1979, a band called Rainbow with a much larger fanbase re-recorded the song, and their version became more popular due to the broader audience that it reached. The radio stations were even playing both versions for a while after the Rainbow release.

I never could figure out why Rainbow ripped the song off from Head East, because I liked the Head East version much better and I saw no reason to redo it (especially with John Schlitt singing... that's as blasphemous as redoing a Steve Perry hit and giving the cloned version more airplay than the original).

What about you - which version do you like better? Please make your decision based on the audio only, because the Rainbow version actually had a video made for it.

Head East version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJKZL1EKpdY

Rainbow version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYtdW5bD-7Q

8)


GREAT SONG LIVE... yes head east much better...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:35 am
by DrFU
Maui Tom wrote:never been any reason to NOT like the Head East version better...


:lol:

I played NBAR 20 times a day during a particular stretch in college ... my roomies threatened to break the LP over my head if I didn't stop ...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:02 am
by T-Bone
Voyager wrote:
T-Bone wrote:Head East is playing at my main watering hole in the next few weeks... :lol: The lead singer was in Petra for a while if I remember right


Actually, the lead singer (John Schlitt) left Head East to join Petra back in the 80's. I'm not sure who is singing for them now.

8)



Ahhh.... so he's not back in Head East then... Oh well. I prefer Rainbow's version of Since You've Been Gone.

Re: OT: Since You Been Gone - Head East vs. Rainbow

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:14 am
by sadie65
lights1961 wrote:
Voyager wrote:Back in 1978, a band called Head East released a song called "Since You Been Gone". It didn't get as much exposure as it should have since they weren't very well known except in the Midwest USA. A year later in 1979, a band called Rainbow with a much larger fanbase re-recorded the song, and their version became more popular due to the broader audience that it reached. The radio stations were even playing both versions for a while after the Rainbow release.

I never could figure out why Rainbow ripped the song off from Head East, because I liked the Head East version much better and I saw no reason to redo it (especially with John Schlitt singing... that's as blasphemous as redoing a Steve Perry hit and giving the cloned version more airplay than the original).

What about you - which version do you like better? Please make your decision based on the audio only, because the Rainbow version actually had a video made for it.

Head East version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJKZL1EKpdY

Rainbow version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYtdW5bD-7Q

8)


GREAT SONG LIVE... yes head east much better...


Oh ick. Much prefer the Rainbow version. Sorry, but Head East does nothing for me with their version, even if they are the original.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:10 am
by Carla777
Vladan wrote:I really only liked Rainbow when Joe Lynn Turner fronted them, amazing vocalist JLT.


I agree with you JLT is amazing and underrated ...i understand Bonnet...but RJ Dio? wonderful albums during the Dio years!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:38 am
by SF-Dano
Voyager wrote:
sniper16 wrote:i believe its a russ ballard song, so rainbow didnt rip it off
just recorded a song push to them
probably never even knew there was another version.


They may not have ripped it off, but don't you think it was weird for them to re-record a song that was released a year earlier and already on the charts and getting airplay? Can you think of any other instance where that has happened before or after this one? I can't.

How did the guy get away with selling the song to two different artists? What a crook!

8)


While I don't believe it charted high on the charts, Greg Rolie did the song "I want to go back" on his first solo release about a year before the same song became a huge hit for Eddie Money.

Funny thing is I saw Greg perform this tune at a new years eve show at the Cow Palace in SF. He was one of the openers for Night Ranger who was headling the evening. One of the other opening acts was Eddie Money.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:42 am
by KDOUBLEU
Head East hands down John Schlitt can sing. Sounds great in Petra as well.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:17 am
by lights1961
by the way another song had this thing with two groups.. can you name the song and the artists??? One made a hit of it and the ohter band is still pissed off about it..

R

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:29 am
by T-Bone
lights1961 wrote:by the way another song had this thing with two groups.. can you name the song and the artists??? One made a hit of it and the ohter band is still pissed off about it..

R


This could be a very long list....

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:30 am
by lights1961
T-Bone wrote:
lights1961 wrote:by the way another song had this thing with two groups.. can you name the song and the artists??? One made a hit of it and the ohter band is still pissed off about it..

R


This could be a very long list....


but one song in particular...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:40 am
by S2M
lights1961 wrote:by the way another song had this thing with two groups.. can you name the song and the artists??? One made a hit of it and the ohter band is still pissed off about it..

R



Blinded by the Light.....Bruce wrote it, recorded it - and it went nowhere. Manfred Mann got the hit, Charted at #1 on the Hot 100. To this day it is Bruce's ONLY #1 song as a songwriter. I'm sure he's pissed.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:28 am
by lights1961
StocktontoMalone wrote:
lights1961 wrote:by the way another song had this thing with two groups.. can you name the song and the artists??? One made a hit of it and the ohter band is still pissed off about it..

R



Blinded by the Light.....Bruce wrote it, recorded it - and it went nowhere. Manfred Mann got the hit, Charted at #1 on the Hot 100. To this day it is Bruce's ONLY #1 song as a songwriter. I'm sure he's pissed.


wrong...

earlier time...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:34 am
by RisingForce73
lights1961 wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
lights1961 wrote:by the way another song had this thing with two groups.. can you name the song and the artists??? One made a hit of it and the ohter band is still pissed off about it..

R



Blinded by the Light.....Bruce wrote it, recorded it - and it went nowhere. Manfred Mann got the hit, Charted at #1 on the Hot 100. To this day it is Bruce's ONLY #1 song as a songwriter. I'm sure he's pissed.


wrong...

earlier time...


Black Magic Woman? Fleetwood Mac (original) and Santana.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:34 am
by KDOUBLEU
lights1961 wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
lights1961 wrote:by the way another song had this thing with two groups.. can you name the song and the artists??? One made a hit of it and the ohter band is still pissed off about it..

R



Blinded by the Light.....Bruce wrote it, recorded it - and it went nowhere. Manfred Mann got the hit, Charted at #1 on the Hot 100. To this day it is Bruce's ONLY #1 song as a songwriter. I'm sure he's pissed.


wrong...

earlier time...
How about you tell us?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:40 am
by RossValoryRocks
I like this version better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl4qdHkGQbo

:lol: :wink: