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Cant help but wonder if there has been big money offers put on the table in the past 5 years or so regarding the Escape line up getting back together.Neal has never made mention of it but considering every band that can be persuaded has reformed...The Police...Eagles...Sex Pistols which are some of the ones i never thought would...i mean who is left but Journey.Which just leads to me to think there is a reason it wont happen and i think we know why

bionic wrote:Cant help but wonder if there has been big money offers put on the table in the past 5 years or so regarding the Escape line up getting back together.Neal has never made mention of it but considering every band that can be persuaded has reformed...The Police...Eagles...Sex Pistols which are some of the ones i never thought would...i mean who is left but Journey.Which just leads to me to think there is a reason it wont happen and i think we know why

Lack of interest?

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I'm still waiting for ABBA.

Gunbot wrote:I'm still waiting for ABBA.

They were offered an insane amount of money to reunite for one show (I think) and turned it down.

NealIsGod wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I'm still waiting for ABBA.

They were offered an insane amount of money to reunite for one show (I think) and turned it down.

They were never big on touring, I think one of them has a phobia for flying. They've sold over 300 million albums, I read where each of the guys made more than 100 million dollars just on song writing royalties alone. Money isn't an issue I guess.

The licensing fro The Mamma Mia musical and film must have just been another layer of icing on the cake.

I have wondered the same thing. Its just weird that Journey is one of the best selling American rock acts, but to my knowledge have still not had a huge offer to reform and do a concert series. I wonder if the fact that because they have been out there touring behind different singers for so long, that the interest just isnt there anymore. Bands like The Police and The Eagles were broken up and had not toured for years and I think the public really missed those bands. I think thats why there was such a huge interest and big deal over these bands, absence makes you want to see a band even more.

I do know that according to Neil Journey was offered some big money back in 96 to tour 25 dates in support of their Trial by Fire album, but Steve couldnt do it because of his hip problem. I often wonder what the exact number of that big money was.

They would have to break up to reform and have a concert. Who can walk up and offer them money when they already have a singer?

If they hadn't announced JSS as there singer after the 2006 Tour, the window might have been open then.

Gunbot wrote:They would have to break up to reform and have a concert. Who can walk up and offer them money when they already have a singer?

If they hadn't announced JSS as there singer after the 2006 Tour, the window might have been open then.

Especially now that they are getting alot of attention with Arnel and all this popularity. I think the chance for a reunion tour is out the window too.

There really isn't any incentive to reform. SP is enjoying life out of the spotlight, Neal and the boys are already selling 10,000-20,000 a show and I'm sure Smitty would prefer to concentrate on Vital Information. Usually when a band reforms as stated above they haven't been touring in awhile or another form of the band has been playing really small venues and it's an offer they can't refuse, after all, money talks.

Except for accepting a one-show deal, I doubt Perry's voice can handle a Journey tour. In fact, I'm sure not. He would never do it. Except for the Loons or Journey fanatics too many casual fans would be noticing the difference in his voice. He couldn't take that. Perry left on a high note with Journey voicewise and would prefer to leave it that way..

Well, I think Journey's ticket to the R&R HOF hinges on some kind of Get together with Perry. That place is all about money and they'll want an Ironclad guarantee that the holy trio will be there if they give an award to the group. Van Halen is the only Rock group that you could argue actually got in because of their replacement singer more so than their original frontman.

Jana wrote:Except for accepting a one-show deal, I doubt Perry's voice can handle a Journey tour. In fact, I'm sure not. He would never do it. Except for the Loons or Journey fanatics too many casual fans would be noticing the difference in his voice. He couldn't take that. Perry left on a high note with Journey voicewise and would prefer to leave it that way..

I dont think that quite true. But I see your point nevertheless

Gunbot wrote:Well, I think Journey's ticket to the R&R HOF hinges on some kind of Get together with Perry. That place is all about money and they'll want an Ironclad guarantee that the holy trio will be there if they give an award to the group. Van Halen is the only Rock group that you could argue actually got in because of their replacement singer more so than their original frontman.

Well from your lips to gods ears....it would be something to witness

I doubt they would play together again for any amount of money, but I'd like to be there to hear one of the sides tell whomever to fuck off if the request was made.

Gunbot wrote:Well, I think Journey's ticket to the R&R HOF hinges on some kind of Get together with Perry. That place is all about money and they'll want an Ironclad guarantee that the holy trio will be there if they give an award to the group. Van Halen is the only Rock group that you could argue actually got in because of their replacement singer more so than their original frontman.

I think you've hit the nail on the head, so to speak. HOF is all about money and ratings. Throw in a little controversary and you've probably got a sure thing and I'd bet on this year.

Jana wrote:Except for accepting a one-show deal, I doubt Perry's voice can handle a Journey tour. In fact, I'm sure not. He would never do it. Except for the Loons or Journey fanatics too many casual fans would be noticing the difference in his voice. He couldn't take that. Perry left on a high note with Journey voicewise and would prefer to leave it that way..

I agree, he isn't going to sound like he did in the late 70s/early 80s (which is just fine by me, I prefer his later vocals anyway) but to try to sing that early material night after night would I'm sure trash what vocals he does have. And fans of the early material would criticize his vocals for not being the crystal clear highs they remember. No touring, but would love to see one show (or 2) filmed for dvd too.

jrny84 wrote:I have wondered the same thing. Its just weird that Journey is one of the best selling American rock acts, but to my knowledge have still not had a huge offer to reform and do a concert series. I wonder if the fact that because they have been out there touring behind different singers for so long, that the interest just isnt there anymore. Bands like The Police and The Eagles were broken up and had not toured for years and I think the public really missed those bands. I think thats why there was such a huge interest and big deal over these bands, absence makes you want to see a band even more.

Yep, right on.

Yes. They ARE reuniting for backyard barbecue at MadSplash's house. Aparently, MS makes great burgers and the members of Journey and SP couldn't turn it down.
Will we get invites?

WE'LL SEE

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

Jana wrote:Except for accepting a one-show deal, I doubt Perry's voice can handle a Journey tour. In fact, I'm sure not. He would never do it. Except for the Loons or Journey fanatics too many casual fans would be noticing the difference in his voice. He couldn't take that. Perry left on a high note with Journey voicewise and would prefer to leave it that way..

I dont think that quite true. But I see your point nevertheless

If they were smart, they'd do ONE show, dvd it and call it a day.

ebake02 wrote:There really isn't any incentive to reform. SP is enjoying life out of the spotlight, Neal and the boys are already selling 10,000-20,000 a show and I'm sure Smitty would prefer to concentrate on Vital Information. Usually when a band reforms as stated above they haven't been touring in awhile or another form of the band has been playing really small venues and it's an offer they can't refuse, after all, money talks.

This makes lots of sense. I don't see it happening, and as stated above, I think we know "why."

well, if Perry's 'enjoying life outta the spotlight' why is he supposedly recording again?

brywool wrote:Yes. They ARE reuniting for backyard barbecue at MadSplash's house. Aparently, MS makes great burgers and the members of Journey and SP couldn't turn it down.
Will we get invites?

WE'LL SEE

Best to let sleeping dogs lie, my friend.

steveo777 wrote:I doubt they would play together again for any amount of money, but I'd like to be there to hear one of the sides tell whomever to fuck off if the request was made.

I don't think that will happen and I''ll tell you why. DVD's. To use someone's song in a video format is not the same thing as doing an audio cover. You have to have the permission of all the songwriters. Like Jeremey said, Perry had to be consulted on the DVD packed in with Revelation. The Manila DVD is coming up. Imagine that DVD if all the Songs Perry co-wrote were edited out. Could Journey fight it? Sure but the delay on getting the product released could be a long time.
Perry and the band are always going to be connected whether they like it or not.

brywool wrote:well, if Perry's 'enjoying life outta the spotlight' why is he supposedly recording again?

Does anybody have actual proof that he is recording?

Let's say it's true; why would he do a one time Journey performance, then go off on his own again? I would think he would do ONE Journey show, then call it a day, like he has for the past 13 years. Perry is always "thinking about it" yet nothing that could be considered fruit has ever come out of his thoughts.

So I ask again, is there any actual proof that he's recording?

yak wrote:

brywool wrote:well, if Perry's 'enjoying life outta the spotlight' why is he supposedly recording again?

Does anybody have actual proof that he is recording?

Let's say it's true; why would he do a one time Journey performance, then go off on his own again? I would think he would do ONE Journey show, then call it a day, like he has for the past 13 years. Perry is always "thinking about it" yet nothing that could be considered fruit has ever come out of his thoughts.

So I ask again, is there any actual proof that he's recording?

Well, Russ Miller told me via e mail that he did record with him and that he sounded great. So that's proof, but what he's gonna do with it is the question, I guess.

Jana wrote:Except for accepting a one-show deal, I doubt Perry's voice can handle a Journey tour. In fact, I'm sure not. He would never do it. Except for the Loons or Journey fanatics too many casual fans would be noticing the difference in his voice. He couldn't take that. Perry left on a high note with Journey voicewise and would prefer to leave it that way..

I do agree Perry left on a high note both concerning his voice and dealing with the band's popularity. I know that Steve doesnt have his voice from 78-83, but who does at 60 years old? When he was in Journey they toured to death for like 10 straight years singing ballads and love songs that did a toll on his voice. But I think he still does have his voice that were used to from the ROR tour and FTLOSM, and thats good enough for me. Seeing that Steve Perry hasnt performed with Journey since 1987, I think if there ever were a reunion, most people would be more concerned about just being able to see him with Journey, than concentrating on his voice. There will always be those people that will pick at anything and put down his voice, but in the long run its the reunion that would get remembered.

As big as Journey was and would be if Perry rejoined, all they would have to do is hit the major cities like maybe 20-25 dates. Perry's voice should be able to handle something like that. Unfortunetly this far in the game, there is about a 1 in 10 million chance the band will ever get back with Perry...and thats being optimistic

brywool wrote:well, if Perry's 'enjoying life outta the spotlight' why is he supposedly recording again?

People interpret Perry in the studio means he's recording something to release... Just because he's in the recording studio doesn't mean its he's doing it to put it out for the public to hear.... He can afford the best of anything, so it makes sense that he'd record at the best studios, and use the best engineers and musicians he can.

For many musicians, the rigors of the post recording process (promotion, touring, etc) are simply something that is suffered through, because it simply doesn't have anything to do with creating music... The 1st couple go 'round its gotta be a blast... but once it gets old its just that... old. At some point in time there's no need to pay lip service to the fans by telling them you "love all of it". At the same time, there's no need to say you can do without it either, cause that's not what your diehard fans want to hear.. so you say much less, or nothing.. and go "have a life".

But the process of recording, creating new music, is what many many musicians LOVE, because its the equivalent of a "painters pallet" for a musician. I imagine for Perry, this is where his true creative love is... and why he still does it.

Don't forget Perry was a studio rat before he joined Journey.

slucero wrote:

brywool wrote:well, if Perry's 'enjoying life outta the spotlight' why is he supposedly recording again?

People interpret Perry in the studio means he's recording something to release... Just because he's in the recording studio doesn't mean its he's doing it to put it out for the public to hear.... He can afford the best of anything, so it makes sense that he'd record at the best studios, and use the best engineers and musicians he can.

For many musicians, the rigors of the post recording process (promotion, touring, etc) are simply something that is suffered through, because it simply doesn't have anything to do with creating music... But the process of recording, creating new music, is what many many musicians LOVE, because its the equivalent of a "painters pallat" for a musician.

Don't forget Perry was a studio rat before he joined Journey.

Good points. Perry should just stick a studio in his house. Crap, if I have one he can have one a little better than mine...

brywool wrote:

slucero wrote:

brywool wrote:well, if Perry's 'enjoying life outta the spotlight' why is he supposedly recording again?

People interpret Perry in the studio means he's recording something to release... Just because he's in the recording studio doesn't mean its he's doing it to put it out for the public to hear.... He can afford the best of anything, so it makes sense that he'd record at the best studios, and use the best engineers and musicians he can.

For many musicians, the rigors of the post recording process (promotion, touring, etc) are simply something that is suffered through, because it simply doesn't have anything to do with creating music... But the process of recording, creating new music, is what many many musicians LOVE, because its the equivalent of a "painters pallat" for a musician.

Don't forget Perry was a studio rat before he joined Journey.

Good points. Perry should just stick a studio in his house. Crap, if I have one he can have one a little better than mine...

George Michael talked about how Sony freaking kills you when you they get you on these promotion runs and how it made him want to quite, as he ended up on the road for something like 18 months straight and couldn't even take a week off just to take a breather.

I'm willing to bet Perry has studios in all his houses... it still doesn't replace the collaborative process one gets with great engineers and musicians.