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OT: Red Bull Cola Contains Cocaine

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:01 pm
by Voyager
If you want some, go buy it now before it gets banned!

Red Bull's New Cola: A Kick from Cocaine?
Time.com - Updated 5-25-09

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About a year ago, the makers of Red Bull, the famous caffeine-loaded energy drink, decided to come out with a soda, unsurprisingly named Red Bull Cola. The shared name implied the same big kick. But could the cola's boost — supposedly "100% natural" — come from something else? Officials in Germany worry that they've found the answer — cocaine. And now they have prohibited the soda's sale in six states across the country and may recommend a nation-wide ban.

"The [Health Institute in the state of North Rhine Westphalia] examined Red Bull Cola in an elaborate chemical process and found traces of cocaine," Bernhard Kuehnle, head of the food safety department at Germany's federal ministry for consumer protection, told the German press on Sunday. According to this analysis, the 0.13 micrograms of cocaine per can of the drink does not pose a serious health threat — you'd have to drink 12,000 liters of Red Bull Cola for negative affects to be felt — but it was enough to cause concern. Kuehnle's agency is due to give its final verdict on Wednesday when experts publish their report.

Red Bull has always been upfront about the recipe for its new cola. Its website boasts colorful pictures of coca, cardamom and Kola nuts, along with other key "natural" ingredients. The company insists, however, that coca leaves are used as a flavoring agent only after removing the illegal cocaine alkaloid. "De-cocainized extract of coca leaf is used worldwide in foods as a natural flavoring," said a Red Bull spokesman in response to the German government's announcement. Though the cocaine alkaloid is one of 10 alkaloids in coca leaves and represents only 0.8% of the chemical make-up of the plant, it's removal is mandated by international anti-narcotics agencies when used outside the Andean region.

Meanwhile, in Bolivia, halfway around the world and smack in the middle of the Andes, the controversy is causing chuckles. Coca is a fundamental part of Andean culture and for years, Bolivians have tried to get the world to understand that the leaf is not a drug if it's not put through the extensive chemical process that yields cocaine. Left-wing President Evo Morales, a coca-grower himself, has made coca validation a personal quest, chewing leaves in front of world leaders and press cameras during his travels. "Let's say [Red Bull Cola] doesn't take out the cocaine alkaloid. Have any of those millions of people across the world who have drunk that soda ever gotten sick or felt drugged?," asks Dionicio Nunez, a coca-growers' leader from the Yungas region. "We've always known that coca isn't harmful. Now maybe others will realize it too."

In Germany, the Red Bull spokesman insisted that his company's product, along with others containing the coca leaf extract are considered safe in Europe and the U.S. And already, some experts have come to Red Bull's defense. "There is no scientific basis for this ban on Red Bull Cola because the levels of cocaine found are so small," Fritz Soergel, the head of the Institute for Biomedical and Pharmaceutical Research in the city of Nuremberg, tells TIME. "And it's not even cocaine itself. According to the tests we carried out, it's a non-active degradation product with no effect on the body. If you start examining lots of other drinks and food so carefully, you'd find a lot of surprising things," he says.

Coca leaves, of course, have a long record in modern soda pop history. Most prominently, there was Coca-Cola whose original 19th century formula used unaltered coca leaves. In the early 1900s the company said it would only use "spent," or de-cocainized leaves though the company refuses to confirm whether leaves in any form are still used.

But the problem is when it comes to coca and cocaine, it's not just a health concern, but a legal one. Since 1961, trade of coca outside the Andean region — where people have chewed or brewed coca in tea to stave off hunger and exhaustion for centuries — has been prohibited unless, the cocaine alkaloid is removed. Few companies in the world have authorization to trade in the leaf and most are pharmaceutical companies that perform this de-cocainizing process. The most prominent is New Jersey-based Stepan Chemical Company which has been reported to supply Coca-Cola with its narcotic-free derivative.

But no one knows where Red Bull Cola's coca leaves come from or where they are processed. Red Bull did not respond to immediate requests for comment and Rauch Trading AG, the Austria-based food company that actually manufactures Red Bull Cola was quick to tell TIME that they are not allowed to speak about the product. Meanwhile, Bolivia, which has lots of coca leaves to sell, is getting a kick out of the fact Red Bull Cola admits to using coca in any form (since Coca-Cola evades the question). Ironically, the drink is not actually available yet in Bolivia. But, the locals say, this is a great opportunity to show that coca isn't harmful — with or without the cocaine alkaloid.


I always wondered why I got such a buzz from that stuff.
:shock:

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:11 pm
by Ehwmatt
Sounds like a nifty excuse for a failed drug test

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:13 pm
by Voyager
Ehwmatt wrote:Sounds like a nifty excuse for a failed drug test


Yeah, but how do you explain the THC?

:lol:

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:16 pm
by Ehwmatt
Voyager wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Sounds like a nifty excuse for a failed drug test


Yeah, but how do you explain the THC?

:lol:


Why, second hand smoke of course! You were at that party with Phelps.

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:32 pm
by Voyager
Ehwmatt wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Sounds like a nifty excuse for a failed drug test


Yeah, but how do you explain the THC?

:lol:


Why, second hand smoke of course! You were at that party with Phelps.


Brilliant!

I'll bet there is a run on Red Bull Cola tomorrow. Don't get stampeded running for the Bulls.

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:lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:56 pm
by Maui Tom
she don't lie...she don't lie...she don't lie

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:41 pm
by Babyblue
Voyager wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Sounds like a nifty excuse for a failed drug test


Yeah, but how do you explain the THC?

:lol:


Why, second hand smoke of course! You were at that party with Phelps.


Brilliant!

I'll bet there is a run on Red Bull Cola tomorrow. Don't get stampeded running for the Bulls.

Image

:lol: :lol:



:lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:05 am
by Rip Rokken
Cocaine was originally an ingredient in Coca Cola for a while. Hence the nickname, "Coke".

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:01 am
by Michigan Girl
Rip Rokken wrote:Cocaine was originally an ingredient in Coca Cola for a while. Hence the nickname, "Coke".


Sure was, the good ol' days!!! :evil: :wink:

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:18 am
by Voyager
Michigan Girl wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Cocaine was originally an ingredient in Coca Cola for a while. Hence the nickname, "Coke".


Sure was, the good ol' days!!! :evil: :wink:


Yeah, I remember... those were the days... when Pepsi was laced with heroin...

:lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:21 am
by Michigan Girl
Voyager wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Cocaine was originally an ingredient in Coca Cola for a while. Hence the nickname, "Coke".


Sure was, the good ol' days!!! :evil: :wink:


Yeah, I remember... those were the days... when Pepsi was laced with heroin...

:lol: :lol:


Yeah, that was a trip!! :wink:

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:25 am
by KDOUBLEU
Michigan Girl wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Cocaine was originally an ingredient in Coca Cola for a while. Hence the nickname, "Coke".


Sure was, the good ol' days!!! :evil: :wink:


Yeah, I remember... those were the days... when Pepsi was laced with heroin...

:lol: :lol:


Yeah, that was a trip!! :wink:
You Guys are way older than me! :)

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:26 am
by S2M
7-up had lithium.....true story.

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:27 am
by Michigan Girl
KDOUBLEU wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Cocaine was originally an ingredient in Coca Cola for a while. Hence the nickname, "Coke".


Sure was, the good ol' days!!! :evil: :wink:


Yeah, I remember... those were the days... when Pepsi was laced with heroin...

:lol: :lol:


Yeah, that was a trip!! :wink:
You Guys are way older than me! :)


Probably, I think you'd have to be in your 70's to remember...... :wink:

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:30 am
by Don
Michigan Girl wrote:
KDOUBLEU wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Cocaine was originally an ingredient in Coca Cola for a while. Hence the nickname, "Coke".


Sure was, the good ol' days!!! :evil: :wink:


Yeah, I remember... those were the days... when Pepsi was laced with heroin...

:lol: :lol:


Yeah, that was a trip!! :wink:
You Guys are way older than me! :)


Probably, I think you'd have to be in your 70's to remember...... :wink:


Back in the days of lawn darts.

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:32 am
by KDOUBLEU
Gunbot wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
KDOUBLEU wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Cocaine was originally an ingredient in Coca Cola for a while. Hence the nickname, "Coke".


Sure was, the good ol' days!!! :evil: :wink:


Yeah, I remember... those were the days... when Pepsi was laced with heroin...

:lol: :lol:


Yeah, that was a trip!! :wink:
You Guys are way older than me! :)


Probably, I think you'd have to be in your 70's to remember...... :wink:


Back in the days of lawn darts.
And Croquet

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:38 am
by S2M
.....and Bocce. :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:41 am
by Michigan Girl
When I had to walk to school in the snow, uphill both ways. shoeless!!!
But it felt good.....as long as I had a COKE!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:42 am
by Don
Michigan Girl wrote:When I had to walk to school in the snow, uphill both ways. shoeless!!!
But it felt good.....as long as I had a COKE!!! :wink:


Through 6 ft of snow, in 100 degree weather...

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:54 am
by Blueskies
Gunbot wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:When I had to walk to school in the snow, uphill both ways. shoeless!!!
But it felt good.....as long as I had a COKE!!! :wink:


Through 6 ft of snow, in 100 degree weather...

In snow boots and a bikini.

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:54 am
by KDOUBLEU
Gunbot wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:When I had to walk to school in the snow, uphill both ways. shoeless!!!
But it felt good.....as long as I had a COKE!!! :wink:


Through 6 ft of snow, in 100 degree weather...
Now I know youre older than me.

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:00 am
by TRAGChick
The most HILARIOUS visual....what happens to you when you drink a leeeeetle bit too much RED BULL

This explains A LOT: :lol: :twisted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h6iCn0301M

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:55 pm
by Voyager
KDOUBLEU wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
KDOUBLEU wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Cocaine was originally an ingredient in Coca Cola for a while. Hence the nickname, "Coke".


Sure was, the good ol' days!!! :evil: :wink:


Yeah, I remember... those were the days... when Pepsi was laced with heroin...

:lol: :lol:


Yeah, that was a trip!! :wink:
You Guys are way older than me! :)


Probably, I think you'd have to be in your 70's to remember...... :wink:


Back in the days of lawn darts.
And Croquet


Yeah, back when it was cool to play croquet and listen to Jim Croce.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqYkCJaBAyA

:P