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Interesting music blog

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:32 am
by StoneCold
Reviews of a variety of rock albums. Checked their Journey page and lo, and behold, even Andrew gets a mention:

http://www.banophernalia.com/reviews/mu ... ourney.htm

Revelation

This is a strange release. It literally includes everything but the kitchen sink. Here in North America the package contains two discs and a concert DVD - all for $12 bucks (Canadian at Wal-Mart). I really didn't have any intention of picking this up, I mean really another Perryesque singer - this time Neal picked this one off of Youtube. I mean really - I'd had enough, Journey had turned into a charachature of itself, whoring it's once proud name to make a buck.

So what happened?

I decided to give it a chance, mainly because I was hearing some good things about the disc from people who usually have a pretty good ability to call bullshit when they hear it. Although Andrew at Melodicrock.com's review was so glowing I thought he was overdoing his meds.

Anyway I listened to the first disc a couple of times, and was pretty impressed. The new guy had that Perry tone, but the songs were being sung by him and were his to interpret his way. Based solely on the music, I'd stack this up with anything the band had done before. Alhough why the guys felt they had to put in "Faith in the Heartland" is a bit of a mystery - it's a good tune, and was one of the highlights Generations.

What cemented the deal for me was the live DVD. In fact if you're kind of on the fence over whether or not Arnel Pineda can actually pull off the gig, watch the concert first. Yeah, he's a bit wild eyed at times, but my goodness he can sing, and the blending of the old and new material works really well.

The disc of covers is a bit of a brain twister overall - Journey covering Journey? The band practically recreates note for note eleven of their past hits with Arnel front and centre - and he pulls it off. If you're firmly in the Perry camp, this this is insult to injury.

For all that though I have to say, if you're a fan of Journey, then this is something you do need to get your hands on. It will indeed be revelation (oh come on, how could I resist). Overall I'd put Revelation ahead of the "reunion" album back in 1996. This is classic Journey, and Neal is a good as ever (better in many respects). In fact the whole band has found another gear - the only downside is that it isn't 1986 anymore.

Re: Interesting music blog

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:35 am
by artist4perry
StoneCold wrote:Reviews of a variety of rock albums. Checked their Journey page and lo, and behold, even Andrew gets a mention:

http://www.banophernalia.com/reviews/mu ... ourney.htm

Revelation

This is a strange release. It literally includes everything but the kitchen sink. Here in North America the package contains two discs and a concert DVD - all for $12 bucks (Canadian at Wal-Mart). I really didn't have any intention of picking this up, I mean really another Perryesque singer - this time Neal picked this one off of Youtube. I mean really - I'd had enough, Journey had turned into a charachature of itself, whoring it's once proud name to make a buck.

So what happened?

I decided to give it a chance, mainly because I was hearing some good things about the disc from people who usually have a pretty good ability to call bullshit when they hear it. Although Andrew at Melodicrock.com's review was so glowing I thought he was overdoing his meds.

Anyway I listened to the first disc a couple of times, and was pretty impressed. The new guy had that Perry tone, but the songs were being sung by him and were his to interpret his way. Based solely on the music, I'd stack this up with anything the band had done before. Alhough why the guys felt they had to put in "Faith in the Heartland" is a bit of a mystery - it's a good tune, and was one of the highlights Generations.

What cemented the deal for me was the live DVD. In fact if you're kind of on the fence over whether or not Arnel Pineda can actually pull off the gig, watch the concert first. Yeah, he's a bit wild eyed at times, but my goodness he can sing, and the blending of the old and new material works really well.

The disc of covers is a bit of a brain twister overall - Journey covering Journey? The band practically recreates note for note eleven of their past hits with Arnel front and centre - and he pulls it off. If you're firmly in the Perry camp, this this is insult to injury.

For all that though I have to say, if you're a fan of Journey, then this is something you do need to get your hands on. It will indeed be revelation (oh come on, how could I resist). Overall I'd put Revelation ahead of the "reunion" album back in 1996. This is classic Journey, and Neal is a good as ever (better in many respects). In fact the whole band has found another gear - the only downside is that it isn't 1986 anymore.


Oh come on, let the little wombat glow, it was a good album. Critics........ :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:49 am
by steveo777
I love most of Revelation....and this might sound nutty, but there are two remakes that I actually like better than the originals. They are Who's Crying Now and Seperate Ways. Arnel really does them justice. Normally I am quite opposed to remakes, but this time they worked for me. :D

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:22 am
by Since 78
steveo777 wrote:I love most of Revelation....and this might sound nutty, but there are two remakes that I actually like better than the originals. They are Who's Crying Now and Seperate Ways. Arnel really does them justice. Normally I am quite opposed to remakes, but this time they worked for me. :D


Not nutty at all, I prefer OTY and AWYWI over the originals. 8)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:48 am
by Gideon
OtY and OA for me. "Who's Cryin' Now" was okay; but I'm not partial to the Perry version either. The best part of that song is Neal's solo and they started to fade it out way too early in the rerecorded version.

"Separate Ways" is inferior until the chorus comes along and then it starts to shine as well as the original. Neal's guitars were just a little too prominent; half of the song's beauty comes from the keyboards.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:49 am
by jrnyman28
I think I agree largely with the writer.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:47 am
by StoneCold
Beyohd "Revelation" check out some of his other reviews. Looks like this is his personal music collection and there's quite a variety.

I saw reviews for Shadow King, Dream Theater, Genesis and artists I've never heard of.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:59 am
by portland
He gave TBF the nod too......

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:07 am
by Since 78
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:08 am
by portland
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






Hey I am just sayin that he gave TBF a good review too....I tried to find Revelation today at Walmart...just to see what it sounds like...I want to judge for myself as I have only seen you tube stuff....no copies at my Walmart asked the clerk if more were on order and he said that there were no more on order WTF they are on tour!...they had plenty of SP Journey...just sayin :wink: Just for the record not a Loon....just think the re-records where wrong and really appreicate SP's voice...some of SA is great....something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....but that JMO and I know alot of people love it...that is why I live in America...you can have an opinion!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:46 am
by StoneCold
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....


c'mon... ah! :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:47 am
by G.I.Jim
StoneCold wrote:
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....


c'mon... ah! :wink:


:lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:50 am
by portland
G.I.Jim wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....


c'mon... ah! :wink:


:lol: :lol:




r u guys being smart asses with me....

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:43 pm
by StoneCold
portland wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....


c'mon... ah! :wink:


:lol: :lol:




r u guys being smart asses with me....


pineda has been known to adding an extra syllable here and there as in ... "wheel in the sky... ah!"

maybe its just letting out some air or just a habit

The "c'mon!" is what he kept saying to the crowd at his first concert in Chile, not sure if he still does it.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:38 pm
by portland
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






Hey I am just sayin that he gave TBF a good review too....I tried to find Revelation today at Walmart...just to see what it sounds like...I want to judge for myself as I have only seen you tube stuff....no copies at my Walmart asked the clerk if more were on order and he said that there were no more on order WTF they are on tour!...they had plenty of SP Journey...just sayin :wink: Just for the record not a Loon....just think the re-records where wrong and really appreicate SP's voice...some of SA is great....something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....but that JMO and I know alot of people love it...that is why I live in America...you can have an opinion!






I tried Walmart.com and it's not available either....I guess I will just buy a copy of Arrival and call it good.....did they not make enough copies....two more local Walmarts to go...then I guess I will have to rely on YouTube :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:16 am
by StoneCold
portland wrote:

I tried Walmart.com and it's not available either....I guess I will just buy a copy of Arrival and call it good.....did they not make enough copies....two more local Walmarts to go...then I guess I will have to rely on YouTube :wink:


You have a lot of options ya know:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AN ... -1&seller=

http://cgi.ebay.com/JOURNEY-Revelation- ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Journey-Revelation- ... dZViewItem

and finally the official Journey store:

http://journey.shop.musictoday.com/Cart ... =Dept.aspx

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:28 am
by G.I.Jim
StoneCold wrote:
portland wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....


c'mon... ah! :wink:


:lol: :lol:




r u guys being smart asses with me....


pineda has been known to adding an extra syllable here and there as in ... "wheel in the sky... ah!"

maybe its just letting out some air or just a habit

The "c'mon!" is what he kept saying to the crowd at his first concert in Chile, not sure if he still does it.


Agreed. I wasn't laughing at you Portland...just that statement, because I can still hear Arnel saying that. :lol: He said it CONSTANTLY when I saw them last year, and it drove me NUTS! :lol: It was a cool concert though, and I got to aggravate Dan all night...that's always a plus! :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:30 am
by portland
StoneCold wrote:
portland wrote:

I tried Walmart.com and it's not available either....I guess I will just buy a copy of Arrival and call it good.....did they not make enough copies....two more local Walmarts to go...then I guess I will have to rely on YouTube :wink:


You have a lot of options ya know:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AN ... -1&seller=

http://cgi.ebay.com/JOURNEY-Revelation- ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Journey-Revelation- ... dZViewItem

and finally the official Journey store:

http://journey.shop.musictoday.com/Cart ... =Dept.aspx




Thanks for letting me know - will order on e-bay as it's the cheapest!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:32 am
by RocknRoll
Makes you wonder if maybe Journey is trying to get out of the exclusive Walmart deal since Walmart is carrying everything but Revelation. Seems weird that they are out on the Revelation tour and still have songs in the top 20 to not have the album out there anywhere.

:? :? :?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:00 am
by portland
RocknRoll wrote:Makes you wonder if maybe Journey is trying to get out of the exclusive Walmart deal since Walmart is carrying everything but Revelation. Seems weird that they are out on the Revelation tour and still have songs in the top 20 to not have the album out there anywhere.

:? :? :?





That was the point I was trying to make......why are they out?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:09 am
by Since 78
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






Hey I am just sayin that he gave TBF a good review too....I tried to find Revelation today at Walmart...just to see what it sounds like...I want to judge for myself as I have only seen you tube stuff....no copies at my Walmart asked the clerk if more were on order and he said that there were no more on order WTF they are on tour!...they had plenty of SP Journey...just sayin :wink: Just for the record not a Loon....just think the re-records where wrong and really appreicate SP's voice...some of SA is great....something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....but that JMO and I know alot of people love it...that is why I live in America...you can have an opinion!


Thats because its SPs full time job to keep the shelves full, he doesn't do anything else! On the other hand Journey will be busy working on a new album! :P

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:12 am
by portland
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






Hey I am just sayin that he gave TBF a good review too....I tried to find Revelation today at Walmart...just to see what it sounds like...I want to judge for myself as I have only seen you tube stuff....no copies at my Walmart asked the clerk if more were on order and he said that there were no more on order WTF they are on tour!...they had plenty of SP Journey...just sayin :wink: Just for the record not a Loon....just think the re-records where wrong and really appreicate SP's voice...some of SA is great....something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....but that JMO and I know alot of people love it...that is why I live in America...you can have an opinion!


Thats because its SPs full time job to keep the shelves full, he doesn't do anything else! On the other hand Journey will be busy working on a new album! :P








Well gotta keep the bank account full! 8)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:38 am
by Don
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:
Since 78 wrote:
portland wrote:He gave TBF the nod too......


Yes, he said it rates ahead of TBF. Just sayin.. Don't get all Looney on me! :lol: :wink:






Hey I am just sayin that he gave TBF a good review too....I tried to find Revelation today at Walmart...just to see what it sounds like...I want to judge for myself as I have only seen you tube stuff....no copies at my Walmart asked the clerk if more were on order and he said that there were no more on order WTF they are on tour!...they had plenty of SP Journey...just sayin :wink: Just for the record not a Loon....just think the re-records where wrong and really appreicate SP's voice...some of SA is great....something about AP's voice just bugs me....I can't put my finger on it....but that JMO and I know alot of people love it...that is why I live in America...you can have an opinion!


Thats because its SPs full time job to keep the shelves full, he doesn't do anything else! On the other hand Journey will be busy working on a new album! :P








Well gotta keep the bank account full! 8)


Jeremey told us that Revelation only sold 300 copies the first quarter of the year (which I guess he knows from his royalty payments). Considering Wal-Mart only has room to carry 5k titles compared to major record stores who hold up to 60,000 different titles, which album are you going to carry, the GH package that is an evergreen title at 15X Platinum, or Revelation which has topped out at 750,000 units sold, a year out? AC/DC and The Eagles moved moved more units than that in only two months and their albums are barely kept in stock also.
Wal-Mart isn't stupid, they probably promised to stock a certain amount of units (1 million?) and after that they are off the hook. If the store has long term digital rights though, then Journey is fucked as far as moving the album over to itunes or AmazonMusic. We'll have to see how that plays out.
Journey was paid well, they are no longer needed by Wal-Mart. If their next album doesn't have Don't Stop Believin' printed somewhere on the CD jacket, then chances are, Wal-Mart won't be asking them back.

Foreigner is getting set to work on a three disc package (one new disc, on retread disc and one live DVD). Maybe they're Wal-Mart's next exclusive.