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Ross Valory Bankrupt Question

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:46 am
by youkeepmewaiting
I remember briefly reading a while ago that after Perry fired him he went bankrupt. Is this true?

I dont know why I'm bothered, just wanted to know.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:44 am
by Marabelle
That dastardly Perry did it again? I don't know if he really had that much to do with Ross' bankruptcy cause when you make that much money it takes a whole lot of debt over quite a few years for things to go kaput!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:46 am
by Art Vandelay
Ross spoke about it on the director's cut of VH1's Behind the Music. I don't remember all of the specifics, but I do remember something about him losing the family home that was passed down through a few generations, or something along those lines.

Re: Ross Valory Bankrupt Question

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:53 am
by Jubilee
youkeepmewaiting wrote:I remember briefly reading a while ago that after Perry fired him he went bankrupt. Is this true?

I dont know why I'm bothered, just wanted to know.


I remember hearing something like that, however, IIRC, Herbie Herbert said in an interview that he made sure Valory (and Smitty) were paid full shares during that time. Seems to me the bankruptcy occurred after the TBF fiasco when everyone was counting on there being a tour, but the band had to return certain funds when they were unable to fulfill their obligations.

I dunno, one of our MR "Historians" will have to clarify. :D

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:55 am
by Don
If Ross was living paycheck to paycheck, he's got a lot more demons than Steve Perry to blame for his financial woes.

Re: Ross Valory Bankrupt Question

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:08 am
by Art Vandelay
Jubilee wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:I remember briefly reading a while ago that after Perry fired him he went bankrupt. Is this true?

I dont know why I'm bothered, just wanted to know.


I remember hearing something like that, however, IIRC, Herbie Herbert said in an interview that he made sure Valory (and Smitty) were paid full shares during that time. Seems to me the bankruptcy occurred after the TBF fiasco when everyone was counting on there being a tour, but the band had to return certain funds when they were unable to fulfill their obligations.

I dunno, one of our MR "Historians" will have to clarify. :D


The timeframe was before TBF. I don't remember if the financial woes kicked in immediately after the Frontiers tour or after the ROR hiatus, but it was definitely before TBF. I'm thinking between '87 and '91, before he joined The Storm.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:31 am
by SP Fan in Oregon
Gunbot wrote:If Ross was living paycheck to paycheck, he's got a lot more demons than Steve Perry to blame for his financial woes.



Maybe if he's still having financial problems, he could ask for a government bailout. :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:13 am
by steveo777
Maybe he had Willie Nelson's accountant. 8)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:13 am
by Voyager
Now I understand why Ross seemed so bitter towards Perry on the VH1 BTM show. He was counting on a big TBF tour to pull his ass out of the poor house, and it didn't happen. Plus Perry fired him for ROR, so I guess Ross had valid reasons to be bitter.

8)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:16 am
by Blueskies
I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:18 am
by Rhiannon
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:21 am
by Don
Voyager wrote:Now I understand why Ross seemed so bitter towards Perry on the VH1 BTM show. He was counting on a big TBF tour to pull his ass out of the poor house, and it didn't happen. Plus Perry fired him for ROR, so I guess Ross had valid reasons to be bitter.

8)


Maybe he should have asked his BROTHERS for a helping hand. Seriously, The guy is a professional musician who was coming off of his band's biggest successes with Escape and Frontiers. Even if he didn't get paid for ROR (which is not the case, according to HH), he has to be responsible enough to have a reliable accountant. Considering he doesn't get songwriting royalties, he should have been even more prudent in his own finacial matters. He only has his self to blame, like the rest of us do when we don't plan accordingly.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:26 am
by SP Fan in Oregon
Gunbot wrote:
Voyager wrote:Now I understand why Ross seemed so bitter towards Perry on the VH1 BTM show. He was counting on a big TBF tour to pull his ass out of the poor house, and it didn't happen. Plus Perry fired him for ROR, so I guess Ross had valid reasons to be bitter.

8)


Maybe he should have asked his BROTHERS for a helping hand. Seriously, The guy is a professional musician who was coming off of his band's biggest successes with Escape and Frontiers. Even if he didn't get paid for ROR (which is not the case, according to HH), he has to be responsible enough to have a reliable accountant. Considering he doesn't get songwriting royalties, he should have been even more prudent in his own finacial matters. He only has his self to blame, like the rest of us do when we don't plan accordingly.



No, when the rest of us "don't plan accordingly" we ask Obama to step in and save us with the people's money. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:30 am
by Art Vandelay
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:31 am
by youkeepmewaiting
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


Is it any different than any other celebrity or Journey "gossip"?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:31 am
by steveo777
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


That was my initial thought when I saw this thread, but hell, people around here like to gossip and even want to know what color underwear SP has on. :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:33 am
by youkeepmewaiting
Besides Ross must surely know that everyone loves him.. (part from Perry of course :lol: )

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:34 am
by Rhiannon
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:37 am
by youkeepmewaiting
Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.


Hence the whole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:39 am
by stevew2
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.


Hence the hole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him...
Hole???

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:40 am
by youkeepmewaiting
stevew2 wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.


Hence the hole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him...
Hole???


Isnt that your second name?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:41 am
by steveo777
stevew2 wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.


Hence the hole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him...
Hole???


Yes, you dummy, that's where Ross's money went.....Duh!! :roll: :wink: 8)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:48 am
by SP Fan in Oregon
steveo777 wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


That was my initial thought when I saw this thread, but hell, people around here like to gossip and even want to know what color underwear SP has on. :roll:


I want to know if he wears any. :oops:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:52 am
by youkeepmewaiting
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


That was my initial thought when I saw this thread, but hell, people around here like to gossip and even want to know what color underwear SP has on. :roll:


I want to know if he wears any. :oops:


I think he just wears a cat.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:54 am
by Don
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


That was my initial thought when I saw this thread, but hell, people around here like to gossip and even want to know what color underwear SP has on. :roll:


I want to know if he wears any. :oops:


I think he just wears a cat.


So he is usually inside a pussy all day?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:54 am
by Since 78
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


That was my initial thought when I saw this thread, but hell, people around here like to gossip and even want to know what color underwear SP has on. :roll:


I want to know if he wears any. :oops:


I think he just wears a cat.


:lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:57 am
by youkeepmewaiting
Gunbot wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


That was my initial thought when I saw this thread, but hell, people around here like to gossip and even want to know what color underwear SP has on. :roll:


I want to know if he wears any. :oops:


I think he just wears a cat.


So he is usually inside a pussy all day?


Yep.. Perry is use to fucking things... just ask Valory :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:58 am
by Don
Does this get to page two before...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:04 am
by SP Fan in Oregon
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


That was my initial thought when I saw this thread, but hell, people around here like to gossip and even want to know what color underwear SP has on. :roll:


I want to know if he wears any. :oops:


I think he just wears a cat.


Sorry for the digression from Ross' finances to Perry's lucky kitty...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:04 am
by Since 78
Gunbot wrote:Does this get to page two before...

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Well, so far we have questions about Steve's underwear or lack thereof , sex with cats.... Id say yes. Umm.. I mean No. :lol: