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OT: Rhode Island to possibly be renamed... Rhode Island?

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:49 am

I need to talk about something other than MJ and I just found a topic that annoyed me... this one made me shake my head and wonder if other people think this is just as stupid, or actually agree with the idea behind this...

By RAY HENRY, Associated Press Writer Ray Henry, Associated Press Writer – Thu Jun 25, 9:53 pm ET
PROVIDENCE, R.I. – The country's smallest state has the longest official name: "State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations."

A push to drop "Providence Plantations" from that name advanced farther than ever on Thursday when House lawmakers voted 70-3 to let residents decide whether their home should simply be called the "State of Rhode Island." It's an encouraging sign for those who believe the formal name conjures up images of slavery, while opponents argue it's an unnecessary rewriting of history that ignores Rhode Island's tradition of religious liberty and tolerance.

The bill permitting a statewide referendum on the issue next year now heads to the state Senate.

"It's high time for us to recognize that slavery happened on plantations in Rhode Island and decide that we don't want that chapter of our history to be a proud part of our name," said Rep. Joseph Almeida, an African-American lawmaker who sponsored the bill.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090626/ap_on_re_us/us_providence_plantations


Are you kidding me? What, may I ask, is wrong with the name "Providence Plantations"? It's not as if it's called "State of Rhode Island and Whip-Crackers." If that were the case I'd say go ahead and drop it. Slavery happened ON plantations, it was not the function OF plantations.

"A plantation is a large farm or estate where crops that are not consumed for food are grown for sale in distant markets, rather than for local consumption. Such crops include cotton, coffee, tobacco, sugar cane, sisal, and various oil seeds and rubber trees..."

What is wrong with the word "plantation"? It's like saying "factory" or "farm". Are we seriously this sensative? Let's re-write history to remove all the things we don't like?

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Postby Rhiannon » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:02 am

Uh-huh... and people chastise the South as if the slavery thing was 100% our bag.
I wonder how many people still believe the succession was over slavery and NOT outrageous crop taxation?
All of the colonies and later states/commonwealths were equally guilty. The north just pulled some sly shit freeing everyone (which, mind you was the right thing to do... DUH) but their intentions weren't equal rights so much as they were "smoking out" the plantation owners by leaving them destitute with rotten cotton to get those states back in the union and regain the revenue.

Wait... I'm on enough soapboxes for one day. I should shut up. :? :oops: :lol:

Long story short... screw Rhode Island's stupid name change. :P
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Postby Tito » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:04 am

Rhiannon wrote:Uh-huh... and people chastise the South as if the slavery thing was 100% our bag.
I wonder how many people still believe the succession was over slavery and NOT outrageous crop taxation?
All of the colonies and later states/commonwealths were equally guilty. The north just pulled some sly shit freeing everyone (which, mind you was the right thing to do... DUH) but their intentions weren't equal rights so much as they were "smoking out" the plantation owners by leaving them destitute with rotten cotton to get those states back in the union and regain the revenue.

Wait... I'm on enough soapboxes for one day. I should shut up. :? :oops: :lol:

Long story short... screw Rhode Island's stupid name change. :P


Good for you Rhi. You know your history. Unfortunately, very few do.
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Re: OT: Rhode Island to possibly be renamed... Rhode Island?

Postby Tito » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:05 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Are you kidding me? What, may I ask, is wrong with the name "Providence Plantations"? It's not as if it's called "State of Rhode Island and Whip-Crackers."
What is wrong with the word "plantation"? It's like saying "factory" or "farm". Are we seriously this sensative? Let's re-write history to remove all the things we don't like?

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Postby Rhiannon » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:11 am

Tito wrote:Good for you Rhi. You know your history. Unfortunately, very few do.


Thanks, T. 8)
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Postby S2M » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:10 pm

We Rhode Islanders think that locking/deleting posts is the cowards way of dealing with something.....and for no good reason. And I don't care who has a problem with my opinion - deal with it.

Way to cater to the whiners..... :roll:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:43 pm

StocktontoMalone wrote:We Rhode Islanders think that locking/deleting posts is the cowards way of dealing with something.....and for no good reason.


Then as a Rhode Islander, comment on the dang topic. What's up with the editorial? What got deleted? Who be fightin'? Did I miss the show? :lol:
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