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Jonathan Cain Interview
Friday, August 7, 2009
McKinneyNews.net interviews Jonathan Cain of Journey

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2009/au ... n-journey/

"When I joined, I immediately tailored my lyrics to Steve [Perry], so Steve could be comfortable with a soulful delivery of the music. He needed the lyrics to be authentic, to feel authentic and so I catered to that need. The two of us in that band [Cain and Perry], we had similar record heroes, similar influences – stuff like Three Dog Night, or The Hollies, or the Eagles. We liked the same music and were going for that same melodic presentation."

Nice interview.

artist4perry wrote:Nice interview.

I thought so too, he mentions Steve in a good way and that is alright, maybe they are finally realizing what he was to them. WISHFUL THINKING?

moangel58 wrote:

artist4perry wrote:Nice interview.

I thought so too, he mentions Steve in a good way and that is alright, maybe they are finally realizing what he was to them. WISHFUL THINKING?

I especially like the part where JC says:
"Without the three of us, it just wasn’t Journey." (referring to Neal, Steve and himself)

I smell a 10-pager coming...lol

Thanks for the link!

artist4perry wrote:Nice interview.

I'm sure it is deeply riveting. Tell us Jon, what's the set list look like?

"Well Jim, it's the same as last year, and almost the same as 1998. We did however add a extra arrangement into Separate Ways to keep the audience on their toes."

moangel58 wrote:

moangel58 wrote:

artist4perry wrote:Nice interview.

I thought so too, he mentions Steve in a good way and that is alright, maybe they are finally realizing what he was to them. WISHFUL THINKING?

I especially like the part where JC says:
"Without the three of us, it just wasn’t Journey." (referring to Neal, Steve and himself)

I hope for once these guys learn that trashing each other publicly will only give themselves a black eye. I have great admiration for Jon, and love his music. But at the same time I love Steve's music, and have been a Perry fan for a long time. I just want to love the music. Not hear who did what to whom. That is personal stuff that they need to keep and work out themselves. Life is just to short to keep grudges that serve no purpose.

moangel58 wrote:

artist4perry wrote:Nice interview.

I thought so too, he mentions Steve in a good way and that is alright, maybe they are finally realizing what he was to them. WISHFUL THINKING?

You are completely fucking insane. I mean, 100% certifiably fucking weird.

McKinneyNews.net: I have to ask. What about Steve Perry? Will Steve ever be part of the band again?

Cain: I think Steve kind of closed the door. We have an open door policy. If he wants to come around and sing I’m sure Arnel will be the first to tell you he will share the stage with Steve Perry. But Steve’s kind of moved on. He’s got his own life.





I think she was refering to this question. But as he said. Perry has moved on. Don't get your hopes up.

moangel58 wrote:Jonathan Cain Interview
Friday, August 7, 2009
McKinneyNews.net interviews Jonathan Cain of Journey

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2009/au ... n-journey/

"When I joined, I immediately tailored my LICKS to Steve [Perry], so Steve could be comfortable with a soulful delivery of the music. He needed the lyrics to be authentic, to feel authentic and so I catered to that need. The two of us in that band [Cain and Perry], we had similar record heroes, similar influences – stuff like Three Dog Night, or The Hollies, or the Eagles. We liked the same music and were going for that same melodic presentation."

Here i fixed it

After years and years of hearing about "1/2/3/4 steps tuned down" songs and the usual drama that comes with that, haha... I finally get to see this: "I had to transpose the song about four steps up." Just thought it was funny.

A nice read.

Not sure what he meant when he said "he needed the lyrics to be authentic, feel authentic..."

Cool interview.
How about this line?

"Things on the new album Steve Perry wouldn’t touch"

Do you think that's a shot? Like he couldn't do them now, could never have done them or just wouldn't have done them, stylistically?

Hmm.......

The open door policy thing is funny too. Anybody want to take odds on that ever happening? I mean, I think it would be cool and I'd sure as hell watch, but can you imagine him agreeing to do that?

McKinneyNews.net: I have to ask. What about Steve Perry? Will Steve ever be part of the band again?

Cain: I think Steve kind of closed the door. We have an open door policy. If he wants to come around and sing I’m sure Arnel will be the first to tell you he will share the stage with Steve Perry. But Steve’s kind of moved on. He’s got his own life.

when hell freezes over.
fuckin' ridiculous. (ala rockindeano)

madsplash wrote:Cool interview.
How about this line?

"Things on the new album Steve Perry wouldn’t touch"

Do you think that's a shot? Like he couldn't do them now, could never have done them or just wouldn't have done them, stylistically?

Hmm.......

The open door policy thing is funny too. Anybody want to take odds on that ever happening? I mean, I think it would be cool and I'd sure as hell watch, but can you imagine him agreeing to do that?

I think your reading smoke between the lines. I don't feel he took any shots at Perry, and it seemed he was just answering the questions. Maybe because of Arnel's style and Steve's being different that is all. As far as them together again? I would not hold your breath on that. But never say never.

Esc wrote:McKinneyNews.net: I have to ask. What about Steve Perry? Will Steve ever be part of the band again?

Cain: I think Steve kind of closed the door. We have an open door policy. If he wants to come around and sing I’m sure Arnel will be the first to tell you he will share the stage with Steve Perry. But Steve’s kind of moved on. He’s got his own life.

when hell freezes over.
fuckin' ridiculous. (ala rockindeano)

LOL! I thought the same thing.

"Without the three of us, it just wasn’t Journey."


Case closed.

Some 25 years after its heyday, Cain’s band has managed to move its collective product into the visceral regions of the American psychic landscape, burrowing deeply into the collective consciousness of four decades worth of fans with a beguiling combination of irresistible keyboard-driven melodic lines accented by an oftentimes ferocious, rock-blues guitar attack.

I fucking knew it all along. Who else did?

Gunbot wrote:"Without the three of us, it just wasn’t Journey."


Case closed.

"Now that we’ve plugged Arnel into the band, I think we have all the pieces to make great music and play great concerts for the next decade."

Maybe for the Loons!

OT:

steveo777 wrote:

Some 25 years after its heyday, Cain’s band has managed to move its collective product into the visceral regions of the American psychic landscape, burrowing deeply into the collective consciousness of four decades worth of fans with a beguiling combination of irresistible keyboard-driven melodic lines accented by an oftentimes ferocious, rock-blues guitar attack.

I fucking knew it all along. Who else did?

dude you're a freakin genius.
i had to quote you to see how you quoted that interview.

back to topic.

Two things stood out to me:

Cain: " ...It’s funny. I was hired to bring an edge to the band, but ironically I brought the love songs."

and

McKinneyNews.net: What about "Faithfully?" That was your song, right?

Cain: "Yeah.... I recorded a demo and played it for Steve and he wanted it for his solo record. I told him the song was about me and Journey, not about his solo record."

I thought it was a fanatastic interview about the songwriting process between the guys. It always boggles my mind the way some on here dismiss Cain's contribution to Journey, and it was huge.

Tito will be in heaven. Cain actually being showcased on this forum.

hoagiepete wrote:Not sure what he meant when he said "he needed the lyrics to be authentic, feel authentic..."

I thought that one was pretty self-explanatory, but.....basically, it meant that Perry needed to be able to relate to the lyrics he was singing. In other words, he wasn't going to let Journey turn into a band writing about dungeons and dragons (or pick random topic he couldn't relate to). Lyrics aren't important to some people, but they are to others. For singers, they are usually pretty important, since that is where the heart of your vocal is coming from. Obviously, that relatability of what he was singing was very important to Perry. No real surprise at all...

Jana wrote:I thought it was a fanatastic interview about the songwriting process between the guys. It always boggles my mind the way some on here dismiss Cain's contribution to Journey, and it was huge.

+1

No one with any credibility can deny Jonathan Cain's contribution to Journey.

Jana wrote:I thought it was a fanatastic interview about the songwriting process between the guys. It always boggles my mind the way some on here dismiss Cain's contribution to Journey, and it was huge.

Agreed. I also don't get picking apart his words and demonizing the man. Geez he said nothing ugly about Steve, so loons relax, and he just answered the questions as they came. It was a nice interview. Jon is an amazing piano player, I remember the first time I saw Journey and he did a solo. I was so uplifted. It was so beautiful. He is a talented man. End of story.

Since 78 wrote:

Gunbot wrote:"Without the three of us, it just wasn’t Journey."


Case closed.

"Now that we’ve plugged Arnel into the band, I think we have all the pieces to make great music and play great concerts for the next decade."

Maybe for the Loons!

LOL, Since 78.

Wrong. They've written some beautiful music post-Steve, and I will always show my appreciation for that and the songs I love off Arrival and Red13, Generations and Revelation. Generations was uneven, but there are some songs I absolutely love from that CD.

Perry sang with the intention of hearing the group's songs on the radio.

Arnel sings with the intention of putting rice on the table.

I'll go with the hit maker on this one.

McKinneyNews.net wrote:I thought Journey was done after Raised on Radio was released in 1986. The band went on hiatus, Steve Perry dropped out, etc. Then all of the sudden there’s a new singer and a relatively new album (Revelation, 2008) that has sold more than two million copies -- all this without the benefit of radio saturation. What do you make of that?

Interesting. Was the Augeri-era & Soto tour unknown or just easily forgettable?


later~

madsplash wrote:Cool interview.
How about this line?

"Things on the new album Steve Perry wouldn’t touch"

Do you think that's a shot? Like he couldn't do them now, could never have done them or just wouldn't have done them, stylistically?

Hmm.......

My guess is he means wouldn't have/refused to do them. I've thought that about everyting from 98 on just "I couldn't see perry agreeing to make songs like that."