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Extended versions of the Dirty Dozen or more songs?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:55 am
by Don
Do you prefer the extended guitar riffs and things that the band are importing into some of the dirty dozen or would you rather that they add two or three more songs into the setlist instead?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:59 am
by G.I.Jim
Which ones have they extended? I know they did on "Separate Ways" and "What I Needed", but are there others? I'd rather hear those two songs extended even if it meant them dropping some lame song (Lights, and Wheel In The Sky come to mind). :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:03 am
by Don
G.I.Jim wrote:Which ones have they extended? I know they did on "Separate Ways" and "What I Needed", but are there others? I'd rather hear those two songs extended even if it meant them dropping some lame song (Lights, and Wheel In The Sky come to mind). :wink:


DSB, AWYWI and Open Arms. WITS was already extended I thought but they may have lengthened it even more.

I like the old version of WITS when they slowly led into it with a bluesy type Intro.

Re: Extended versions of the Dirty Dozen or more songs?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:06 am
by Rick
Gunbot wrote:Do you prefer the extended guitar riffs and things that the band are importing into some of the dirty dozen or would you rather that they add two or three more songs into the setlist instead?


I think the extended versions are great. Especially Wheel In The Sky and the new addition to Separate Ways. Both of these songs are far better than the originals. I didn't even like Separate Ways on the CD, but it's a great concert song.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:11 am
by Deb
Gunbot wrote:Do you prefer the extended guitar riffs and things that the band are importing into some of the dirty dozen or would you rather that they add two or three more songs into the setlist instead?


It all depends on the band and/or the song, not usually big on extended guitar riffs, but would love to see something like La Raza Del Sol in there to showcase all of them.

As far as extended versions, I loooooove the extended version of the song in my sig.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:14 am
by G.I.Jim
Gunbot wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:Which ones have they extended? I know they did on "Separate Ways" and "What I Needed", but are there others? I'd rather hear those two songs extended even if it meant them dropping some lame song (Lights, and Wheel In The Sky come to mind). :wink:


DSB, AWYWI and Open Arms. WITS was already extended I thought but they may have lengthened it even more.

I like the old version of WITS when they slowly led into it with a bluesy type Intro.


Oh yeah, I forgot about Open Arms being extended. The rest of those can go away and my feelings wouldn't be hurt!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:17 am
by Since 78
More songs!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:18 am
by Don
I think extending rockers is cool in general except for a pop song like DSB. It comes off cheesy the way they do it, to me anyway. I think trying to turn Open Arms into Who's Crying now doesn't work either. AWYWI, on the other hand is a great song to throw a bunch of extra guitar riffs into.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:22 am
by Jana
Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Do you prefer the extended guitar riffs and things that the band are importing into some of the dirty dozen or would you rather that they add two or three more songs into the setlist instead?


I think the extended versions are great. Especially Wheel In The Sky and the new addition to Separate Ways. Both of these songs are far better than the originals. I didn't even like Separate Ways on the CD, but it's a great concert song.


Absolutely. Love, love these songs extended, SW, WITS. And I would rather some other DD be dropped that I don't care for and add songs I want. DSB, drop the extended, but it's fine either way.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:24 am
by Don
Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:42 am
by Jana
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:43 am
by Jana
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?


extended in a large concert.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:45 am
by Arkansas
Play 'Butterfly' for an hour, then 'Turn Down the World' Tonight for another hour.
Go home and pork your old lady for two hours.
Perfect night.



later~

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:46 am
by Rick
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?


I'd rather not have that song at all, if possible. :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:58 am
by Don
Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?


I'd rather not have that song at all, if possible. :lol: :lol:


I agree but the fairer sex still seems to find some fascination with that song.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:10 am
by stevew2
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?
Retire that relec

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:37 am
by Deb
Gunbot wrote:
Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?


I'd rather not have that song at all, if possible. :lol: :lol:


I agree but the fairer sex still seems to find some fascination with that song.


I would much rather see Still They Ride as a staple than Open Arms. I actually skip over that one and DSB most times now.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:43 am
by steveo777
Deb wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?


I'd rather not have that song at all, if possible. :lol: :lol:


I agree but the fairer sex still seems to find some fascination with that song.


I would much rather see Still They Ride as a staple than Open Arms. I actually skip over that one and DSB most times now.


Everytime I've been to a concert, JC's piano segue into OA cues me that it's time to go to the rest room and bring back a fresh beer. Of course I normally return to see my wife practically melted into tears over that song. :P

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:58 am
by Jana
steveo777 wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?


I'd rather not have that song at all, if possible. :lol: :lol:


I agree but the fairer sex still seems to find some fascination with that song.


I would much rather see Still They Ride as a staple than Open Arms. I actually skip over that one and DSB most times now.


Everytime I've been to a concert, JC's piano segue into OA cues me that it's time to go to the rest room and bring back a fresh beer. Of course I normally return to see my wife practically melted into tears over that song. :P


Maybe her tears are that you've returned. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: J/K/W/U

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:12 am
by Saint John
Don't Stop Believin' is too much a part of pop culture to be altered. Return it to its original form immediately.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:23 am
by zigzag
Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Deb wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?


I'd rather not have that song at all, if possible. :lol: :lol:


I agree but the fairer sex still seems to find some fascination with that song.


I would much rather see Still They Ride as a staple than Open Arms. I actually skip over that one and DSB most times now.


Everytime I've been to a concert, JC's piano segue into OA cues me that it's time to go to the rest room and bring back a fresh beer. Of course I normally return to see my wife practically melted into tears over that song. :P


Maybe her tears are that you've returned. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: J/K/W/U


and that he only brought back just enough for himself

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:18 pm
by Don
To the 15 people who voted for more songs, Neal says, "Tough!". You're going to get a 5 minute version of Open Arms and you're gonna like it.
Personally, I think Send her My Love will always be a harder edged ballad, no matter how many minutes of solo Schon adds to OA.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:35 pm
by DrFU
Gunbot wrote:
Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Would you rather have an extended Open Arms or have it done acoustically, like Augeri did with Faithfully and Kiss me Softly?


I'd rather not have that song at all, if possible. :lol: :lol:


I agree but the fairer sex still seems to find some fascination with that song.


I hope they leave it exactly where it is in the setlist because my bladder is now trained to hold out for precisely that long.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:36 pm
by Don
Saint John wrote:Don't Stop Believin' is too much a part of pop culture to be altered. Return it to its original form immediately.


I agree 100%. The way this song used to stop on a dime at the end was epic. Remember the interview from 2007 when Ross said they would never mess with the arrangements on the classics? Well apparently, never is equavilent to two years in Journey's universe. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:51 pm
by PianoMan1986
For me this is a tough call -- where's the option for both? :lol: I don't have a great way to word this, so try to follow the best you can: If it's a longer show, I would love to hear more songs (new, old, rarities), but if it's on more of a time-restriction due to venue, then go for the extended versions -- either way is a "change for the better."

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:58 pm
by Don
PianoMan1986 wrote:For me this is a tough call -- where's the option for both? :lol: I don't have a great way to word this, so try to follow the best you can: If it's a longer show, I would love to hear more songs (new, old, rarities), but if it's on more of a time-restriction due to venue, then go for the extended versions -- either way is a "change for the better."


I've always loved the extended version of WITS. Too bad they can't do the Sam Cooke type intro like they used to. AWYWI and Seperate ways are rockers so no problems on extending them. DSB is a classic so it shouldn't be touched. Open Arms just sucks so dump it completely. That should leave time for a few more songs. If they need another ballad, TDTWT or Send Her My Love. If they want to jam and not worry about Pineda's Vocals, play Precious Time. That song rocks and you can continuosly add to the end solo if you want.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:45 pm
by wednesday's child
If they would just 'extend' Neal's solos on Open Arms and Faithfully,
and cut waaaaaay back on the original as-recorded arrangements,
(say 100% new solo, and 0% original song), I'd be happy as fuck-all.

-wech

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:13 am
by Michigan Girl
wednesday's child wrote:If they would just 'extend' Neal's solos on Open Arms and Faithfully,
and cut waaaaaay back on the original as-recorded arrangements,
(say 100% new solo, and 0% original song), I'd be happy as fuck-all.-wech


LMAO...Love it!!! Good to read you, Wech!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:20 am
by wednesday's child
Hey there, MG! :)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:24 am
by RaisedOnRadio92
I love the extended version of 'Separate Ways', 'Any Way You Want It' is pretty cool, too. But 'Don't Stop Believin' isn't quite as good. It's really cool and all, but they are someone over dramatizing the 'Don't Stop' part.

All in all, I give the extended versions a 9/10.