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Why Didn't Soul Sirkus Do Well?l

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:46 pm
by perryswoman
Okay first let me say I am not here to start a fight but why didn't this band get good reviews? I saw JSS with Journey and thought we was fantastic although I like him better in SS but it just seemed he and Neal had good chemistry in that band and Neal could rock alittle harder? Why didn't they do well?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:28 pm
by Ehwmatt
It was a good project, that's all I can say... can't answer your question :(

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:13 pm
by Don
Imagine if it would have done well. Augeri might have been given a little more time off or even let go and things might have been completely diferent in regards to where Journey is now.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:11 am
by Arkansas
Used to wonder if SS didn't take themselves way too seriously. Not saying they should have just been a garage band playing for funsies, but I do think they over-produced themselves a bit. They were a super group of relative unknowns and the timing was off for a heavy R&B almost progressive thing.

Btw, always wished they'd covered Grand Funk Railroad's 'Some Kind of Wonderful' for a radio song & show opener. (I think there are several GFR songs they could redo quite well.) They could have had some sort of edgy dim orchestration just trickling thru that crescendo'd a bit into the drums & bass that starts that song. That could quickly crescendo into punching you right in the face just before Soto rips into the opening lines. He would move over to the keys and then Neal comes out on guitar. Always thought that would be a fun cool way to open their shows.


later~

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:17 am
by Rick
Arkansas wrote:Btw, always wished they'd covered Grand Funk Railroad's 'Some Kind of Wonderful'


I had never even considered this notion, but you're absolutely right. Good call man.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:01 am
by StoneCold
Been a while, your thread gave me reason to spin it again.

The one thing that stands out more than any other is the lack of hooks. It plays more like a long jam than anything else.

It reminds me of an album that's similar in style (heavy guitar driven rock) but completely full of hooks and melody.

Giant - Last of the Runaways

Innocent Days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yNGGy1I5gs

SS suffered 'cause despite funding it and being as dedicated as he might of been, this was still a side project for Neal. If it didn't fly, oh well, there's always that other successful band to go back to.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:19 am
by Maui Tom
probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:33 am
by Rick
Maui Tom wrote:probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...


Agreed. How can the gathering of such great musicians come up with that? That name sucks.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:36 am
by whirlwind
"Had I known that everything was going to be so sleepy in America, nobody would even know who we were; I would have just done two months in Europe and forgotten about America right now."........Neal Schon

Maybe S.S. will make a comeback someday when Schon's name becomes a household name.



:wink:

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:45 am
by SF-Dano
Rick wrote:
Maui Tom wrote:probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...


Agreed. How can the gathering of such great musicians come up with that? That name sucks.


I can think of worse. Two words.........."Chicken Foot".

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:51 am
by Rick
SF-Dano wrote:
Rick wrote:
Maui Tom wrote:probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...


Agreed. How can the gathering of such great musicians come up with that? That name sucks.


I can think of worse. Two words.........."Chicken Foot".
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, that one is another "What were they thinking" moment.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:57 am
by StoneCold
Rick wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:
Rick wrote:
Maui Tom wrote:probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...


Agreed. How can the gathering of such great musicians come up with that? That name sucks.


I can think of worse. Two words.........."Chicken Foot".
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, that one is another "What were they thinking" moment.


I'd love to see what names these two bands threw away. LOL

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:58 am
by Rick
StoneCold wrote:
Rick wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:
Rick wrote:
Maui Tom wrote:probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...


Agreed. How can the gathering of such great musicians come up with that? That name sucks.


I can think of worse. Two words.........."Chicken Foot".
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, that one is another "What were they thinking" moment.


I'd love to see what names these two bands threw away. LOL


Frumious Bandersnatch. LMAO!!!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:00 am
by StoneCold
Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Rick wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:
Rick wrote:
Maui Tom wrote:probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...


Agreed. How can the gathering of such great musicians come up with that? That name sucks.


I can think of worse. Two words.........."Chicken Foot".
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, that one is another "What were they thinking" moment.


I'd love to see what names these two bands threw away. LOL


Frumious Bandersnatch. LMAO!!!


The Pretty Rickys ... "pRickys"

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:06 am
by SF-Dano
Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Rick wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:
Rick wrote:
Maui Tom wrote:probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...


Agreed. How can the gathering of such great musicians come up with that? That name sucks.


I can think of worse. Two words.........."Chicken Foot".
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, that one is another "What were they thinking" moment.


I'd love to see what names these two bands threw away. LOL


Frumious Bandersnatch. LMAO!!!


Hippiepotamus....Rumpled Foreskin :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:14 am
by perryswoman
Yea I went back and watched a ton of videos last night and I like JSS singing TBF and ROR but nothing before that but he is very talented and sure has some great stage prescence with SS and Neal and I really like their covering Purple Rain and Faithfully. OH WELL

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:21 am
by fightingilliniJRNY
Rick wrote:
Maui Tom wrote:probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...


Agreed. How can the gathering of such great musicians come up with that? That name sucks.


As a side note, as good as JSS' new project sounds...naming the band W.E.T. is absolutely ridiculous. They couldn't come up with a better name than taking the initials of the members' previous bands? How am I going to bring this up in conversation? "Yeah, have you heard the new album by wet?"

Soul Sirkus, W.E.T., yikes.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:33 am
by StoneCold
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
Maui Tom wrote:probably means little but it was one of the worst names for a band ever...


Agreed. How can the gathering of such great musicians come up with that? That name sucks.


As a side note, as good as JSS' new project sounds...naming the band W.E.T. is absolutely ridiculous. They couldn't come up with a better name than taking the initials of the members' previous bands? How am I going to bring this up in conversation? "Yeah, have you heard the new album by wet?"

Soul Sirkus, W.E.T., yikes.


Agree, WET sounds like something from the funky fresh 80s.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:39 am
by Jana
I've listened to some of Soul Sirkus' stuff. Not my thing.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:42 am
by Deb
I like SS! It's dirty rock, gritty rock, hard rock.............not everything has to have poppy hooks. :lol: Would love to have seen SS LIVE..........and would be cool to see Jeff and Marco work together again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPja-p4w ... re=related

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:20 am
by Arianddu
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How am I going to bring this up in conversation? "Yeah, have you heard the new album by wet?"


It poses another interesting problem - years ago a friend googled the band 'Wet Wet Wet' and had to go through three pages of porn before getting to the band. I tried it today and it's no longer a problem, but I can imagine the responses a few word combinations from potential song titles with the band name might get; W.E.T. + love, hot, lady, etc. :shock: :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:24 am
by Behshad
Jana wrote:I've listened to some of Soul Sirkus' stuff. Not my thing.


Soul SirkUs was great LIVE, but the cd is/was just ok. :?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:25 am
by StoneCold
Arianddu wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:How am I going to bring this up in conversation? "Yeah, have you heard the new album by wet?"


It poses another interesting problem - years ago a friend googled the band 'Wet Wet Wet' and had to go through three pages of porn




You call that a problem...




some call it a bonus.




Image

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:54 am
by Arianddu
StoneCold wrote:
Arianddu wrote:It poses another interesting problem - years ago a friend googled the band 'Wet Wet Wet' and had to go through three pages of porn


You call that a problem...

some call it a bonus.

Image


Sigh. Get out of the Bishmobile, Stoney, you can walk home.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:01 am
by Lula
because azoff wouldn't let them.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:07 am
by StoneCold
Arianddu wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Arianddu wrote:It poses another interesting problem - years ago a friend googled the band 'Wet Wet Wet' and had to go through three pages of porn


You call that a problem...

some call it a bonus.

Image


Sigh. Get out of the Bishmobile, Stoney, you can walk home.



Hell no! I won't go! I'm driving this thing we call lust. Remember?!


To the BishMo!

Image

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:53 am
by fightingilliniJRNY
Lula wrote:because azoff wouldn't let them.


Couldn't be that other than Neal Schon, nobody knew who anybody in the band was, right?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:54 am
by steveo777
Well, I certainly would not trade Journey for SS and that might be what would have come to if Neal would have stayed committed to it.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:58 am
by fightingilliniJRNY
steveo777 wrote:Well, I certainly would not trade Journey for SS and that might be what would have come to if Neal would have stayed committed to it.


That's what some people say, and that's why some people say that the band was deliberately sabotaged by Journey's management. The common belief all along was that some people in Journey's management wouldn't let Neal take the time necessary to start-up the band and wouldn't properly support it as they would any other up-and-coming band.

Neal got his second chance with the JSS-fronted Journey, and from all accounts it was the best of both worlds for Mr. Schon - a band that was poised to rock harder with his choice of frontman, and a band that had name recognition to continue to be big.

And the rest I'll leave blank.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:07 pm
by steveo777
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Well, I certainly would not trade Journey for SS and that might be what would have come to if Neal would have stayed committed to it.


That's what some people say, and that's why some people say that the band was deliberately sabotaged by Journey's management. The common belief all along was that some people in Journey's management wouldn't let Neal take the time necessary to start-up the band and wouldn't properly support it as they would any other up-and-coming band.

Neal got his second chance with the JSS-fronted Journey, and from all accounts it was the best of both worlds for Mr. Schon - a band that was poised to rock harder with his choice of frontman, and a band that had name recognition to continue to be big.

And the rest I'll leave blank.


So in the end, Azoff wouldn't let them is probably a pretty true statement.