MR

We have to use common sense here. Without a sweet royalty deal from Wal-Mart, I can't imagine them doing a multi-disc set, so let's think of these options as 15 track albums.

I don't know how feasible two of the options are as Neal has got to be tired of having Steve Perry's name attached to everything he does, even though the guy has been gone forever, and letting him get paid off of new albums not released by Sony might be the last thing he wants now, even if the amounts are only a few hundred thousand dollars or whatever.

I say from scratch, all new and nothing out of the can. Anything in the can with any previous singer's writing credits on it has to stay in the can. Outside of that, pull out all the stops. I have no idea what the trio consisting of Cain, Schon & Pineda can pull out, but I think were about to find out. It will either fly or we will have the Hindenburg II. It's time to shed the shadow of he who shall not be named and see if they really can go somewhere on their own. I'm rooting for them.

All in this time......new stuff ONLY and Well See

New stuff only. You can throw a cover song in there as an extra track, that would be cool. I just don't want to hear it in concert.

Easy -- NEW stuff.

New stuff as heavy and hard rocking as possible....e.g Chain Reaction , Edge of the Blade.

Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:New stuff as heavy and hard rocking as possible....e.g Chain Reaction , Edge of the Blade.

I forgot to include the "NO FLUFFING BALLADS" option. Christ, they've still got ballads from Revelation they haven't given exposure to yet.

Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

Escape Artist wrote:Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

Most albums these days seem to have one throw away track. I figured a cover could be that one song, here.

Who voted live album? Any particular reason besides it being a selectable option?
Could you give us a setlist you would like to see on it?

I hope they release a 15 song album, and if they do... I want all new material. It would be cool if they wrote 13 new songs, then added a live version of the new extended "Separate Ways", and a live version of "What I Needed". I would LOVE to have those in high quality on a disk!

Gunbot wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

Most albums these days seem to have one throw away track. I figured a cover could be that one song, here.

I see. Didn't vote though because i want all new material with no filler or "throw aways".

Play the cover tunes live, to show your flexibility and all around prowess, but leave the cover song off the album.

Neal, call me, dude.

Escape Artist wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

Most albums these days seem to have one throw away track. I figured a cover could be that one song, here.

I see. Didn't vote though because i want all new material with no filler or "throw aways".

Christ, you don't ask for much do you dude? There are only about a handful of albums ever released that have been diagnosed as perfect. Hell, Escape had a few throwaways on it.

G.I.Jim wrote:I hope they release a 15 song album, and if they do... I want all new material. It would be cool if they wrote 13 new songs, then added a live version of the new extended "Separate Ways", and a live version of "What I Needed". I would LOVE to have those in high quality on a disk!

Nice, Jimbo. I like. But it can be a 13-song album, 11 new and the SW and WIN extended versions live from the Manila show. Awesome idea. Neal, are ya' listening?
But I'm not locked down on the number of new songs. I don't want filler.

+1

G.I.Jim wrote:I hope they release a 15 song album, and if they do... I want all new material. It would be cool if they wrote 13 new songs, then added a live version of the new extended "Separate Ways", and a live version of "What I Needed". I would LOVE to have those in high quality on a disk!

Nice, Jimbo. I like. But it can be a 13-song album, 11 new and the SW and WIN extended versions live from the Manila show. Awesome idea. Neal, are ya' listening?
But I'm not locked down on the number of new songs. I don't want filler.

+1

Rockindeano wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

Most albums these days seem to have one throw away track. I figured a cover could be that one song, here.

I see. Didn't vote though because i want all new material with no filler or "throw aways".

Christ, you don't ask for much do you dude? There are only about a handful of albums ever released that have been diagnosed as perfect. Hell, Escape had a few throwaways on it.

I can ask for anything I want, just doesn't mean I'll get what I want ... ask my Wife!

Escape Artist wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

Most albums these days seem to have one throw away track. I figured a cover could be that one song, here.

I see. Didn't vote though because i want all new material with no filler or "throw aways".

Christ, you don't ask for much do you dude? There are only about a handful of albums ever released that have been diagnosed as perfect. Hell, Escape had a few throwaways on it.

I can ask for anything I want, just doesn't mean I'll get what I want ... ask my Wife!

She never tells ME no! JUST messing with you man, you left yourself open... had to take it!.

Rockindeano wrote:Play the cover tunes live, to show your flexibility and all around prowess, but leave the cover song off the album.

[b]Neal, call me, dude[/b].

Escape Artist wrote:Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

I didn't vote since I agree with EA. No covers.

Don't bands use ocvers when they lose a lot of the creativity to create their own music?

RocknRoll wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

I didn't vote since I agree with EA. No covers.

Don't bands use ocvers when they lose a lot of the creativity to create their own music?

I guess it depends. The BodyGuard soundtrack sold 45 million copies on the strength of a cover song. No one thought less of Whitney's other songs on the album because of it.

As long as you don't make it a habit.

I voted new...I don't care about cover songs, hasn't that been done?!?!?
All new stuff=true test...

RobbieG wrote:

Granny wrote:Play the cover tunes live, to show your flexibility and all around prowess, but leave the cover song off the album.

Neal, call me, dude.

G.I.Jim wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

Most albums these days seem to have one throw away track. I figured a cover could be that one song, here.

I see. Didn't vote though because i want all new material with no filler or "throw aways".

Christ, you don't ask for much do you dude? There are only about a handful of albums ever released that have been diagnosed as perfect. Hell, Escape had a few throwaways on it.

I can ask for anything I want, just doesn't mean I'll get what I want ... ask my Wife!

She never tells ME no! JUST messing with you man, you left yourself open... had to take it!.

Jim - Funny man!

Who needs a new album.... Journey sucks

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RocknRoll wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:Only new stuff. Cover song? Why? I think this will be heavier and a very good effort! We shall see, I am rooting for Journey to follow up Revelation with another solid CD.

I didn't vote since I agree with EA. No covers.

Don't bands use ocvers when they lose a lot of the creativity to create their own music?

Not at all. It shows what flexibility and talent you have to just throw one at em so to speak. For example, that Download festival they played? Those attendees don't want anypart of Open Arms...so? Throw a little Whole Lotta Love at em. Hell, play Crazy Train.

a new cd with Perry and Rolie ...but then I guess, thats a dreamers dream...
or 1978...



Rick

Okay, three votes so far for a live album. Can we get a setlist?

I want a live album from that metal fest they did in Europe.
Surely that was recorded.

Btw, didn't Kevin Shirley say that he'd be in studio with Journey Oct/Nov?



later~

wtf? covers? why is this even being considered?
There's ZERO place for covers on an album....unless the hireling got fired and David Lee Hairpiece is now singing for this group.

Personally, I'd prefer an album where the hireling actually writes some of the music....


I'd also prefer if cave-drunk was no-where within a 1500 mile radius of the group when they record new music....

but given that Shirley's already stated he's going to be with the band between Oct/Nov, I have to get used to the fact that I will continually be disappointed by the Midget and Tampax brigade