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Neal Schon vs Hugo & Evolution tribute Band

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:21 am
by Andrew
Dude is really going off at Hugo on his Facebook page. Lots of colorful words... But Hugo ain't the only Joutrney tribute band - there's about 50 of the bloody outfits going around.

Why has Hugo got up Neal's nose?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:22 am
by Ehwmatt
I was gonna post this... very interesting indeed.

Maybe it has to do with the way Hugo looks alike and the way they tend to get mistaken for the real thing by particularly uninfomred journalists? It's not like they are a new band... but I do remember a year or two back, Evo played some show in NY and some dumbass reviewer mistook them for the real thing cuz of Hugo's look... who knows.

Re: Neal Schon vs Hugo & Evolution tribute Band

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:24 am
by portland
Andrew wrote:Dude is really going off at Hugo on his Facebook page. Lots of colorful words... But Hugo ain't the only Joutrney tribute band - there's about 50 of the bloody outfits going around.

Why has Hugo got up Neal's nose?






Well does it really take that much to piss of Neal??? The simple fact that he looks like Perry may be enough!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:24 am
by Carlitto H@kk
Damn, I'm at work and can't read FB here...

Can anyone paste the comments so we can all see? :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:27 am
by Vladan
What's happening? because I can't find Hugo on FB, I got mr Hunsicker on my list, but where is Hugo?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:29 am
by Ehwmatt
Vladan wrote:What's happening? because I can't find Hugo on FB, I got mr Hunsicker on my list, but where is Hugo?


It's Neal posting the stuff from his account

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:49 am
by strangegrey
Skylorde pm'ed me the actual blog entry from neal and I read it while out to dinner with the family...I literally snorted on the beer I was drinking with dinner. Here's the post:

Neal Schon (via blog) wrote:Heads up! ESCAPE the ( Journey tribute band ) will most likely be hitting your town selling this crap as (The Journey Show) Fraudulent and misleading .


Now, Andrew, having said that, Hugo's band is called "Evolution"...Did Neal say something else with respect to Evo that I missed? Or is someone crossing their signals?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:49 am
by StoneCold
links please

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:51 am
by Ehwmatt
strangegrey wrote:Skylorde pm'ed me the actual blog entry from neal and I read it while out to dinner with the family...I literally snorted on the beer I was drinking with dinner. Here's the post:

Neal Schon (via blog) wrote:Heads up! ESCAPE the ( Journey tribute band ) will most likely be hitting your town selling this crap as (The Journey Show) Fraudulent and misleading .


Now, Andrew, having said that, Hugo's band is called "Evolution"...Did Neal say something else with respect to Evo that I missed? Or is someone crossing their signals?


He goes on to implicate Hugo by name in later comments... don't know why he fucked the name up, but it's definitely Hugo he's talking about

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:55 am
by Aaron
Interesting. Who knows why Schon is wound up about Hugo. It's disappointing to hear though. I love Hugo's stuff and there are only three reasons I can think of that would wind Schon's clock. 1. Hugo and Valentine have put out better Journey material than Journey over the last decade, 2., Hugo is still capable of singing Journey music in the original key (so who's the real tribute?) or 3. Hugo had Augeri come in and sing a few bits with Evolution. I'm betting option three is what has Schon wound up but options 1 or 2 would be more reasonable reasons. You're on the inside Mac, what's the deal?

And damn, doesn't Schon have better things to do that worry about shit like this? For fucks sakes Neal, go write a good fucking rock song for once in a row and put it on the new Journey record to live up to your bull shit you've been talking since 96. Damn, I would have hoped he was bigger this. How disappointing ...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:05 pm
by strangegrey
Aaron wrote:Interesting. Who knows why Schon is wound up about Hugo. It's disappointing to hear though. I love Hugo's stuff and there are only three reasons I can think of that would wind Schon's clock. 1. Hugo and Valentine have put out better Journey material than Journey over the last decade, 2., Hugo is still capable of singing Journey music in the original key (so who's the real tribute?) or 3. Hugo had Augeri come in and sing a few bits with Evolution. I'm betting option three is what has Schon wound up but options 1 or 2 would be more reasonable reasons. You're on the inside Mac, what's the deal?

And damn, doesn't Schon have better things to do that worry about shit like this? For fucks sakes Neal, go writing a good fucking rock song for once in a row and put it on the new Journey record to live up to your bull shit you've been talking since 96. Damn, I would have hoped he was bigger this. How disappointing ...


I think Neal has become/is a more online savy person in past few years. He reads this place more than most of us are willing to acknowledge. He's smart about it...he remains anonymous.

But I sill would love to know whether Neal has put just Hugo in his crosshairs or all tribute bands...The post I labeled above, outlines Escape...and if it's the west coast escape, I can understand his sentiments...

but if he's really meaning Hugo and Evolution...I'm not quite getting it, because Adam Holland (escape's current guitarist) is a fucking monster....a great guitarist and 100x better than Eddie Jelley, evo's previous guitarist....

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:10 pm
by Ehwmatt
strangegrey wrote:
Aaron wrote:Interesting. Who knows why Schon is wound up about Hugo. It's disappointing to hear though. I love Hugo's stuff and there are only three reasons I can think of that would wind Schon's clock. 1. Hugo and Valentine have put out better Journey material than Journey over the last decade, 2., Hugo is still capable of singing Journey music in the original key (so who's the real tribute?) or 3. Hugo had Augeri come in and sing a few bits with Evolution. I'm betting option three is what has Schon wound up but options 1 or 2 would be more reasonable reasons. You're on the inside Mac, what's the deal?

And damn, doesn't Schon have better things to do that worry about shit like this? For fucks sakes Neal, go writing a good fucking rock song for once in a row and put it on the new Journey record to live up to your bull shit you've been talking since 96. Damn, I would have hoped he was bigger this. How disappointing ...


I think Neal has become/is a more online savy person in past few years. He reads this place more than most of us are willing to acknowledge. He's smart about it...he remains anonymous.

But I sill would love to know whether Neal has put just Hugo in his crosshairs or all tribute bands...The post I labeled above, outlines Escape...and if it's the west coast escape, I can understand his sentiments...

but if he's really meaning Hugo and Evolution...I'm not quite getting it, because Adam Holland (escape's current guitarist) is a fucking monster....a great guitarist and 100x better than Eddie Jelley, evo's previous guitarist....


In that case Neal, if you're reading, mind PMing me for my address? I buy all your stuff, can I get a signed CD or two and oh yeah, one of those signature LPs now that you're not playing them any more? Maybe two of them? I'll pay shipping

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:15 pm
by Aaron
Dude, I agree. Holland kicks ass! I seen them (Valentine) last spring in NYC and Adam (the original Valentine guitarist) rocked. The only thing that makes sense to me is Hugo is applying too much "pressure" on Journey but who knows. The last I heard Hugo still sings the Journey stuff in it's original key. :lol: I think it sucks Schon has enough time or is insecure enough to worry about stupid shit like this. I would hope he'd be a bigger person than this. WTF does Schon have to prove to anyone? If you're reading Neal, grow the fuck up. Jeezus.

Will someone please cut and paste Neal's comments here?


strangegrey wrote:
Aaron wrote:Interesting. Who knows why Schon is wound up about Hugo. It's disappointing to hear though. I love Hugo's stuff and there are only three reasons I can think of that would wind Schon's clock. 1. Hugo and Valentine have put out better Journey material than Journey over the last decade, 2., Hugo is still capable of singing Journey music in the original key (so who's the real tribute?) or 3. Hugo had Augeri come in and sing a few bits with Evolution. I'm betting option three is what has Schon wound up but options 1 or 2 would be more reasonable reasons. You're on the inside Mac, what's the deal?

And damn, doesn't Schon have better things to do that worry about shit like this? For fucks sakes Neal, go writing a good fucking rock song for once in a row and put it on the new Journey record to live up to your bull shit you've been talking since 96. Damn, I would have hoped he was bigger this. How disappointing ...


I think Neal has become/is a more online savy person in past few years. He reads this place more than most of us are willing to acknowledge. He's smart about it...he remains anonymous.

But I sill would love to know whether Neal has put just Hugo in his crosshairs or all tribute bands...The post I labeled above, outlines Escape...and if it's the west coast escape, I can understand his sentiments...

but if he's really meaning Hugo and Evolution...I'm not quite getting it, because Adam Holland (escape's current guitarist) is a fucking monster....a great guitarist and 100x better than Eddie Jelley, evo's previous guitarist....

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:15 pm
    by StoneCold
    Hugo's been doing the Perry show for years.

    Why the ruckus now?

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:18 pm
    by portland
    StoneCold wrote:Hugo's been doing the Perry show for years.

    Why the ruckus now?




    Something got him wound up....and yes links please as I am not Neal's friend on Facebook or is this on Myspace?? not that I am his friend there either :wink:

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:29 pm
    by Andrew
    Just heard that there is a story behind this, but have not yet been told what that is. Don't have time to talk ont he phone with my contact today, so I'll hang out until Monday to hear what this is all about.

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:30 pm
    by StoneCold
    portland wrote:
    StoneCold wrote:Hugo's been doing the Perry show for years.

    Why the ruckus now?




    Something got him wound up....and yes links please as I am not Neal's friend on Facebook or is this on Myspace?? not that I am his friend there either :wink:


    You "could" become his friend.

    Cheerleader pics help. :wink:

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:35 pm
    by portland
    StoneCold wrote:
    portland wrote:
    StoneCold wrote:Hugo's been doing the Perry show for years.

    Why the ruckus now?




    Something got him wound up....and yes links please as I am not Neal's friend on Facebook or is this on Myspace?? not that I am his friend there either :wink:


    You "could" become his friend.

    Cheerleader pics help. :wink:



    I have enough friends..... :wink:

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:51 pm
    by JasonD
    It is SO rude to talk bad about someone without giving the rest of us a link to the drama so we can join in the fun-fest. :evil: :evil: :lol: :lol: :lol: Hint-hint.

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:52 pm
    by kgdjpubs
    Andrew wrote:Just heard that there is a story behind this, but have not yet been told what that is. Don't have time to talk ont he phone with my contact today, so I'll hang out until Monday to hear what this is all about.


    my theory is that it's something similar to the Survivor problem from a few years ago. Promoters are likely billing Evolution as "Journey", NOT tribute band. One usually doesn't flip without good reason.

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:56 pm
    by mdaemon
    kgdjpubs wrote:
    Andrew wrote:Just heard that there is a story behind this, but have not yet been told what that is. Don't have time to talk ont he phone with my contact today, so I'll hang out until Monday to hear what this is all about.


    my theory is that it's something similar to the Survivor problem from a few years ago. Promoters are likely billing Evolution as "Journey", NOT tribute band. One usually doesn't flip without good reason.


    I read somewhere (probably here) that on Hugo's band banner, the word "Journey" is on a very large font while "tribute band" isn't readable unless you get closer.

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:18 pm
    by Arkansas
    Schon's just putting on a show for Perry. He wants the old band back together so bad, he can't stand it. He's slamming Hugo as a show of love for Steve Perry and the legacy they created together. It's all internal politics.

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Wonder what NS would do if a tribute band had a short Asian dude singing lead?



    later~

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:20 pm
    by mdaemon
    Arkansas wrote:Schon's just putting on a show for Perry. He wants the old band back together so bad, he can't stand it. He's slamming Hugo as a show of love for Steve Perry and the legacy they created together. It's all internal politics.

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Wonder what NS would do if a cover band had a short Asian dude singing lead?



    later~


    ...fixed it for you :)

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:29 pm
    by Eric
    Aaron wrote: 1. Hugo and Valentine have put out better Journey material than Journey over the last decade...


    Pffffffffffffff

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:46 pm
    by cyndy!
    Neal Schon (via blog) wrote:Heads up! ESCAPE the ( Journey tribute band ) will most likely be hitting your town selling this crap as (The Journey Show) Fraudulent and misleading .

    i don't know anything about the band he's referring to, but from the statement above, i understood that neal may have an issue with the band advertising themselves as "the journey show." i would consider that fraudulent & misleading, if that were true.

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:56 pm
    by parfait
    Here's Neal's comments:

    I am steamed ... as far as I'm concerned it is NOT the highest form of flattery. Total Cheese ... and a rip off! F--k these guys and there management.

    I don"t approve any of them... And completely disapprove of there very misleading flyers-posters.... I hate the fact that ( there) management watches were we are playing or were we are going to be and then books them accordingly . Need all your help to put out the word... Thanks Neal

    The fact that these guys in particular use our art -work and Hugo, the fake Perry look a like is very deliberately trying to fool people into believing Perry is back with us.... Wrong and way tacky .....

    Don't get me wrong but I do not have anything against tribute bands... but this is just F--king Bull Shit... at it best . Total RIP OFF!!!

    Not a chance buddy...

    That's what I'm saying John.... they are the worst conniving M-Fu--ers ever...

    ^^ (a reply to: Check them out: http://www.keytarmusic.com/escape.htm
    These freaks even have a full engineering page complete with Backline, Input List and Stage Plot. How fuc*in ridiculous is that??
    We love you Neal, and Arnel is our guy, most loved in Hawaii. No worries Brah, no body cares to see that other band anyway.)

    Best thing to do is boycott and call them on it personally. Thanks 4 all the support... N

    I am talking about the band that Hugo is in... sorry if I'm wrong..

    Sorry but I don't condone anything from Hugo... needs to do his own music period...


    neal got some issues

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:57 pm
    by Rick
    Eric wrote:
    Aaron wrote: 1. Hugo and Valentine have put out better Journey material than Journey over the last decade...


    Pffffffffffffff
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Aaron's a Hugohead. I think Hugo is great on his Valentine stuff. Just not my favorite singer on Journey material.

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:02 pm
    by fightingilliniJRNY
    parfait wrote:Here's Neal's comments:

    I am steamed ... as far as I'm concerned it is NOT the highest form of flattery. Total Cheese ... and a rip off! F--k these guys and there management.

    I don"t approve any of them... And completely disapprove of there very misleading flyers-posters.... I hate the fact that ( there) management watches were we are playing or were we are going to be and then books them accordingly . Need all your help to put out the word... Thanks Neal

    The fact that these guys in particular use our art -work and Hugo, the fake Perry look a like is very deliberately trying to fool people into believing Perry is back with us.... Wrong and way tacky .....

    Don't get me wrong but I do not have anything against tribute bands... but this is just F--king Bull Shit... at it best . Total RIP OFF!!!

    Not a chance buddy...

    That's what I'm saying John.... they are the worst conniving M-Fu--ers ever...

    ^^ (a reply to: Check them out: http://www.keytarmusic.com/escape.htm
    These freaks even have a full engineering page complete with Backline, Input List and Stage Plot. How fuc*in ridiculous is that??
    We love you Neal, and Arnel is our guy, most loved in Hawaii. No worries Brah, no body cares to see that other band anyway.)

    Best thing to do is boycott and call them on it personally. Thanks 4 all the support... N

    I am talking about the band that Hugo is in... sorry if I'm wrong..

    Sorry but I don't condone anything from Hugo... needs to do his own music period...


    neal got some issues


    Yeah - with people using the artwork and the name Journey inappropriately. And if it's true, he has every right to be pissed off. Being a tribute band is one thing. But if someone is using the Journey logo and misleading people like Neal claims - it is not acceptable. He has every right to want to protect what he has built with Journey.

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:04 pm
    by bluejeangirl76
    cyndy! wrote:
    Neal Schon (via blog) wrote:Heads up! ESCAPE the ( Journey tribute band ) will most likely be hitting your town selling this crap as (The Journey Show) Fraudulent and misleading .

    i don't know anything about the band he's referring to, but from the statement above, i understood that neal may have an issue with the band advertising themselves as "the journey show." i would consider that fraudulent & misleading, if that were true.


    I would agree, that's a little misleading and sneaky, if that is what happened.

    (but then, who is Neal to talk about misleading people into a Journey show?)

    I've been bad. I'll be in the corner, drawing on the wall. :(

    PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:05 pm
    by Rick
    fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
    parfait wrote:Here's Neal's comments:

    I am steamed ... as far as I'm concerned it is NOT the highest form of flattery. Total Cheese ... and a rip off! F--k these guys and there management.

    I don"t approve any of them... And completely disapprove of there very misleading flyers-posters.... I hate the fact that ( there) management watches were we are playing or were we are going to be and then books them accordingly . Need all your help to put out the word... Thanks Neal

    The fact that these guys in particular use our art -work and Hugo, the fake Perry look a like is very deliberately trying to fool people into believing Perry is back with us.... Wrong and way tacky .....

    Don't get me wrong but I do not have anything against tribute bands... but this is just F--king Bull Shit... at it best . Total RIP OFF!!!

    Not a chance buddy...

    That's what I'm saying John.... they are the worst conniving M-Fu--ers ever...

    ^^ (a reply to: Check them out: http://www.keytarmusic.com/escape.htm
    These freaks even have a full engineering page complete with Backline, Input List and Stage Plot. How fuc*in ridiculous is that??
    We love you Neal, and Arnel is our guy, most loved in Hawaii. No worries Brah, no body cares to see that other band anyway.)

    Best thing to do is boycott and call them on it personally. Thanks 4 all the support... N

    I am talking about the band that Hugo is in... sorry if I'm wrong..

    Sorry but I don't condone anything from Hugo... needs to do his own music period...


    neal got some issues


    Yeah - with people using the artwork and the name Journey inappropriately. And if it's true, he has every right to be pissed off. Being a tribute band is one thing. But if someone is using the Journey logo and misleading people like Neal claims - it is not acceptable. He has every right to want to protect what he has built with Journey.


    I smell a law suit. If Irving gets a whiff of this, which I'm pretty sure he has, he'll have Hugo by the ass hairs.