MR

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:19 am**

Why do so many people claim that this cd has a lot of mistakes and why isn't it mentioned more often? I listen to it all the time. IMO, this live cd has some of the best versions of the hits.

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:21 am**

It's a great CD and when I had a guy put it in a local bar they threw it out after a few months because a lot of the regulars (older people) were complaining about "everyone playing Journey all the fucking time." :lol:

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:27 am**

Saint John wrote:It's a great CD and when I had a guy put it in a local bar they threw it out after a few months because a lot of the regulars (older people) were complaining about "everyone playing Journey all the fucking time."

I seem to remember that Neal mentioned that he didn't like it because it had too many faults. Have you noticed any Dan? The songs are so fresh sounding and like I wrote, better than the other GH cd.

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:38 am**

It's alright, but a lot of the songs are played way too fast! As for lots of mistakes... haven't really listened to anything off of there for a while, I'll have to go back and see if I hear a lot of flubs. There might be some miscues or flubbed notes here and there... but I dunno, nothing that sticks out in my memory.

I do remember thinking Friga's piano/synths sounded really cheesy on most of the songs.

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:41 am**

whirlwind wrote:Have you noticed any Dan?

Not one. And I'll take a live CD over a studio album any day because of the unique imperfections. If that one has any they're very minor and unnoticeable. I have a feeling that Neal may have had a fuck-up or two if he was that vocal about the album. I think it's fantastic.

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:58 am**

Saint John wrote:
whirlwind wrote:Have you noticed any Dan?

Not one. And I'll take a live CD over a studio album any day because of the unique imperfections. If that one has any they're very minor and unnoticeable. I have a feeling that Neal may have had a fuck-up or two if he was that vocal about the album. I think it's fantastic.

I think that most songs are, for the most part performed faster in concert. Gotta make room for ad-libs and prolonged solo's I would guess. Schon is a madman and especially on LTS. He is at his overwhelming best on these songs, imo. No wonder he loves to tour with the freedom it gives him to let it all hang out.

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:05 am**

I seem to remember some interview I think it was with SP - he was unhappy with the overall sound of the CD because you really can't hear the audience in the mix it all - it just doesn't sound "live." I think the editing they did to DSB to erase "right here in houston" sucks, personally. I don't think the band got to do much of anything to oversee the album, I think the entire thing was put together by Sony?

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:33 am**

Don't have a single problem w/it....I Like it Live!!!! :wink:

Posted: **Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:26 pm**

Michigan Girl wrote:Don't have a single problem w/it....I Like it Live!!!!

Hey chipmunk, same here. Perry sounds great on it. Its the DSB where Perry sings and then pause.... "Neal".

Haven't listened to it in ages, gonna spin it right now.

My favorite track on it is After The Fall 'cause, well that's my favorite Journey tune and Perry brings it here. Big time.

ATF - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Af ... l/23277710

FF-GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Fa ... y/23277770

SHML - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Se ... e/23277757

End of STR has some good Perry ad lib

STR - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277660

SIL - GHL (excellent version imo)
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277767

Posted: **Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:42 am**

StoneCold wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Don't have a single problem w/it....I Like it Live!!!!

Hey chipmunk, same here. Perry sounds great on it. Its the DSB where Perry sings and then pause.... "Neal".

Haven't listened to it in ages, gonna spin it right now.

My favorite track on it is After The Fall 'cause, well that's my favorite Journey tune and Perry brings it here. Big time.

ATF - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Af ... l/23277710

FF-GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Fa ... y/23277770

SHML - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Se ... e/23277757

End of STR has some good Perry ad lib

STR - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277660

SIL - GHL (excellent version imo)
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277767

Yup, keep a copy for the road~ always.....Grooveshark? Sounds good!!! :wink:

Posted: **Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:44 am**

Michigan Girl wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Don't have a single problem w/it....I Like it Live!!!!

Hey chipmunk, same here. Perry sounds great on it. Its the DSB where Perry sings and then pause.... "Neal".

Haven't listened to it in ages, gonna spin it right now.

My favorite track on it is After The Fall 'cause, well that's my favorite Journey tune and Perry brings it here. Big time.

ATF - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Af ... l/23277710

FF-GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Fa ... y/23277770

SHML - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Se ... e/23277757

End of STR has some good Perry ad lib

STR - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277660

SIL - GHL (excellent version imo)
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277767

Yup, keep a copy for the road~ always.....Grooveshark? Sounds good!!!

It's 1 of 6 in my CD player in my car and After the Fall is one of my FAVES!!!

Posted: **Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:06 am**

I played GHL the other day on the way across town. Mistakes? Nah...people shoudn't expect studio perfection from live shows. A lot of improvs are what make the shows special and fun.

I have to admit I'm enjoying the live in Manila CD a lot right now, though. :wink:

Posted: **Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:00 am**

portland wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Don't have a single problem w/it....I Like it Live!!!!

Hey chipmunk, same here. Perry sounds great on it. Its the DSB where Perry sings and then pause.... "Neal".

Haven't listened to it in ages, gonna spin it right now.

My favorite track on it is After The Fall 'cause, well that's my favorite Journey tune and Perry brings it here. Big time.

ATF - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Af ... l/23277710

FF-GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Fa ... y/23277770

SHML - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Se ... e/23277757

End of STR has some good Perry ad lib

STR - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277660

SIL - GHL (excellent version imo)
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277767

Yup, keep a copy for the road~ always.....Grooveshark? Sounds good!!!

It's 1 of 6 in my CD player in my car and After the Fall is one of my FAVES!!!

Excellent choice!! :wink:

Posted: **Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:06 am**

Michigan Girl wrote:
portland wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Don't have a single problem w/it....I Like it Live!!!!

Hey chipmunk, same here. Perry sounds great on it. Its the DSB where Perry sings and then pause.... "Neal".

Haven't listened to it in ages, gonna spin it right now.

My favorite track on it is After The Fall 'cause, well that's my favorite Journey tune and Perry brings it here. Big time.

ATF - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Af ... l/23277710

FF-GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Fa ... y/23277770

SHML - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Se ... e/23277757

End of STR has some good Perry ad lib

STR - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277660

SIL - GHL (excellent version imo)
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277767

Yup, keep a copy for the road~ always.....Grooveshark? Sounds good!!!

It's 1 of 6 in my CD player in my car and After the Fall is one of my FAVES!!!

Excellent choice!!

What are the other 5?
Lemme guess....Street Talk, FTLOSM, Trial By Fire, Frontiers, Revelation.

Doh! Sorry, if I got one wrong. :wink:

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:58 am**

StoneCold wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Don't have a single problem w/it....I Like it Live!!!!

Hey chipmunk, same here. Perry sounds great on it. Its the DSB where Perry sings and then pause.... "Neal".

Haven't listened to it in ages, gonna spin it right now.

My favorite track on it is After The Fall 'cause, well that's my favorite Journey tune and Perry brings it here. Big time.

ATF - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Af ... l/23277710

FF-GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Fa ... y/23277770

SHML - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Se ... e/23277757

End of STR has some good Perry ad lib

STR - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277660

SIL - GHL (excellent version imo)
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277767

the part where he says, Neal, gives me chills.

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:01 am**

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
portland wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:Don't have a single problem w/it....I Like it Live!!!!

Hey chipmunk, same here. Perry sounds great on it. Its the DSB where Perry sings and then pause.... "Neal".

Haven't listened to it in ages, gonna spin it right now.

My favorite track on it is After The Fall 'cause, well that's my favorite Journey tune and Perry brings it here. Big time.

ATF - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Af ... l/23277710

FF-GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Fa ... y/23277770

SHML - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Se ... e/23277757

End of STR has some good Perry ad lib

STR - GHL
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277660

SIL - GHL (excellent version imo)
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/St ... e/23277767

Yup, keep a copy for the road~ always.....Grooveshark? Sounds good!!!

It's 1 of 6 in my CD player in my car and After the Fall is one of my FAVES!!!

Excellent choice!!

What are the other 5?
Lemme guess....Street Talk, FTLOSM, Trial By Fire, Frontiers, Revelation.

Doh! Sorry, if I got one wrong.

Actually........right now it's Van Halen 5150, Fleetwood Mac, Benatar, and Street Talk, Escape

So you had them all wrong :wink:

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:21 am**

whirlwind wrote:
Saint John wrote:
whirlwind wrote:Have you noticed any Dan?

Not one. And I'll take a live CD over a studio album any day because of the unique imperfections. If that one has any they're very minor and unnoticeable. I have a feeling that Neal may have had a fuck-up or two if he was that vocal about the album. I think it's fantastic.

I think that most songs are, for the most part performed faster in concert. Gotta make room for ad-libs and prolonged solo's I would guess. Schon is a madman and especially on LTS. He is at his overwhelming best on these songs, imo. No wonder he loves to tour with the freedom it gives him to let it all hang out.

Songs are played faster, but were ALWAYS played at that tempo, because of the sampled vocal harmonies that the band (over-) utilized after Rolie left. A lot of bands play faster live simply out of the adrenaline rush, but Journey's uber-speed was completely intentional, for whatever reason.

I don't have a problem with Greatest Hits Live, but I find it pretty uninspiring, with a very dry, lifeless mix and all the songs taken out of order with no recording dates listed or context given. Luckily they seemed to remedy this with the Houston release, which blows GHL out of the water, sound-wise and conceptually.

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:48 am**

Well, Kevin Shirley and Perry mixed the life out of the songs completely. Maybe that's what Neal meant? Horrible production. Captured is what a live album should sound like.

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:15 pm**

daytrpr wrote:Well, Kevin Shirley and Perry mixed the life out of the songs completely. Maybe that's what Neal meant? Horrible production. Captured is what a live album should sound like.

+1,000,000

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:23 pm**

hard to beat captured.that album is perfection.

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:24 pm**

mikemarrs wrote:hard to beat captured.that album is perfection.

It's in my top 5 live albums of all time.

Don't get me wrong, I like GH Live, but this, IMO, is a classic.

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:56 pm**

JSS Rocks! wrote:
mikemarrs wrote:hard to beat captured.that album is perfection.

It's in my top 5 live albums of all time.

Don't get me wrong, I like GH Live, but this, IMO, is a classic.

same here.kiss alive and journey captured are my favorite live albums.

Posted: **Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:54 am**

daytrpr wrote: Captured is what a live album should sound like.

Except for the overdubbed backing vocals which are also on Houston.

If I recall correctly, as far as GH:Live, Stone In Love, LTS, Lights, Stay Awhile, Line Of Fire, Escape, DSB, and WITS are from Houston '81 and Separate Ways is from the Budokan '83 show.

Those are the only ones that I'm 100% positive about.

Posted: **Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:09 pm**

I use to really like Greatest Hits Live, but over the years it as really moved down my list. I have found many boots from the band that are better.

Posted: **Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:51 pm**

Saint John wrote:
whirlwind wrote:Have you noticed any Dan?

Not one. And I'll take a live CD over a studio album any day because of the unique imperfections. If that one has any they're very minor and unnoticeable. I have a feeling that Neal may have had a fuck-up or two if he was that vocal about the album. I think it's fantastic.

He did.
In a past interview he said that some or many of the trax feature out of tune guitarts and/or keyboards from he and Cain.

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:12 am**

I generally don't like live CD's, but GHL is one of my favorites- love the opening to LTS.

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:15 am**

Shitty "live album." Listen to that POS and then go put on Captured. BIG difference. You can't hear the crowd or the nuances at all in GH Live. Neal told me personally that it was a "throw it out there" record. Maybe it counted as a release to satisfy Sony and their contract?

PS- Fuck You JoePa. (Double barreled middle fingers and not a happy face fuck you).

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:22 am**

Rockindeano wrote:Shitty "live album." Listen to that POS and then go put on Captured. BIG difference. You can't hear the crowd or the nuances at all in GH Live. Neal told me personally that it was a "throw it out there" record. Maybe it counted as a release to satisfy Sony and their contract?

PS- Fuck You JoePa. (Double barreled middle fingers and not a happy face fuck you).

I would like neal to tell me something, not just a 'throw it out there' record. Deano, you lucky bastard

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:53 am**

worst part of the album was that DREADFUL cover. Terrible. Had NOTHING to do with Journey.

Seriously- WHAT were they thinking???

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:57 am**

brywool wrote:worst part of the album was that DREADFUL cover. Terrible. Had NOTHING to do with Journey.

Seriously- WHAT were they thinking???

Hated that cover.