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I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Agreed.......it won't happen if he won't show...end of story

They would want him their just to talk about DSB, even though we've heard about the song ad nauseum over the last few years.

portland wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Agreed.......it won't happen if he won't show...end of story

Agreed that he won't show, because they would want him to actually perform LIVE. It will never happen.

At least Gregg Rolie is in. I wonder if he called Neal when he got the invitation?

GR: Dude, you going?

NS: Nah, Bro. That fucking Carlos didn't invite me.

GR: Bummer, well maybe you're turn's next

NS: Yeah, sure

And the years go rolling by.

Only with SP would it be credible.

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms.

Journey and Perry came to terms years ago.

And those terms are "Fuck you" and "Fuck you, too".

It won't happen PERIOD.

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms.

Journey and Perry came to terms years ago.

And those terms are "Fuck you" and "Fuck you, too".

Sounds like alot of the people that post here.......

brywool wrote:It won't happen PERIOD.

Yep. It could be that Journey, like Styx and REO just won't get in because of the corporate/generic rock label that has stuck with them all these years. The Power ballad may not be quite the innovation the Hall is looking for on its list of criteria needed for entry.

brywool wrote:It won't happen PERIOD.

This.

Dave "motherfuckem" Marsh

Gunbot wrote:

brywool wrote:It won't happen PERIOD.

Yep. It could be that Journey, like Styx and REO just won't get in because of the corporate/generic rock label that has stuck with them all these years. The Power ballad may not be quite the innovation the Hall is looking for on its list of criteria needed for entry.

So Pop legend Madonna gets in - operative word Pop. I love Madonna, but ROR Hall of Fame. Come on.

Jana wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

brywool wrote:It won't happen PERIOD.

Yep. It could be that Journey, like Styx and REO just won't get in because of the corporate/generic rock label that has stuck with them all these years. The Power ballad may not be quite the innovation the Hall is looking for on its list of criteria needed for entry.

So Pop legend Madonna gets in - operative word Pop. I love Madonna, but ROR Hall of Fame. Come on. Though, she did sing live.

I would think that Journey would care less about getting in after all the snubs but that little voter button on their official website says else wise (unless that was Lori's doing when she was in PR /Girlfriend mode)

It's not about marketability.

The nominating committee has been messed up for years and for Journey, it's not just about the beak yo!
Click the links and educate yourselves!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298681,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336 ... 417418:z10

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_R ... #Criticism

Gunbot wrote:

Jana wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

brywool wrote:It won't happen PERIOD.

Yep. It could be that Journey, like Styx and REO just won't get in because of the corporate/generic rock label that has stuck with them all these years. The Power ballad may not be quite the innovation the Hall is looking for on its list of criteria needed for entry.

So Pop legend Madonna gets in - operative word Pop. I love Madonna, but ROR Hall of Fame. Come on. Though, she did sing live.

I would think that Journey would care less about getting in after all the snubs but that little voter button on their official website says else wise (unless that was Lori's doing when she was in PR /Girlfriend mode)

Plus, they have teamed up with Rolling Stone Magazine...offering a free subscription when you purchase x$ worth of Merch. Seems like Journey is playing the game.

All the links above proved my point. It is about marketability. An older white act, Dave Clark Five gets pushed aside for an act that brings in different type of audience, a hip hop fan base, a predominately minority fan base, that might not be accessible if the HOF stuck with rock acts only. Isn't that marketing?

Jana wrote:

portland wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Agreed.......it won't happen if he won't show...end of story

Agreed that he won't show, because they would want him to actually perform LIVE. It will never happen.

No, Perry would show, he has to keep up the good guy image.

Since 78 wrote:

Jana wrote:

portland wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Agreed.......it won't happen if he won't show...end of story

Agreed that he won't show, because they would want him to actually perform LIVE. It will never happen.

No, Perry would show, he has to keep up the good guy image.

He'd show. He showed for the Hollywood Walk of Fame, so why not this?

Gunbot wrote:

brywool wrote:It won't happen PERIOD.

Yep. It could be that Journey, like Styx and REO just won't get in because of the corporate/generic rock label that has stuck with them all these years. The Power ballad may not be quite the innovation the Hall is looking for on its list of criteria needed for entry.

I can't see REO in there... ugh....

steveo777 wrote:

Since 78 wrote:

Jana wrote:

portland wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Agreed.......it won't happen if he won't show...end of story

Agreed that he won't show, because they would want him to actually perform LIVE. It will never happen.

No, Perry would show, he has to keep up the good guy image.

He'd show. He showed for the Hollywood Walk of Fame, so why not this?

yeah but the inductees normally perform, don't they? So he'd have to perform with Journey...
That might be a bit on an issue?

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Not to validate half the trash in the hall, but I truly think the band has soiled any chance at getting in the Rock Hall with the singer carousel. This is not a place for airing the problems and merits of each replacement singer, but it's just so laughable to an objective, outside observer. They probably don't deserve to get in any more.

Ehwmatt wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Not to validate half the trash in the hall, but I truly think the band has soiled any chance at getting in the Rock Hall with the singer carousel. This is not a place for airing the problems and merits of each replacement singer, but it's just so laughable to an objective, outside observer. They probably don't deserve to get in any more.

You would have to choose who would actually be getting inducted. Do you tell Augeri no since he didn't have much record selling success with them but Pineda yes even though he doesn't have the years with the band that S.A. does. Does Ansley get in as a member when they first found success? Do you only put in the Escape/Frontiers line up as that was the most successful or do you add in Rolie or do you not add Greg as he's already in with Santana?

What a cluster fuck.

Gunbot wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Not to validate half the trash in the hall, but I truly think the band has soiled any chance at getting in the Rock Hall with the singer carousel. This is not a place for airing the problems and merits of each replacement singer, but it's just so laughable to an objective, outside observer. They probably don't deserve to get in any more.

You would have to choose who would actually be getting inducted. Do you tell Augeri no since he didn't have much record selling success with them but Pineda yes even though he doesn't have the years with the band that S.A. does. Does Ansley get in as a member when they first found success? Do you only put in the Escape/Frontiers line up as that was the most successful or do you add in Rolie or do you not add Greg as he's already in with Santana?

What a cluster fuck.

Yes ^^^^what he said......the only band that needs a pie chart to figure out who should go in

Gunbot wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Not to validate half the trash in the hall, but I truly think the band has soiled any chance at getting in the Rock Hall with the singer carousel. This is not a place for airing the problems and merits of each replacement singer, but it's just so laughable to an objective, outside observer. They probably don't deserve to get in any more.

You would have to choose who would actually be getting inducted. Do you tell Augeri no since he didn't have much record selling success with them but Pineda yes even though he doesn't have the years with the band that S.A. does. Does Ansley get in as a member when they first found success? Do you only put in the Escape/Frontiers line up as that was the most successful or do you add in Rolie or do you not add Greg as he's already in with Santana?

What a cluster fuck.

I have no answer to any of that. Except Gregg would definitely be in.

There has been talk of limiting the induction to once only as Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck have been inducted multiple times because of their affiliation with other groups along with their achievements as solo artists.

Did everyone at the Walk Of Fame get a plaque, how did that all work out?

portland wrote:

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms.

Journey and Perry came to terms years ago.

And those terms are "Fuck you" and "Fuck you, too".

Sounds like alot of the people that post here.......

Fuck you!

Gunbot wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Not to validate half the trash in the hall, but I truly think the band has soiled any chance at getting in the Rock Hall with the singer carousel. This is not a place for airing the problems and merits of each replacement singer, but it's just so laughable to an objective, outside observer. They probably don't deserve to get in any more.

You would have to choose who would actually be getting inducted. Do you tell Augeri no since he didn't have much record selling success with them but Pineda yes even though he doesn't have the years with the band that S.A. does. Does Ansley get in as a member when they first found success? Do you only put in the Escape/Frontiers line up as that was the most successful or do you add in Rolie or do you not add Greg as he's already in with Santana?

What a cluster fuck.

Augeri and Pineda cannot be inducted anyway. It had to be 25 years after your first release, or your release with a band.

All members included on a release prior to 1984 can be in.

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Not to validate half the trash in the hall, but I truly think the band has soiled any chance at getting in the Rock Hall with the singer carousel. This is not a place for airing the problems and merits of each replacement singer, but it's just so laughable to an objective, outside observer. They probably don't deserve to get in any more.

You would have to choose who would actually be getting inducted. Do you tell Augeri no since he didn't have much record selling success with them but Pineda yes even though he doesn't have the years with the band that S.A. does. Does Ansley get in as a member when they first found success? Do you only put in the Escape/Frontiers line up as that was the most successful or do you add in Rolie or do you not add Greg as he's already in with Santana?

What a cluster fuck.

Augeri and Pineda cannot be inducted anyway. It had to be 25 years after your first release, or your release with a band.

All members included on a release prior to 1984 can be in.

Are you sure? It looks like a gray area to me. It does make sense though and would cut Journey's members list in half. I was trying to calculate if that would have effected Schon going in with Santana but it looks like he would have made the cut off by a year or two if that was the case.

Gunbot wrote:

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think Journey doesn't get into the HOF until they and Perry come to terms. The Hall is all about marketability and if they think Perry will be a no-show at the induction ceremony, I believe the powers that be won't even consider letting the band in.

Not to validate half the trash in the hall, but I truly think the band has soiled any chance at getting in the Rock Hall with the singer carousel. This is not a place for airing the problems and merits of each replacement singer, but it's just so laughable to an objective, outside observer. They probably don't deserve to get in any more.

You would have to choose who would actually be getting inducted. Do you tell Augeri no since he didn't have much record selling success with them but Pineda yes even though he doesn't have the years with the band that S.A. does. Does Ansley get in as a member when they first found success? Do you only put in the Escape/Frontiers line up as that was the most successful or do you add in Rolie or do you not add Greg as he's already in with Santana?

What a cluster fuck.

Augeri and Pineda cannot be inducted anyway. It had to be 25 years after your first release, or your release with a band.

All members included on a release prior to 1984 can be in.

Are you sure? It looks like a gray area to me. It does make sense though and would cut Journey's members list in half. I was trying to calculate if that would have effected Schon going in with Santana but it looks like he would have made the cut off by a year or two if that was the case.

If Arnel doesn't get in, I say no way!