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YoungJRNY wrote:Just had the thought to check SteveAugeri.com. I wasn't expecting to see what it read since I haven't heard TOO much on him lately. World Tour in '10, SWEET! Who's there?
http://www.steveaugeri.com/
YoungJRNY wrote:Just had the thought to check SteveAugeri.com. I wasn't expecting to see what it read since I haven't heard TOO much on him lately. World Tour in '10, SWEET! Who's there?
http://www.steveaugeri.com/
ScarabGator wrote:I'm there and Steve knows I'm there!!!! Damn I wish he were still the Journey singer over what they have today.
YoungJRNY wrote:Just had the thought to check SteveAugeri.com. I wasn't expecting to see what it read since I haven't heard TOO much on him lately. World Tour in '10, SWEET! Who's there?
http://www.steveaugeri.com/
ScarabGator wrote:I'm there and Steve knows I'm there!!!! Damn I wish he were still the Journey singer over what they have today.
brywool wrote:ScarabGator wrote:I'm there and Steve knows I'm there!!!! Damn I wish he were still the Journey singer over what they have today.
I don't. I prefer to hear a guy that can actually hit the notes and has some energy on stage. I love Augeri and I had the first TS album since it came out and I was psyched when he got the Journey gig, but live with Journey, it was just a really difficult gig for him. He just didn't have the power and range that the 'what they have today' guy does.
"That gig was always tough for him"- that from a mutual voice teacher.
His recorded output was great though and I will be glad to hear him with new stuff. The last Tall Stories album was "okay" but not as good as the first to me. I still bought it and will support the guy because he's a good singer and a class act. It will be nice for him to do songs written for his range and I'm sure it will be a cool album.
YoungJRNY wrote:Just had the thought to check SteveAugeri.com. I wasn't expecting to see what it read since I haven't heard TOO much on him lately. World Tour in '10, SWEET! Who's there?
http://www.steveaugeri.com/
kgdjpubs wrote:That means a European tour and maybe 1-2 warm-up dates in the US before he goes overseas. Don't expect a 30-date stateside tour--sad to say, he doesn't have the following to support it.
Gunbot wrote:I wonder how many Journey songs he will include in the setlist? I would think at least two or three.
DrFU wrote:Gunbot wrote:I wonder how many Journey songs he will include in the setlist? I would think at least two or three.
I think we may all be in for a surprise.
He's said before that he considered himself more Robert Plant-ish than Perry-ish before the Journey gig came along; he also mentioned at Firefest last year to some of us talking in the bar that his solo stuff seemed to him to be coming out pretty different from either Tall Stories or Journey.
Bring it on, whatever it is; I couldn't be happier for him, and can't wait to be there -- front row.
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:kgdjpubs wrote:That means a European tour and maybe 1-2 warm-up dates in the US before he goes overseas. Don't expect a 30-date stateside tour--sad to say, he doesn't have the following to support it.
How do you figure that he doesn't have U.S. fan support, but he has enough European fan support for a full European Tour? That makes no sense. Journey toured WAY less in Europe during his tenure than they did the States.
brywool wrote:DrFU wrote:Gunbot wrote:I wonder how many Journey songs he will include in the setlist? I would think at least two or three.
I think we may all be in for a surprise.
He's said before that he considered himself more Robert Plant-ish than Perry-ish before the Journey gig came along; he also mentioned at Firefest last year to some of us talking in the bar that his solo stuff seemed to him to be coming out pretty different from either Tall Stories or Journey.
Bring it on, whatever it is; I couldn't be happier for him, and can't wait to be there -- front row.
That last TS album was much more bluesy than what he did with TS prior or Journey. Hopefully, there's some of that.
Jana wrote:brywool wrote:DrFU wrote:Gunbot wrote:I wonder how many Journey songs he will include in the setlist? I would think at least two or three.
I think we may all be in for a surprise.
He's said before that he considered himself more Robert Plant-ish than Perry-ish before the Journey gig came along; he also mentioned at Firefest last year to some of us talking in the bar that his solo stuff seemed to him to be coming out pretty different from either Tall Stories or Journey.
Bring it on, whatever it is; I couldn't be happier for him, and can't wait to be there -- front row.
That last TS album was much more bluesy than what he did with TS prior or Journey. Hopefully, there's some of that.
I read that a lot of those songs were older songs already written. Were they recorded also much earlier? His voice sounds strong and clear, much better than Arrival, though the songs aren't as good as Arrival. And I wondered if it's b/c it was mostly recorded pre Journey or after he stopped singing the taxing Journey classic songs and rested his voice, and then recorded these more recently.
Luvsaugeri wrote:ScarabGator wrote:I'm there and Steve knows I'm there!!!! Damn I wish he were still the Journey singer over what they have today.
+1
I'll be there for sure!!!
brywool wrote:DrFU wrote:Gunbot wrote:I wonder how many Journey songs he will include in the setlist? I would think at least two or three.
I think we may all be in for a surprise.
He's said before that he considered himself more Robert Plant-ish than Perry-ish before the Journey gig came along; he also mentioned at Firefest last year to some of us talking in the bar that his solo stuff seemed to him to be coming out pretty different from either Tall Stories or Journey.
Bring it on, whatever it is; I couldn't be happier for him, and can't wait to be there -- front row.
That last TS album was much more bluesy than what he did with TS prior or Journey. Hopefully, there's some of that.
ScarabGator wrote:although I didnt see the final tour for him I did see him numerous times in the mid 2000's. I thought he was great on stage. Hell, my entire party thought he sounded great!
brywool wrote:ScarabGator wrote:although I didnt see the final tour for him I did see him numerous times in the mid 2000's. I thought he was great on stage. Hell, my entire party thought he sounded great!
I don't want to rag on him because I like him, but honestly, yours and my concert experience differ greatly- I saw him at the Gorge during one of his earliest tours (with Foreigner when Lou was still there). When Augeri went for the high B note in "Don't Stop Believin'" ('somewhere in the niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight'), he did it with this airy falsetto that just did not cut it at all. It had no balls, and the pitch was horrendous. I was really let down by it actually, but I supported Steve until the very end. I still do. Even supported him through TG. I could TOTALLY see how that situation could've happened. I felt sorry as Hell for him during that time. He just wasn't up to it vocally. His sense of live pitch was also not great as I've mentioned a million times. I figured he must've just had a bad night at that Gorge show... Then I heard subsequent boots (of which I have many) and his pitch and power just never improved. The fact is that his voice was not up to touring doing Journey's material and that was proven. It's too bad that it was proven in public with such a humiliating circumstance. As for stage mannerisms, to me he came off too laid back for Journey. Journey needs a front guy that's more engaging. Having said that, the guy is one of the classiest 'stars' to ever come along. A really good guy. It just wasn't a good live gig for him. The albums were great though.
With Arnel (yeah, you knew I'd go there)- I've heard him sing pretty much everything that Augeri had to sing with the exception of some Generations and Arrival tracks. As a vocalist, I'm a lot more impressed by what AP brings to the party. Accent issues aside, (and I think many are exaggerating those things) the guy's voice is flat out huge and it's got balls to match. He's singing THE toughest catalog in rock and doing it much better than either of his predecessors could hope (not talking about Perry here- settle down Portland!). I've also heard him sing other stuff that just is amazing. "Alone" by Heart? Are you kidding me??? The lyrics might've not been translated corectly, but the notes most certainly were. Arnel got my respect the second I heard about him and watched those clips. I KNEW that he'd be good for Journey and Neal Schon was no fool to contact him immediately. That has been proven in spades.
The media LOVES this guy. They love his story. They love that he's taken Journey up a notch from where it had fallen. That is great for Journey- which by the way, is also not bad for Perry or Augeri either. What's good for Journey is good for them.
I'll say it again- Just because Perry ain't here, doesn't mean you can't love what Arnel brings to Journey. Arnel is taking nothing away from Perry (or Augeri). He's good enough to make his own name. Yeah yeah... without Perry there'd be no Arnel. No kidding. That has nothing to do with it. The guy IS a killer singer and he gets my respect just for that.
brywool wrote:ScarabGator wrote:although I didnt see the final tour for him I did see him numerous times in the mid 2000's. I thought he was great on stage. Hell, my entire party thought he sounded great!
I don't want to rag on him because I like him, but honestly, yours and my concert experience differ greatly- I saw him at the Gorge during one of his earliest tours (with Foreigner when Lou was still there). When Augeri went for the high B note in "Don't Stop Believin'" ('somewhere in the niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight'), he did it with this airy falsetto that just did not cut it at all. It had no balls, and the pitch was horrendous. I was really let down by it actually, but I supported Steve until the very end. I still do. Even supported him through TG. I could TOTALLY see how that situation could've happened. I felt sorry as Hell for him during that time. He just wasn't up to it vocally. His sense of live pitch was also not great as I've mentioned a million times. I figured he must've just had a bad night at that Gorge show... Then I heard subsequent boots (of which I have many) and his pitch and power just never improved. The fact is that his voice was not up to touring doing Journey's material and that was proven. It's too bad that it was proven in public with such a humiliating circumstance. As for stage mannerisms, to me he came off too laid back for Journey. Journey needs a front guy that's more engaging. Having said that, the guy is one of the classiest 'stars' to ever come along. A really good guy. It just wasn't a good live gig for him. The albums were great though.
With Arnel (yeah, you knew I'd go there)- I've heard him sing pretty much everything that Augeri had to sing with the exception of some Generations and Arrival tracks. As a vocalist, I'm a lot more impressed by what AP brings to the party. Accent issues aside, (and I think many are exaggerating those things) the guy's voice is flat out huge and it's got balls to match. He's singing THE toughest catalog in rock and doing it much better than either of his predecessors could hope (not talking about Perry here- settle down Portland!). I've also heard him sing other stuff that just is amazing. "Alone" by Heart? Are you kidding me??? The lyrics might've not been translated corectly, but the notes most certainly were. Arnel got my respect the second I heard about him and watched those clips. I KNEW that he'd be good for Journey and Neal Schon was no fool to contact him immediately. That has been proven in spades.
The media LOVES this guy. They love his story. They love that he's taken Journey up a notch from where it had fallen. That is great for Journey- which by the way, is also not bad for Perry or Augeri either. What's good for Journey is good for them.
I'll say it again- Just because Perry ain't here, doesn't mean you can't love what Arnel brings to Journey. Arnel is taking nothing away from Perry (or Augeri). He's good enough to make his own name. Yeah yeah... without Perry there'd be no Arnel. No kidding. That has nothing to do with it. The guy IS a killer singer and he gets my respect just for that.
The fact that you constantly crap on him, I just don't get it. Anyway-
Augeri was great for Journey at the time, at least his recordings with the band. Live- I didn't think so. If you take a look at Youtube, that is pretty much proven with most live videos of him with Journey.
Jana wrote:
So right. Arnel's vocals live are really flat-out amazing plus his engaging presence on stage. And before anyone goes on and on how he jumps around too much. , most of those people didn't see him this year. I didn't mind it last year, but he definitely toned it down as he settled into this tour and had a lot more confidence deeper in, and his energy level on stage this year was perfect and always with a great smile.
portland wrote:brywool wrote:ScarabGator wrote:although I didnt see the final tour for him I did see him numerous times in the mid 2000's. I thought he was great on stage. Hell, my entire party thought he sounded great!
I don't want to rag on him because I like him, but honestly, yours and my concert experience differ greatly- I saw him at the Gorge during one of his earliest tours (with Foreigner when Lou was still there). When Augeri went for the high B note in "Don't Stop Believin'" ('somewhere in the niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight'), he did it with this airy falsetto that just did not cut it at all. It had no balls, and the pitch was horrendous. I was really let down by it actually, but I supported Steve until the very end. I still do. Even supported him through TG. I could TOTALLY see how that situation could've happened. I felt sorry as Hell for him during that time. He just wasn't up to it vocally. His sense of live pitch was also not great as I've mentioned a million times. I figured he must've just had a bad night at that Gorge show... Then I heard subsequent boots (of which I have many) and his pitch and power just never improved. The fact is that his voice was not up to touring doing Journey's material and that was proven. It's too bad that it was proven in public with such a humiliating circumstance. As for stage mannerisms, to me he came off too laid back for Journey. Journey needs a front guy that's more engaging. Having said that, the guy is one of the classiest 'stars' to ever come along. A really good guy. It just wasn't a good live gig for him. The albums were great though.
With Arnel (yeah, you knew I'd go there)- I've heard him sing pretty much everything that Augeri had to sing with the exception of some Generations and Arrival tracks. As a vocalist, I'm a lot more impressed by what AP brings to the party. Accent issues aside, (and I think many are exaggerating those things) the guy's voice is flat out huge and it's got balls to match. He's singing THE toughest catalog in rock and doing it much better than either of his predecessors could hope (not talking about Perry here- settle down Portland!). I've also heard him sing other stuff that just is amazing. "Alone" by Heart? Are you kidding me??? The lyrics might've not been translated corectly, but the notes most certainly were. Arnel got my respect the second I heard about him and watched those clips. I KNEW that he'd be good for Journey and Neal Schon was no fool to contact him immediately. That has been proven in spades.
The media LOVES this guy. They love his story. They love that he's taken Journey up a notch from where it had fallen. That is great for Journey- which by the way, is also not bad for Perry or Augeri either. What's good for Journey is good for them.
I'll say it again- Just because Perry ain't here, doesn't mean you can't love what Arnel brings to Journey. Arnel is taking nothing away from Perry (or Augeri). He's good enough to make his own name. Yeah yeah... without Perry there'd be no Arnel. No kidding. That has nothing to do with it. The guy IS a killer singer and he gets my respect just for that.
The fact that you constantly crap on him, I just don't get it. Anyway-
Augeri was great for Journey at the time, at least his recordings with the band. Live- I didn't think so. If you take a look at Youtube, that is pretty much proven with most live videos of him with Journey.
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