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HEY NEAL! Since we were "heard" on the last tour..

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:30 pm
by PianoMan1986
I know that we weren't all there to see the song(s) played live, but even for the sake of youtube footage, I thought it was awesome finally seeing them play One More (since the Augeri era, I think), Higher Place, When You Love A Woman, and the combination of Patiently and Why Can't This Night Go On Forever. Plus seeing them consistently keep a few of the new tunes in the set was cool too.

Point being, what song or songs (I would say picking two would be reasonable, although I know I can't hold myself to that one lol), would you like to push for on the next tour? Things to consider would probably be: what type of show (solo tour, double bill, etc), what would be swapped out in its place...stuff like that.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:04 pm
by slucero
A new album of amazing material, with Arnel slaying us by delivering a Perry-esque writing contribution would be a good start.... and a great jumping off point for them...

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:11 pm
by steveo777
slucero wrote:A new album of amazing material, with Arnel slaying us by delivering a Perry-esque writing contribution would be a good start.... and a great jumping off point for them...


Hopefully they can deliver new material without the fans going to sleep or rioting.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:16 pm
by slucero
agreed.... I'm not expecting anything groundbreaking...

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:31 pm
by steveo777
LOL...Ross is too old to take a beer bottle hit. :lol:

Re: Since we were "heard" somewhat on the last tou

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:07 am
by Since 78
PianoMan1986 wrote:I know that we weren't all there to see the song(s) played live, but even for the sake of youtube footage, I thought it was awesome finally seeing them play One More (since the Augeri era, I think), Higher Place, When You Love A Woman, and the combination of Patiently and Why Can't This Night Go On Forever. Plus seeing them consistently keep a few of the new tunes in the set was cool too.

Point being, what song or songs (I would say picking two would be reasonable, although I know I can't hold myself to that one lol), would you like to push for on the next tour? Things to consider would probably be: what type of show (solo tour, double bill, etc), what would be swapped out in its place...stuff like that.


I for one thought it was cool that the Band paid attention to our request. If they are going to continue though, Id rather they stay away from the Perry era stuff and maybe throw in more Arrival like All the Things, Livin to do. Or Red 13, State of Grace, The Time etc...

Re: Since we were "heard" somewhat on the last tou

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:15 am
by PianoMan1986
Since 78 wrote:
PianoMan1986 wrote:I know that we weren't all there to see the song(s) played live, but even for the sake of youtube footage, I thought it was awesome finally seeing them play One More (since the Augeri era, I think), Higher Place, When You Love A Woman, and the combination of Patiently and Why Can't This Night Go On Forever. Plus seeing them consistently keep a few of the new tunes in the set was cool too.

Point being, what song or songs (I would say picking two would be reasonable, although I know I can't hold myself to that one lol), would you like to push for on the next tour? Things to consider would probably be: what type of show (solo tour, double bill, etc), what would be swapped out in its place...stuff like that.


I for one thought it was cool that the Band paid attention to our request. If they are going to continue though, Id rather they stay away from the Perry era stuff and maybe throw in more Arrival like All the Things, Livin to do. Or Red 13, State of Grace, The Time etc...


Thanks for bringing it back on topic "78."

Re: Since we were "heard" somewhat on the last tou

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:35 am
by Hippie
Since 78 wrote:Id rather they stay away from the Perry era stuff and maybe throw in more Arrival like All the Things, Livin to do. Or Red 13, State of Grace, The Time etc...


More than other songs, I'd LOOOOOVE to hear AP's take on State of Grace! :D

And I agree with "78". Some great tunes on the later albums that'd sound great in concert.

Re: Since we were "heard" somewhat on the last tou

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:24 am
by JRNYFan
Hippie wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Id rather they stay away from the Perry era stuff and maybe throw in more Arrival like All the Things, Livin to do. Or Red 13, State of Grace, The Time etc...


More than other songs, I'd LOOOOOVE to hear AP's take on State of Grace! :D

And I agree with "78". Some great tunes on the later albums that'd sound great in concert.


I would definitely choose 'State of Grace' as my choice for an obscure song to play.

Re: Since we were "heard" somewhat on the last tou

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:34 am
by PianoMan1986
JRNYFan wrote:
Hippie wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Id rather they stay away from the Perry era stuff and maybe throw in more Arrival like All the Things, Livin to do. Or Red 13, State of Grace, The Time etc...


More than other songs, I'd LOOOOOVE to hear AP's take on State of Grace! :D

And I agree with "78". Some great tunes on the later albums that'd sound great in concert.


I would definitely choose 'State of Grace' as my choice for an obscure song to play.


Great song.

Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Deen sing IBAWY at a show or two during the last tour? Maybe it was a different tour.

Re: Since we were "heard" somewhat on the last tou

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:02 am
by steveo777
PianoMan1986 wrote:
JRNYFan wrote:
Hippie wrote:
Since 78 wrote:Id rather they stay away from the Perry era stuff and maybe throw in more Arrival like All the Things, Livin to do. Or Red 13, State of Grace, The Time etc...


More than other songs, I'd LOOOOOVE to hear AP's take on State of Grace! :D

And I agree with "78". Some great tunes on the later albums that'd sound great in concert.


I would definitely choose 'State of Grace' as my choice for an obscure song to play.


Great song.

Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Deen sing IBAWY at a show or two during the last tour? Maybe it was a different tour.


Yes. Hawaii 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP8bShbqgbw

I think a lot of fans like some of the ROR material and I've always wondered why they don't let AP take a shot at more of them.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:12 am
by Jana
If Neal still has a strong voice, I would love People and Places live. I would like to see Precious Time. I would love We Will Meet Again or Live and Breathe and especially World Gone Wild, but at least one of those. I would like to see Chain Reaction played next year, since I don't think they played it at my concert this year. I would like Turn Down the World Tonight. Take out Open Arms and put When You Love a Woman at every show next year. It's a winner live by Arnel. I would like to see some ROR. Put back Stay Awhile at the end of Lights. Put Rubicon in. And keep Still They Ride with Deen next year b/c I want to hear it again. A must have, extended version of What I Needed.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:53 am
by Since 78
Jana wrote:If Neal still has a strong voice, I would love People and Places live. I would like to see Precious Time. I would love We Will Meet Again or Live and Breathe and especially World Gone Wild, but at least one of those. I would like to see Chain Reaction played next year, since I don't think they played it at my concert this year. I would like Turn Down the World Tonight. Take out Open Arms and put When You Love a Woman at every show next year. It's a winner live by Arnel. I would like to see some ROR. Put back Stay Awhile at the end of Lights. Put Rubicon in. And keep Still They Ride with Deen next year b/c I want to hear it again. A must have, extended version of What I Needed.


I agree with everything except Precious Time ( Never have liked that one ) and Still they Ride, Deen does great job, but I would rather hear Suzanne if they going to do something different with him.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:53 am
by Archetype
World Gone Wild would bring the house down

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:57 am
by Jana
Since 78 wrote:
Jana wrote:If Neal still has a strong voice, I would love People and Places live. I would like to see Precious Time. I would love We Will Meet Again or Live and Breathe and especially World Gone Wild, but at least one of those. I would like to see Chain Reaction played next year, since I don't think they played it at my concert this year. I would like Turn Down the World Tonight. Take out Open Arms and put When You Love a Woman at every show next year. It's a winner live by Arnel. I would like to see some ROR. Put back Stay Awhile at the end of Lights. Put Rubicon in. And keep Still They Ride with Deen next year b/c I want to hear it again. A must have, extended version of What I Needed.


I agree with everything except Precious Time ( Never have liked that one ) and Still they Ride, Deen does great job, but I would rather hear Suzanne if they going to do something different with him.


Fantastic idea. I agree. Just refresh and change up that funky, dated intro.

Jeremey changed it up in the beginning last year and updated the song. Really amazing job by Jeremey. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBDiGsWhg6c

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:10 am
by Saint John
Jeremey does a fan-fucking-tastic job on Suzanne. It almost sounds like Perry singing with an Escape-era voice.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:21 pm
by PianoMan1986
Just a recap so far of what's been said so far for suggestions: (no particular order)

People & Places
Precious Time

Lights segue to Stay Awhile

Still They Ride

Chain Reaction
Rubicon

Suzanne

When You Love A Woman

All The Things
Livin' To Do
World Gone Wild
Live and Breathe
We Will Meet Again

State of Grace
The Time

What I Needed
Turn Down The World Tonight

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:56 am
by PianoMan1986
::bump::

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:07 am
by PianoMan1986
I really enjoyed seeing/hearing Ross perform Walks Like A Lady in Milwaukee during the 30th Anniversary Tour. (Still tossing around my own song suggestions)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:09 am
by Ehwmatt
PianoMan1986 wrote:I really enjoyed seeing/hearing Ross perform Walks Like A Lady in Milwaukee during the 30th Anniversary Tour. (Still tossing around my own song suggestions)


It's not every day you see a skeleton playing the blues is it?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:41 am
by 7 Wishes
Mother, Father
Edge of the Blade
Little Girl

Those are my three...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:11 pm
by PianoMan1986
PianoMan1986 wrote:Just a recap so far of what's been said so far for suggestions: (no particular order)

People & Places
Precious Time

Walks Like A Lady
Lights segue to Stay Awhile
Little Girl

Still They Ride
Mother Father

Edge of the Blade
Chain Reaction
Rubicon

Suzanne

When You Love A Woman

All The Things
Livin' To Do
World Gone Wild
Live and Breathe
We Will Meet Again

State of Grace
The Time

What I Needed
Turn Down The World Tonight

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:49 pm
by parfait
Winds of March, After the Fall and It Could Have Been You (don't know if Russ could pull that one off on bass though)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:31 am
by fightingilliniJRNY
parfait wrote:Winds of March, After the Fall and It Could Have Been You (don't know if Russ could pull that one off on bass though)


I think Russ could pull it off. Neil, Johnathan, Dean and Arneal could probably handle it, too.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:00 am
by Ehwmatt
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
parfait wrote:Winds of March, After the Fall and It Could Have Been You (don't know if Russ could pull that one off on bass though)


I think Russ could pull it off. Neil, Johnathan, Dean and Arneal could probably handle it, too.


LOL touché

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:13 am
by Red13JoePa
parfait wrote: It Could Have Been You (don't know if Russ could pull that one off on bass though)



:roll: Yea, Randy Jaxon, the Edward Van Halen of the bass pulls off chords Vaory can only DREAM of.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:20 am
by parfait
Red13JoePa wrote:
parfait wrote: It Could Have Been You (don't know if Russ could pull that one off on bass though)



:roll: Yea, Randy Jaxon, the Edward Van Halen of the bass pulls off chords Vaory can only DREAM of.


I didn't say that, nimrod.

But Ross Valory is a mediocre bass player at best, even Herbie said that. He could never have pulled off the mean ass groove Jackson did. There's a reason Valory is way down in the live mix.

And dead people don't DREAM btw.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:33 am
by Red13JoePa
parfait wrote: There's a reason Valory is way down in the live mix.



Yea because bass is mostly about being subtle and holding together the bottom of a song, something Valory's style fit to Journey since inception save for the time perry the producer made the band fire him in favor of his personal bassists who's idea of suble was a pink polka dot bass, David Puddy's 8-Ball jacket and a Gumby hairstyle and playing lound thumpy bumpy bass lines.

He did add something different, I won't TOTALLY dismiss his contributions but since then I think Valory has ably covered his parts.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:28 am
by PianoMan1986
PianoMan1986 wrote:Just a recap so far of what's been said so far for suggestions: (no particular order)

Winds of March

People & Places
Precious Time

Walks Like A Lady
Lights segue to Stay Awhile
Little Girl

Still They Ride
Mother Father

After the Fall
Edge of the Blade
Chain Reaction
Rubicon

Suzanne
It Could Have Been You

When You Love A Woman

All The Things
Livin' To Do
World Gone Wild
Live and Breathe
We Will Meet Again

State of Grace
The Time

What I Needed
Turn Down The World Tonight

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:36 am
by Michigan Girl
Red13JoePa wrote:
parfait wrote: There's a reason Valory is way down in the live mix.



Yea because bass is mostly about being subtle and holding together the bottom of a song, something Valory's style fit to Journey since inception save for the time perry the producer made the band fire him in favor of his personal bassists who's idea of suble was a pink polka dot bass, David Puddy's 8-Ball jacket and a Gumby hairstyle and playing lound thumpy bumpy bass lines.

He did add something different, I won't TOTALLY dismiss his contributions but since then I think Valory has ably covered his parts.


I'm LMAO here and adding a 1...probably the only thing we've ever agreed on, but it's a goody!! :wink: