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Said he was heading back to San Francisco to start writing with Jon for new Journey cd!

perryswoman wrote:Said he was heading back to San Francisco to start writing with Jon for new Journey cd!

Link please.

perryswoman wrote:Said he was heading back to San Francisco to start writing with Jon for new Journey cd!

Just now? I thought Neal and Arnel had been writing on the road.

I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

It's ok, I believe you. This is not exactly earth shattering news, as this has been planned and talked about for some time.

steveo777 wrote:

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

It's ok, I believe you. This is not exactly earth shattering news, as this has been planned and talked about for some time.

LOL. Yes I didn't think it was earth shattering either but nice to hear Neal comment about it.

perryswoman wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

It's ok, I believe you. This is not exactly earth shattering news, as this has been planned and talked about for some time.

LOL. Yes I didn't think it was earth shattering either but nice to hear Neal comment about it.

Yes, communication from Neal is always nice.

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

Can you at least gimme a hint as to which Neal Schon he is so I can friend him? There's about a dozen Neal Schon's on there & I don't wanna friend some obsessed, Hannibal Lecter "I wanna wear Neal's skin as a coat" kind of creepo.

Thanks.

JasonD wrote:

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

Can you at least gimme a hint as to which Neal Schon he is so I can friend him? There's about a dozen Neal Schon's on there & I don't wanna friend some obsessed, Hannibal Lecter "I wanna wear Neal's skin as a coat" kind of creepo.

Thanks.

LOL. Yes he is the Neal with 5001 friends. Has a black and white picture.

JasonD wrote:

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

Can you at least gimme a hint as to which Neal Schon he is so I can friend him? There's about a dozen Neal Schon's on there & I don't wanna friend some obsessed, Hannibal Lecter "I wanna wear Neal's skin as a coat" kind of creepo.

Thanks.

It rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again.

perryswoman wrote:

JasonD wrote:

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

Can you at least gimme a hint as to which Neal Schon he is so I can friend him? There's about a dozen Neal Schon's on there & I don't wanna friend some obsessed, Hannibal Lecter "I wanna wear Neal's skin as a coat" kind of creepo.

Thanks.

LOL. Yes he is the Neal with 5001 friends. Has a black and white picture.

Duh, I guess I could have looked for the Neal Schon with something like a ba-zillion friends. Forgive me. I'm new to Facebook & I'm feeling dumber about it everyday. One of my close buds recently said to me, "Dude, Facebook? Really? Isn't that for teenagers? Just pick up the phone & call me. It's much easier." I see his point.... but I don't necessarily agree with it. I'm drifting the conversation here a little, but I find it interesting the different perceptions people have about Facebook. Some people say, "I only friend the people I know in real life b/c the world's full of nutjobs & why would I want to 'talk' with people I don't even know?" Other people,... (I fall into this second category).... feel like, "Why friend the people I know in real life when I see them every day? And if I don't actually see them, I at least have contact with them via cell phone." Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

JasonD wrote:

perryswoman wrote:

JasonD wrote:

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

Can you at least gimme a hint as to which Neal Schon he is so I can friend him? There's about a dozen Neal Schon's on there & I don't wanna friend some obsessed, Hannibal Lecter "I wanna wear Neal's skin as a coat" kind of creepo.

Thanks.

LOL. Yes he is the Neal with 5001 friends. Has a black and white picture.

Duh, I guess I could have looked for the Neal Schon with something like a ba-zillion friends. Forgive me. I'm new to Facebook & I'm feeling dumber about it everyday. One of my close buds recently said to me, "Dude, Facebook? Really? Isn't that for teenagers? Just pick up the phone & call me. It's much easier." I see his point.... but I don't necessarily agree with it. I'm drifting the conversation here a little, but I find it interesting the different perceptions people have about Facebook. Some people say, "I only friend the people I know in real life b/c the world's full of nutjobs & why would I want to 'talk' with people I don't even know?" Other people,... (I fall into this second category).... feel like, "Why friend the people I know in real life when I see them every day? And if I don't actually see them, I at least have contact with them via cell phone." Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

I feel kinda the same way. Don't do hardly any chatting on facebook but with a few old high school friends but do like to watch what Neal posts lol. Actually I just rechecked and he has 4999 friends so he must have booted 2 of them today lol!!

perryswoman wrote:

JasonD wrote:

perryswoman wrote:

JasonD wrote:

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

Can you at least gimme a hint as to which Neal Schon he is so I can friend him? There's about a dozen Neal Schon's on there & I don't wanna friend some obsessed, Hannibal Lecter "I wanna wear Neal's skin as a coat" kind of creepo.

Thanks.

LOL. Yes he is the Neal with 5001 friends. Has a black and white picture.

Duh, I guess I could have looked for the Neal Schon with something like a ba-zillion friends. Forgive me. I'm new to Facebook & I'm feeling dumber about it everyday. One of my close buds recently said to me, "Dude, Facebook? Really? Isn't that for teenagers? Just pick up the phone & call me. It's much easier." I see his point.... but I don't necessarily agree with it. I'm drifting the conversation here a little, but I find it interesting the different perceptions people have about Facebook. Some people say, "I only friend the people I know in real life b/c the world's full of nutjobs & why would I want to 'talk' with people I don't even know?" Other people,... (I fall into this second category).... feel like, "Why friend the people I know in real life when I see them every day? And if I don't actually see them, I at least have contact with them via cell phone." Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

I feel kinda the same way. Don't do hardly any chatting on facebook but with a few old high school friends but do like to watch what Neal posts lol. Actually I just rechecked and he has 4999 friends so he must have booted 2 of them today lol!!

He had posted something about being over his friend limit!!!

perryswoman wrote:

JasonD wrote:

perryswoman wrote:

JasonD wrote:

perryswoman wrote:I don't think I can link it. You have to be one of his friends to read I think?

Can you at least gimme a hint as to which Neal Schon he is so I can friend him? There's about a dozen Neal Schon's on there & I don't wanna friend some obsessed, Hannibal Lecter "I wanna wear Neal's skin as a coat" kind of creepo.

Thanks.

LOL. Yes he is the Neal with 5001 friends. Has a black and white picture.

Duh, I guess I could have looked for the Neal Schon with something like a ba-zillion friends. Forgive me. I'm new to Facebook & I'm feeling dumber about it everyday. One of my close buds recently said to me, "Dude, Facebook? Really? Isn't that for teenagers? Just pick up the phone & call me. It's much easier." I see his point.... but I don't necessarily agree with it. I'm drifting the conversation here a little, but I find it interesting the different perceptions people have about Facebook. Some people say, "I only friend the people I know in real life b/c the world's full of nutjobs & why would I want to 'talk' with people I don't even know?" Other people,... (I fall into this second category).... feel like, "Why friend the people I know in real life when I see them every day? And if I don't actually see them, I at least have contact with them via cell phone." Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

I feel kinda the same way. Don't do hardly any chatting on facebook but with a few old high school friends but do like to watch what Neal posts lol. Actually I just rechecked and he has 4999 friends so he must have booted 2 of them today lol!!

2 of them were probably Steve Perry imposters! I can just hear it from Neal. Both of you guys can't be named Steve Perry......you're outta here!

He also added "It will be a rocker I promise" so let's hope so!

perryswoman wrote:He also added "It will be a rocker I promise" so let's hope so!

Some of every album rockers, then Cain pokes his head in. Since I somehow can't see Neal coming up with a bunch of ballads, Cain has to be the culprit.

steveo777 wrote:

perryswoman wrote:He also added "It will be a rocker I promise" so let's hope so!

Some of every album rockers, then Cain pokes his head in. Since I somehow can't see Neal coming up with a bunch of ballads, Cain has to be the culprit.

yes I would say you are right about that but we need a couple of ballads!!

I'm expecting a double album.

perryswoman wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

perryswoman wrote:He also added "It will be a rocker I promise" so let's hope so!

Some of every album rockers, then Cain pokes his head in. Since I somehow can't see Neal coming up with a bunch of ballads, Cain has to be the culprit.

yes I would say you are right about that but we need a couple of ballads!!

When it comes to ballads you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that does them better than Journey.

steveo777 wrote:

perryswoman wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

perryswoman wrote:He also added "It will be a rocker I promise" so let's hope so!

Some of every album rockers, then Cain pokes his head in. Since I somehow can't see Neal coming up with a bunch of ballads, Cain has to be the culprit.

yes I would say you are right about that but we need a couple of ballads!!

When it comes to ballads you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that does them better than Journey.

Tru dat. Luv What I Needed and Turn Down The World. After All These Years not so much

perryswoman wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

perryswoman wrote:He also added "It will be a rocker I promise" so let's hope so!

Some of every album rockers, then Cain pokes his head in. Since I somehow can't see Neal coming up with a bunch of ballads, Cain has to be the culprit.

yes I would say you are right about that but we need a couple of ballads!!

Schon does ballads. I think he just doesn't like the album to be ballad heavy. I remember K. Shirley saying when Neal complained about the ballads on Arrival, KS said something to the effect "look whose name is all over them"

Arrival songwriters again.

1. "Higher Place" Jack Blades, Neal Schon 5:10
2. "All the Way" Schon, Jonathan Cain, Michael Rhodes, Steve Augeri 3:35
3. "Signs of Life" Schon, J. Cain, Elizabeth Cain 4:54
4. "All the Things" Schon, Cain, Andre Pessis 4:24
5. "Loved By You" Cain, Tammy Hyler, Tribble 4:03
6. "Livin' to Do" Schon, Matt Schon, Cain, Tribble 6:25
7. "World Gone Wild" Blades, Schon, Cain 6:00
8. "I Got a Reason" Blades, Schon, Cain 4:20
9. "With Your Love" Schon, J. Cain, E. Cain 4:25
10. "Lifetime of Dreams" Schon, Cain, Tribble 5:29
11. "Live and Breathe" Schon, Cain, Augeri 5:15
12. "Nothin' Comes Close" Schon, Cain, Augeri 5:41
13. "To Be Alive Again" Cain, Augeri, Tribble, Eric Bazilian 4:22
14. "Kiss Me Softly" Blades, Schon, Augeri 4:48
15. "We Will Meet Again" Schon, Augeri, Tribble 5:06

Schon writing credits - 13
Cain writing credits - 13

RocknRoll wrote:

perryswoman wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

perryswoman wrote:He also added "It will be a rocker I promise" so let's hope so!

Some of every album rockers, then Cain pokes his head in. Since I somehow can't see Neal coming up with a bunch of ballads, Cain has to be the culprit.

yes I would say you are right about that but we need a couple of ballads!!

Schon does ballads. I think he just doesn't like the album to be ballad heavy. I remember K. Shirley saying when Neal complained about the ballads on Arrival, KS said something to the effect "look whose name is all over them"

Arrival songwriters again.

1. "Higher Place" Jack Blades, Neal Schon 5:10
2. "All the Way" Schon, Jonathan Cain, Michael Rhodes, Steve Augeri 3:35





3. "Signs of Life" Schon, J. Cain, Elizabeth Cain 4:54
4. "All the Things" Schon, Cain, Andre Pessis 4:24
5. "Loved By You" Cain, Tammy Hyler, Tribble 4:03
6. "Livin' to Do" Schon, Matt Schon, Cain, Tribble 6:25
7. "World Gone Wild" Blades, Schon, Cain 6:00
8. "I Got a Reason" Blades, Schon, Cain 4:20
9. "With Your Love" Schon, J. Cain, E. Cain 4:25
10. "Lifetime of Dreams" Schon, Cain, Tribble 5:29
11. "Live and Breathe" Schon, Cain, Augeri 5:15
12. "Nothin' Comes Close" Schon, Cain, Augeri 5:41
13. "To Be Alive Again" Cain, Augeri, Tribble, Eric Bazilian 4:22
14. "Kiss Me Softly" Blades, Schon, Augeri 4:48
15. "We Will Meet Again" Schon, Augeri, Tribble 5:06

Schon writing credits - 13
Cain writing credits - 13

Of course he doesnt want to admit that. That would take away form his rokcer image lol!!

steveo777 wrote:

perryswoman wrote:Said he was heading back to San Francisco to start writing with Jon for new Journey cd!

Just now? I thought Neal and Arnel had been writing on the road.

Doesn't everyone, every band, say that? Humming into a recorder, doing acoustic chord changes, tossing around lyrics, etc. Isn't that enough to throw a tidbit at the fans by saying "we're writing" while on the road?

And take this "heading back to SF for a new cd" thing with a huge grain of rock salt too. Just because someone is playing with ideas doesn't necessarily mean that they're doing real writing. Maybe there are sketches & drafts, but until they get into studio in album mode with a producer, I wouldn't get your nads in a pump.


later~

No mention of Pineda. Perhaps they'll still drop his name on a few credits just to appease his fans. It's not like there are monster royalties coming from any of Journey songs written after 1986 anyway.

What about Neal's solo album or his first ever solo tour? Talk seems to have died down about those endeavors.

Gunbot wrote:No mention of Pineda. Perhaps they'll still drop his name on a few credits just to appease his fans. It's not like there are monster royalties coming from any of Journey songs written after 1986 anyway.

What about Neal's solo album or his first ever solo tour? Talk seems to have died down about those endeavors.

So, are you already making an excuse in case Arnel does write something really good for the new CD? As I remember that was your criteria for him being more than just a good sound alike and getting credit as a contributor.

As far as a mention of Arnel, I thought Neal brought up a while ago that he and Arnel were writing. Now he is writing with Cain allegedly, one doesn't discount the other.

Since 78 wrote:

Gunbot wrote:No mention of Pineda. Perhaps they'll still drop his name on a few credits just to appease his fans. It's not like there are monster royalties coming from any of Journey songs written after 1986 anyway.

What about Neal's solo album or his first ever solo tour? Talk seems to have died down about those endeavors.

So, are you already making an excuse in case Arnel does write something really good for the new CD? As I remember that was your criteria for him being more than just a good sound alike and getting credit as a contributor.

As far as a mention of Arnel, I thought Neal brought up a while ago that he and Arnel were writing. Now he is writing with Cain allegedly, one doesn't discount the other.

I don't need to make an excuse for him. I listened to his original music and know what to expect from him in that department. If you remember in the interviews where Cain has talked about creating music with Perry, lyrics were only half the game with them. There magic came from constructing a melody around what they were writing also. I would think being in the same room together, writing a song and composing it at the same time is where you are going to get the best collaborations.
As far as criteria for contributing, I would hold any singer to the same standard. I noticed right away that Kelly Hansen had at least 10 writing credits on Foreigner's new album. if he hadn't I would have been critical of it.

I don't give Arnel credit for anything the band achieved before his tenure, the same way I don't give Augeri any credit for anything Pre-Arrival. Besides their voices, the only thing they can bring to the band is their writing ability and that is what I judge them on. I'm not giving therm extra credit for saving the band, blowing their voice out, being homeless, etc. That has nothing to do with Journey's legacy as far as I'm concerned.

Gunbot wrote:

Since 78 wrote:

Gunbot wrote:No mention of Pineda. Perhaps they'll still drop his name on a few credits just to appease his fans. It's not like there are monster royalties coming from any of Journey songs written after 1986 anyway.

What about Neal's solo album or his first ever solo tour? Talk seems to have died down about those endeavors.

So, are you already making an excuse in case Arnel does write something really good for the new CD? As I remember that was your criteria for him being more than just a good sound alike and getting credit as a contributor.

As far as a mention of Arnel, I thought Neal brought up a while ago that he and Arnel were writing. Now he is writing with Cain allegedly, one doesn't discount the other.

I don't need to make an excuse for him. I listened to his original music and know what to expect from him in that department. If you remember in the interviews where Cain has talked about creating music with Perry, lyrics were only half the game with them. There magic came from constructing a melody around what they were writing also.
As far as criteria for contributing, I would hold any singer to the same standard. I noticed right away that Kelly Hansen had at least 10 writing credits on Foreigner's new album. if he hadn't I would have been critical of it.

I don't give Arnel credit for anything the band achieved before his tenure, the same way I don't give Augeri any credit for anything Pre-Arrival. Besides their voices, the only thing they can bring to the band is their writing ability and that is what I judge them on. I'm not giving therm extra credit for saving the band, blowing their voice out, being homeless, etc. That has nothing to do with Journey's legacy as far as I'm concerned.

I think you missed my point, your stating that "Perhaps they'll still drop his name on a few credits just to appease his fans" seems to me, it gives you a way out in admitting that he did contribute something to the new CD, especially if its really good. I just want to be clear on your meaning.

perryswoman wrote:He also added "It will be a rocker I promise" so let's hope so!

I hope so, but we've heard that before...

Let's just see what happens. This had better be good. This is an important album for Journey going forward, or else they can just continue to cater to the peeps who only care about the dirty dozen....and the Asian market.

steveo777 wrote:Let's just see what happens. This had better be good. This is an important album for Journey going forward, or else they can just continue to cater to the peeps who only care about the dirty dozen....and the Asian market.

Bravo!!