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At the High School I coach at our seniors recently performed their senior play. Before the play began and for the introduction they played a video showing the students that were acting in the play. While doing this one of the songs playing during the video was Journey's 'Dont Stop Believin'. " I promise you 99% of the people in the auditorium young and old, black, hispanic, asian & white knew the song and were singing along while this portion of the video was playing. It was incredible to witness.

Our school did around 15 performances My family and I saw two of them. This went on at both performances and from what the drama teacher told me at every performance. They performed the play for all the campuses. My young son and daughter said all the kids at their schools sang along, and this was the 'funnest part of the play'.

I swear everyone knows and loves this song.

Is there another song from any era that has the same effect?

There is NO doubt in my mind it is the most loved song EVER.

This alone should put Journey in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.

It does have that effect, Yogi...people just can't help themselves, feet start tapping, heads start bobbing
and before you know it you're in full blown believin' mode. Nice Story!!

While DSB, is up there, I'm going to say that We Will Rock You/ We Are The Champions, Bohemian Rhapsody, Born To Be Wild and Wild Thing may rank a little bit higher on the chart of universally recognizable tunes. I'll start a thread on the subject.

Yesterday has like, 3000 recorded cover versions or some incredible number.

yogi wrote:
This alone should put Journey in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.

Yeah, a bunch of jokers who spit in the face of rock n roll by faking it for 2 to 3 years deserves to get recognition. The only way they get close to the Rock n Roll HOF is to play the local theater in Cleveland. NO WAY do they get in, never, ever.

Rockindeano wrote:

yogi wrote:
This alone should put Journey in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.

Yeah, a bunch of jokers who spit in the face of rock n roll by faking it for 2 to 3 years deserves to get recognition. The only way they get close to the Rock n Roll HOF is to play the local theater in Cleveland. NO WAY do they get in, never, ever.

Maybe but, who cares?

Fuck the Rock and Roll Hall of Lame. Grandmaster Flash is in there.

GET IT OUT! It's a joke.

madsplash wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

yogi wrote:
This alone should put Journey in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.

Yeah, a bunch of jokers who spit in the face of rock n roll by faking it for 2 to 3 years deserves to get recognition. The only way they get close to the Rock n Roll HOF is to play the local theater in Cleveland. NO WAY do they get in, never, ever.

Maybe but, who cares?

Fuck the Rock and Roll Hall of Lame. Grandmaster Flash is in there.

GET IT OUT! It's a joke.

You're right, it is a joke. Plus Madonna got in and she's lip-synched a lot of her career in concert, not so much these last few concerts.

DSB is the most popular song in The United States. Everyone knows it. Cain's architecture of this song and Perry's vocals are simply incredible.

Saint John wrote:DSB is the most popular song in The United States. Everyone knows it. Cain's architecture of this song and Perry's vocals are simply incredible.

Even with all that is happening with this song Perry still sits and does nothing.
JRNY would be on top of the world again right now if Perry was back in the band..
But nope still making empty promises,
Yea I will perform in scotland yea right Steve another lie.

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:DSB is the most popular song in The United States. Everyone knows it. Cain's architecture of this song and Perry's vocals are simply incredible.

Even with all this that is happening with this song Perry still sits and does nothing.
JRNY would be on top of the world again right now if Perry was back in the band..
But nope still making empty promises,
Yea I will perform in scotland yea right Steve another lie.

When did he say he'll perform in Scotland?!?!

Saint John wrote:

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:DSB is the most popular song in The United States. Everyone knows it. Cain's architecture of this song and Perry's vocals are simply incredible.

Even with all this that is happening with this song Perry still sits and does nothing.
JRNY would be on top of the world again right now if Perry was back in the band..
But nope still making empty promises,
Yea I will perform in scotland yea right Steve another lie.

When did he say he'll perform in Scotland?!?!

In the interview he said I would love to come to Scotland and perform
He said seriously I would.

Why make a bold face lie like that.?

He will never even set foot there .

If Perry was still in the band, the "forthcoming album" would be dust in the wind and Journey would never, ever tour again.

He's the reason I went into music 25 years ago. He may have "held the keys to the customized Harley," but I don't miss him anymore. Pineda has saved this band.

7 Wishes wrote:If Perry was still in the band, the "forthcoming album" would be dust in the wind and Journey would never, ever tour again.

He's the reason I went into music 25 years ago. He may have "held the keys to the customized Harley," but I don't miss him anymore. Pineda has saved this band.[/q

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I know he sings great but Pineda is just a fillin just like Gowan and all the rest.
Steve Perry should be singing with JRNY but he is just too messed up in the head.
He can't even listen to himself sing anymore what the hell is that.
The man needs some help, Mommy is gone and he has nobody to turn to.
If she was here she would say Damnit Steve get your ass out there and sing

Saint John wrote:

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:DSB is the most popular song in The United States. Everyone knows it. Cain's architecture of this song and Perry's vocals are simply incredible.

Even with all this that is happening with this song Perry still sits and does nothing.
JRNY would be on top of the world again right now if Perry was back in the band..
But nope still making empty promises,
Yea I will perform in scotland yea right Steve another lie.

When did he say he'll perform in Scotland?!?!

In the interview he said I would love to come to Scotland and perform
He said seriously I would.

Why make a bold face lie like that.?

He will never even set foot there .

froy wrote:

7 Wishes wrote:If Perry was still in the band, the "forthcoming album" would be dust in the wind and Journey would never, ever tour again.

He's the reason I went into music 25 years ago. He may have "held the keys to the customized Harley," but I don't miss him anymore. Pineda has saved this band.[/q

I know he sings great but Pineda is just a fillin just like Gowan and all the rest.
Steve Perry should be singing with JRNY but he is just too messed up in the head.
He can't even listen to himself sing anymore what the hell is that.
The man needs some help, Mommy is gone and he has nobody to turn to.
If she was here she would say Damnit Steve get your ass out there and sing

You just have to believe that after all these years Herbie was right when he said "He's gone to all of the best vocal coaches in the world and he's just got nothing left. There's nothing there." Herbie seems to be a straight shooter, like him or not.

[quote][quote="Saint John"][quote="froy"][quote][quote="7 Wishes"]If Perry was still in the band, the "forthcoming album" would be dust in the wind and Journey would never, ever tour again.

why is this double posting?

Saint John wrote:

froy wrote:

7 Wishes wrote:If Perry was still in the band, the "forthcoming album" would be dust in the wind and Journey would never, ever tour again.

He's the reason I went into music 25 years ago. He may have "held the keys to the customized Harley," but I don't miss him anymore. Pineda has saved this band.[/q

I know he sings great but Pineda is just a fillin just like Gowan and all the rest.
Steve Perry should be singing with JRNY but he is just too messed up in the head.
He can't even listen to himself sing anymore what the hell is that.
The man needs some help, Mommy is gone and he has nobody to turn to.
If she was here she would say Damnit Steve get your ass out there and sing

You just have to believe that after all these years Herbie was right when he said "He's gone to all of the best vocal coaches in the world and he's just got nothing left. There's nothing there." Herbie seems to be a straight shooter, like him or not.

The problem St John is Perry needs to sing for about a year straight.
His voice is stale and his cords are dead.
He sucked opening night in Milwaukee on the Strange Journey tour
3 months later in LA the guys voice warmed up and and man he was firing much better.
He just won't work through this live, He yells his songs and does not just sing them from the gut,
He would have to sing alone day after day week after week month after month to get that voice opened up.
Not going to happen to lazy at this point to much effort .

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:DSB is the most popular song in The United States. Everyone knows it. Cain's architecture of this song and Perry's vocals are simply incredible.

Even with all this that is happening with this song Perry still sits and does nothing.
JRNY would be on top of the world again right now if Perry was back in the band..
But nope still making empty promises,
Yea I will perform in scotland yea right Steve another lie.

When did he say he'll perform in Scotland?!?!

In the interview he said I would love to come to Scotland and perform
He said seriously I would.

Why make a bold face lie like that.?

He will never even set foot there .

What is wrong with you? He spoke at length of how he wanted to be a DJ as a child and at a very young age used to practice his timing. SP was invited to Scotland by the interviewer to GUEST DJ on a show where they have had other celebrities do the same, not sing. So before you go calling someone a liar, why don't you pay attention and get your facts straight?

SherriBerry wrote:

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:DSB is the most popular song in The United States. Everyone knows it. Cain's architecture of this song and Perry's vocals are simply incredible.

Even with all this that is happening with this song Perry still sits and does nothing.
JRNY would be on top of the world again right now if Perry was back in the band..
But nope still making empty promises,
Yea I will perform in scotland yea right Steve another lie.

When did he say he'll perform in Scotland?!?!

In the interview he said I would love to come to Scotland and perform
He said seriously I would.

Why make a bold face lie like that.?

He will never even set foot there .

What is wrong with you? He spoke at length of how he wanted to be a DJ as a child and at a very young age used to practice his timing. SP was invited to Scotland by the interviewer to GUEST DJ on a show where they have had other celebrities do the same, not sing. So before you go calling someone a liar, why don't you pay attention and get your facts straight?

Nope he said I would love to perform there
Not be a dj

7 Wishes wrote:If Perry was still in the band, the "forthcoming album" would be dust in the wind and Journey would never, ever tour again.

He's the reason I went into music 25 years ago. He may have "held the keys to the customized Harley," but I don't miss him anymore. Pineda has saved this band.

Ditto.

As far as the Rock and Roll HoF- who cares? Blondie's in there for God's sake. Shows you how valid it is...

Saint John wrote:

froy wrote:

7 Wishes wrote:If Perry was still in the band, the "forthcoming album" would be dust in the wind and Journey would never, ever tour again.

He's the reason I went into music 25 years ago. He may have "held the keys to the customized Harley," but I don't miss him anymore. Pineda has saved this band.[/q

I know he sings great but Pineda is just a fillin just like Gowan and all the rest.
Steve Perry should be singing with JRNY but he is just too messed up in the head.
He can't even listen to himself sing anymore what the hell is that.
The man needs some help, Mommy is gone and he has nobody to turn to.
If she was here she would say Damnit Steve get your ass out there and sing

You just have to believe that after all these years Herbie was right when he said "He's gone to all of the best vocal coaches in the world and he's just got nothing left. There's nothing there." Herbie seems to be a straight shooter, like him or not.

I never saw that quote Dan. When did HH say that?

Probability of Steve Perry ever rejoining Journey= .5%
Probability of Steve Perry releasing new material before he's 70=.6%

brywool wrote:

Saint John wrote:
You just have to believe that after all these years Herbie was right when he said "He's gone to all of the best vocal coaches in the world and he's just got nothing left. There's nothing there." Herbie seems to be a straight shooter, like him or not.

I never saw that quote Dan. When did HH say that?

Who cares when and where he said it. Herbie is a bitter old guy who spouts off a lot of garbage. I don't give two shits whether he did an MR interview or not. The guy is slanted and bias, and a fucking blowhard. I used to think he was a rock n roll god of a manager, but if you think about it, he is most responsible for ruining the band at it's best, when he burned up his lead singer, the main cog in the wheel and the guy who made the band famous, like a wild fire sparked by the rubbing of Rosie Odonell's inner thighs. Gee, what a grand idea Herbert? Schedule Perry to sing 31 consecutive nights in a row on the Departure tour, singing basically operetta like vocals. Yes, he did, I have that schedule somewhere. Then he and Bill Graham, RIP, decided that the band needed to push on during the Escape tour, even when the band had said repeatedly that they were spent. It was all about money, which is fine, but had Herbert had some long range vision, he could have milked this train for another 10 or so years, and you wouldn't have a guy like Perry, standing up to him finally in 1986, burned out and voice toasted. Perry had a set of stones for doing this. You may have had another 2 or three albums and tours and the band could have retired at the top of the game, instead of taking 20 hour bus rides going to play 2,000 seat theaters and fairgrounds.

Relax, Mini Lee (Phillips). You USED to spout double H's musings as gospel.

Red13JoePa wrote:Relax, Mini Lee (Phillips). You USED to spout double H's musings as gospel.

Didn't know you wanted to join the discussion, Misses Helper? But since you want to help me, maybe you should read what I just wrote? I just said I used to hail him as THE Man, but I reserve the right to change my opinion based on updated knowledge and findings.

Ah.
So when he bashes Neal, Cain, Valory that's fine, he is "the man" but he's a bitter old man full of shit when he smears The Groundhog?

Guys don't feud this one out too fast. I gotta go grab a beer and popcorn.

Red13JoePa wrote:Ah.
So when he bashes Neal, Cain, Valory that's fine, he is "the man" but he's a bitter old man full of shit when he smears The Groundhog?

Dude, he bashes everyone, and never takes any fucking responsibility. The Groundhog deserves some blame yes, but look at the other jokers you mentioned. You need me to go through each and every one of them for you?

froy wrote:

SherriBerry wrote:

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:DSB is the most popular song in The United States. Everyone knows it. Cain's architecture of this song and Perry's vocals are simply incredible.

Even with all this that is happening with this song Perry still sits and does nothing.
JRNY would be on top of the world again right now if Perry was back in the band..
But nope still making empty promises,
Yea I will perform in scotland yea right Steve another lie.

When did he say he'll perform in Scotland?!?!

In the interview he said I would love to come to Scotland and perform
He said seriously I would.

Why make a bold face lie like that.?

He will never even set foot there .

What is wrong with you? He spoke at length of how he wanted to be a DJ as a child and at a very young age used to practice his timing. SP was invited to Scotland by the interviewer to GUEST DJ on a show where they have had other celebrities do the same, not sing. So before you go calling someone a liar, why don't you pay attention and get your facts straight?

Nope he said I would love to perform there
Not be a dj

He was invited to perform as a guest DJ, end of story. He did not say he was going to come and sing there.

SherriBerry wrote:

froy wrote:

SherriBerry wrote:

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:

froy wrote:

Saint John wrote:DSB is the most popular song in The United States. Everyone knows it. Cain's architecture of this song and Perry's vocals are simply incredible.

Even with all this that is happening with this song Perry still sits and does nothing.
JRNY would be on top of the world again right now if Perry was back in the band..
But nope still making empty promises,
Yea I will perform in scotland yea right Steve another lie.

When did he say he'll perform in Scotland?!?!

In the interview he said I would love to come to Scotland and perform
He said seriously I would.

Why make a bold face lie like that.?

He will never even set foot there .

What is wrong with you? He spoke at length of how he wanted to be a DJ as a child and at a very young age used to practice his timing. SP was invited to Scotland by the interviewer to GUEST DJ on a show where they have had other celebrities do the same, not sing. So before you go calling someone a liar, why don't you pay attention and get your facts straight?

Nope he said I would love to perform there
Not be a dj

He was invited to perform as a guest DJ, end of story. He did not say he was going to come and sing there.

He said perform there.
Not be a dj there