Pineda's Success Story Overload

[etcetera]

It's late in the game so I'm laying odds this episode (airing tomorrow) won't be a potboiler...will hopefully be a more insightful take of the worn-out Cinderella saga...

http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... 9&Itemid=8 (trailer)

Arnel struggled for more than 2 decades to gain local renown (in singing)...

Q: Did you think at the age of 40, such a break will still come your way?
A: No more. Actually I was already disheartened...

From the street to the stage dominated by (the international rock band) Journey...

Q: Why did you get hooked on drugs?
A: I was stupid, I was bored, I was doing the same old thing everyday...

Edit: Updated link.

[wednesday's child]

Overload is right.
I've already heard Arnel's story, over and over.

What I want to hear are his vocals on a new Journey album.
It would be nice if said album actually contained some rock.

[Chubby321]

Overload? Maybe, but good exposure for Arnel nonetheless.

Steve Perry has been in the business for a long time and he still gets the same questions every time.

[Michigan Girl]

It's late in the game so I'm laying odds this episode (airing tomorrow) won't be a potboiler...will hopefully be a more insightful take of the worn-out Cinderella saga...

http://www.probetv.com/ (trailer)

Arnel struggled for more than 2 decades to gain local renown (in singing)...

Q: Did you think at the age of 40, such a break will still come your way?
A: No more. Actually I was already disheartened...

From the street to the stage dominated by (the international rock band) Journey...

Q: Why did you get hooked on drugs?
A: I was stupid, I was bored, I was doing the same old thing everyday...

I haven't heard much about this ^^^^ he could really turn this into a lesson for his listening public
and for me that never gets boring!! The other stuff, yeah ...I'm over it!!

[brywool]

Agreed. If they can somehow take another spin on the story, that'd be great, but to hear the same deal "Neal called me, thought it was a joke, made him web cam, etc." does get old. The deal with Arnel getting too into stuff that he shouldn't have hasn't been talked about as much, but yeah, if it can kind of wake people up to their own thing, that might be worth it. It's decent publicity for him, but he does risk over exposure.

[Ehwmatt]

It's just as obnoxious as every time you turn on the Olympics every SINGLE athlete has some incredibly story-book, hard-knock story pathway to success. It gets so old and tired. Hell, most rock stars probably come from fortuitous circumstances and possible hard knocks. We didn't hear about Augeri being a Gap salesman at every turn or about Perry being a goddamn chicken farmer at every turn, did we? It's all about the international bent, which is fine in small doses, but get over it already, it's been what, over 2 years?

[brywool]

It's just as obnoxious as every time you turn on the Olympics every SINGLE athlete has some incredibly story-book, hard-knock story pathway to success. It gets so old and tired. Hell, most rock stars probably come from fortuitous circumstances and possible hard knocks. We didn't hear about Augeri being a Gap salesman at every turn or about Perry being a goddamn chicken farmer at every turn, did we? It's all about the international bent, which is fine in small doses, but get over it already, it's been what, over 2 years?

.... well, we DID hear about Perry losing his mom forever...
We did hear about Augeri and the Gap a lot.

[Ehwmatt]

It's just as obnoxious as every time you turn on the Olympics every SINGLE athlete has some incredibly story-book, hard-knock story pathway to success. It gets so old and tired. Hell, most rock stars probably come from fortuitous circumstances and possible hard knocks. We didn't hear about Augeri being a Gap salesman at every turn or about Perry being a goddamn chicken farmer at every turn, did we? It's all about the international bent, which is fine in small doses, but get over it already, it's been what, over 2 years?

.... well, we DID hear about Perry losing his mom forever...
We did hear about Augeri and the Gap a lot.

We heard about it, yes, but it wasn't the focal point of every concert review, puff piece, and feature piece on the band, was it?

[portland]

It's just as obnoxious as every time you turn on the Olympics every SINGLE athlete has some incredibly story-book, hard-knock story pathway to success. It gets so old and tired. Hell, most rock stars probably come from fortuitous circumstances and possible hard knocks. We didn't hear about Augeri being a Gap salesman at every turn or about Perry being a goddamn chicken farmer at every turn, did we? It's all about the international bent, which is fine in small doses, but get over it already, it's been what, over 2 years?

.... well, we DID hear about Perry losing his mom forever...
We did hear about Augeri and the Gap a lot.

We heard about it, yes, but it wasn't the focal point of every concert review, puff piece, and feature piece on the band, was it?

No it was not.

[Michigan Girl]

I don't know about Augeri, but I don't remember hearing much about the drama in Perry's life
until after the band was over. Now we hear it endlessly!! ...

I do, however, recall a couple of the chicken ranch interviews ...

*edit*ha ha meant turkey...what am I thinking!!

[Ehwmatt]

I don't know about Augeri, but I don't remember hearing much about the drama in Perry's life
until after the band was over. Now we hear it endlessly!! ...

Yes we do, often from Perry himself. That's gay too

[lights1961]

It's just as obnoxious as every time you turn on the Olympics every SINGLE athlete has some incredibly story-book, hard-knock story pathway to success. It gets so old and tired. Hell, most rock stars probably come from fortuitous circumstances and possible hard knocks. We didn't hear about Augeri being a Gap salesman at every turn or about Perry being a goddamn chicken farmer at every turn, did we? It's all about the international bent, which is fine in small doses, but get over it already, it's been what, over 2 years?

.... well, we DID hear about Perry losing his mom forever...
We did hear about Augeri and the Gap a lot.

but it was never 24/7 coverage like it is today...and in your face coverage all the time with the internet and youtube...message boards and the like....

Rick

[Don]

Intentionally or not, Pineda's story has been used as marketing material to move product for the band. Whether working at the Gap or on a Chicken farm, the upbringing of the other singers was never a factor in promoting the band.
If you dig deep through other rock stars pasts, you'll find guys who were sleeping on the streets in Hollywood, eating jelly sandwiches or ramen for years on end trying to support themselves. The difference with those other singers are they had to make it on pure talent as there was no ready made legacy to drop them into, where they could just step in and sing with no other requirements needed.
We will see how the promotion for the next album plays out and if the band goes to the well once too often, trying to push the poor-boy sympathy angle one more time.
Personally, I don't think so. The film documentary about Arnel is having a hard enough time getting funding as you can only live off of people's emotional charity for so long before they turn you off.

[Michigan Girl]

Intentionally or not, Pineda's story has been used as marketing material to move product for the band. Whether working at the Gap or on a Chicken farm, the upbringing of the other singers was never a factor in promoting the band.
If you dig deep through other rock stars pasts, you'll find guys who were sleeping on the streets in Hollywood, eating jelly sandwiches or ramen for years on end trying to support themselves. The difference with those other singers are they had to make it on pure talent as there was no ready made legacy to drop them into, where they could just step in and sing with no other requirements needed.
We will see how the promotion for the next album plays out and if the band goes to the well once too often, trying to push the poor-boy sympathy angle one more time.
Personally, I don't think so. The film documentary about Arnel is having a hard enough time getting funding as you can only live off of people's emotional charity for so long before they turn you off.

I'm kinda scared to respond, but I totally agree w/you here, G~boy!! The well is dry, make
some awesome music!!! I hope I got this right!!

[Don]

I'm not banging the band for running with free publicity, but this should be new a chapter for them now. It's time to tell us about Pineda's valuable contributions to the upcoming project, not about how many porches he slept under or how many bottles he took the recycler 20 years ago (although, I do understand how important that regurgitated information is to the TRUE Journey fans).

[steveo777]

Intentionally or not, Pineda's story has been used as marketing material to move product for the band. Whether working at the Gap or on a Chicken farm, the upbringing of the other singers was never a factor in promoting the band.
If you dig deep through other rock stars pasts, you'll find guys who were sleeping on the streets in Hollywood, eating jelly sandwiches or ramen for years on end trying to support themselves. The difference with those other singers are they had to make it on pure talent as there was no ready made legacy to drop them into, where they could just step in and sing with no other requirements needed.
We will see how the promotion for the next album plays out and if the band goes to the well once too often, trying to push the poor-boy sympathy angle one more time.
Personally, I don't think so. The film documentary about Arnel is having a hard enough time getting funding as you can only live off of people's emotional charity for so long before they turn you off.

I wasn't aware of any funding issues. I thought it was a done deal and they were just trying to decide on the best way to release it....HBO, DVD, Theater, etc.

[Don]

Intentionally or not, Pineda's story has been used as marketing material to move product for the band. Whether working at the Gap or on a Chicken farm, the upbringing of the other singers was never a factor in promoting the band.
If you dig deep through other rock stars pasts, you'll find guys who were sleeping on the streets in Hollywood, eating jelly sandwiches or ramen for years on end trying to support themselves. The difference with those other singers are they had to make it on pure talent as there was no ready made legacy to drop them into, where they could just step in and sing with no other requirements needed.
We will see how the promotion for the next album plays out and if the band goes to the well once too often, trying to push the poor-boy sympathy angle one more time.
Personally, I don't think so. The film documentary about Arnel is having a hard enough time getting funding as you can only live off of people's emotional charity for so long before they turn you off.

I wasn't aware of any funding issues. I thought it was a done deal and they were just trying to decide on the best way to release it....HBO, DVD, Theater, etc.

They need a distributor, that's why you shop it around at film festivals, looking for someone to pick it up.

Remember, they filmed this back in 2008. I'm sure they don't want to sit on this intentionally. When Oprah had the story fresh on peoples minds was the opportune time to get this out the door.
Bon Jovi had their Documentary come out in October and no one even heard a peep. With their star power, and their recent release going to #1, you think it would have done something but nadda.
It's hard to peddle these type of films, Especially when Arnel's story was played to death, finally culminating with the Oprah appearance.

The Filipinos will pick this up but what about the majority of Journey fans or for that matter movie buffs in general? What does it offer that we haven't heard or read about already?

[steveo777]

Intentionally or not, Pineda's story has been used as marketing material to move product for the band. Whether working at the Gap or on a Chicken farm, the upbringing of the other singers was never a factor in promoting the band.
If you dig deep through other rock stars pasts, you'll find guys who were sleeping on the streets in Hollywood, eating jelly sandwiches or ramen for years on end trying to support themselves. The difference with those other singers are they had to make it on pure talent as there was no ready made legacy to drop them into, where they could just step in and sing with no other requirements needed.
We will see how the promotion for the next album plays out and if the band goes to the well once too often, trying to push the poor-boy sympathy angle one more time.
Personally, I don't think so. The film documentary about Arnel is having a hard enough time getting funding as you can only live off of people's emotional charity for so long before they turn you off.

I wasn't aware of any funding issues. I thought it was a done deal and they were just trying to decide on the best way to release it....HBO, DVD, Theater, etc.

They need a distributor, that's why you shop it around at film festivals, looking for someone to pick it up.

Which, as I understand, is common practice. How does that indicated a funding problem? Maybe the air has leaked out of this whole idea is the real issue. The story has been told aplenty and I probably wouldn't go out and spend money on it.

[Don]

Intentionally or not, Pineda's story has been used as marketing material to move product for the band. Whether working at the Gap or on a Chicken farm, the upbringing of the other singers was never a factor in promoting the band.
If you dig deep through other rock stars pasts, you'll find guys who were sleeping on the streets in Hollywood, eating jelly sandwiches or ramen for years on end trying to support themselves. The difference with those other singers are they had to make it on pure talent as there was no ready made legacy to drop them into, where they could just step in and sing with no other requirements needed.
We will see how the promotion for the next album plays out and if the band goes to the well once too often, trying to push the poor-boy sympathy angle one more time.
Personally, I don't think so. The film documentary about Arnel is having a hard enough time getting funding as you can only live off of people's emotional charity for so long before they turn you off.

I wasn't aware of any funding issues. I thought it was a done deal and they were just trying to decide on the best way to release it....HBO, DVD, Theater, etc.

They need a distributor, that's why you shop it around at film festivals, looking for someone to pick it up.

Which, as I understand, is common practice. How does that indicated a funding problem? Maybe the air has leaked out of this whole idea is the real issue. The story has been told aplenty and I probably wouldn't go out and spend money on it.

The film producer said they didn't really have any funding, pretty much working with out pay and using their credit cards. Nothing was even moving towards completion until they got on Oprah and then finally they got a little traction going with the film.

Check out the plokker sites, you'll find more information there.

[steveo777]

Hey, Gun, you didn't see the thread I started about raising bail for you on the main forum? Apparently the cops are looking for whoever started your avatar.

[Don]

Hey, Gun, you didn't see the thread I started about raising bail for you on the main forum? Apparently the cops are looking for whoever started your avatar.

I was looking for one of JC copping a header from Mary Magdalene but no luck so I had to go with this one.

[Chubby321]

PART I
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...


PART II
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PART III
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...

PART IV
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Watching rt now.

[steveo777]

PART I
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...


PART II
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...

PART III
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...

PART IV
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...

Watching rt now.

What the hell? That can't be the whole thing, is it? LOL, so when it comes out on DVD we can choose english language.

[Chubby321]

PART I
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...


PART II
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...

PART III
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...

PART IV
http://www.probetv.com/index.php?option ... w=video&...

Watching rt now.

What the hell? That can't be the whole thing, is it?

Yes, the whole thing. Sorry it's mostly in our language but I learned that there are some home videos that we have not seen before.

[diezynueve69]

Edit: Invalid links.

[etcetera]

Edit: Messed-up links.

[steveo777]

Those links are dead, and that's not Everyman's Journey anyway. I've seen footage of it.

[Chubby321]

Hope this works.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... B5388A6D28


Part 4 - Per AP when Journey was performing at Download Festivals, many iconic band members were watching their set like Depp, Queen, Whitesnakes. That's so cool.

[RocknRoll]

Hope this works.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... B5388A6D28


Part 4 - Per AP when Journey was performing at Download Festivals, many iconic band members were watching their set like Depp, Queen, Whitesnakes. That's so cool.

So are you going to translate this for us?

[Chubby321]

Hope this works.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... B5388A6D28


Part 4 - Per AP when Journey was performing at Download Festivals, many iconic band members were watching their set like Depp, Queen, Whitesnakes. That's so cool.

So are you going to translate this for us?

Edit: Part 6 and not part 4 of the link that I just posted.

Also, watch only 1,3,4,5,6,7




Part I - translation from Ap's site. Thanks to Lou.
http://arnelpinedarocks.com/forum/index ... c&start=25

ARNEL PINEDA PART I OF 4 (for now)

(Neal on guitar introduction…)

On his very first concert in the Philippines as the lead vocalist of Journey, a popular international rock band, more than 25,000 countrymen warmly welcomed Arnel Pineda.

They said it was a miracle that Arnel’s talent was discovered when he was already over 40 years old and by someone outside the country.

What did Arnel have that made him popular?
Noel: “When Arnel sings, his voice sounds similar to the original band.

What did he undergo before he joined Journey?
Monette: “During his very first audition with us (Hijos Band), they were not with us yet (pointing to the other people), he looked like a vagrant and was dirty. But his voice was great. We really saw that, “Wow, he has a golden voice.”

Who is Arnel Pineda to Journey?
Yul: He didn’t have that star factor even though he’s already going international. I don’t think it has sinked in yet up to now.

For over two decades, Arnel Pineda tried hard in the Philippines to be known in music industry. But his most awaited break came from a place he never expected and with the group he only thought could happen in his dream. Tonight, let’s watch and listen to Arnel Pineda’s song of his life, from the streets to the stage invaded by the international rock band, Journey.

What do you think was the biggest challenge in your life?
Arnel: "When my mother died, when we were all scattered."

Why did you turn to drugs?
Arnel: “I was stupid, I was bored…

(Faithfully, alternately played between Steve Perry and Arnel Pineda.)

A song that never fades…

A familiar voice…

On the recent return of the band Journey, one thing is different…the singer is Arnel Pineda.

(Chile concert shown in the background)

In his first concert with Journey, Arnel said he was like in cloud nine.

Arnel: I said, “Can I just go home?” I was so nervous. I told Neal, “I want to go home, I can’t do this.” Neal playfully kicked me and said, “It’s too late, get out there, sing.”

Arnel felt he was just starting his career due to nervousness. Even though he has been singing for more or less three decades, Arnel felt very different because this time he was on stage with his idolized band.

I first learned about them when I was just 10 year old. I was already singing their song, Open Arms.

Journey started in 1973 but it was around 1980 when they gained popularity. The rock band had 80 million records, 8 multiplatinum albums, and diamond records awards. Journey had 18 top 40 singles, too, and because of this, they were on Billboard Hot 100 Charts.)

In one opinion poll by USA Today, Journey was ranked No. 5 as the most popular American rock band. Journey acknowledged that they owe their popularity to Steve Perry, their lead singer.

In 1996, Steve Perry left Journey due to a hip injury. The group waited for a year for his return but it never happened. It took them 10 years to look for Perry’s replacement. The group tried two singers but the sparkle of the band wasn’t there. Neal said, “I think we were looking for the legacy sound, it’s a tenor voice and it was an emotional…”

The band and their fans were looking for Perry’s voice. Ross said, “But it’s also like we’ve returned to where we left off.” They finally found it and it came from a voice that had been nurtured by a difficult life.

NEXT: “When I woke up, I lost my voice…because there were times I did not sleep for 3 days due to drugs…”