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2011 tour setlist (what would you want?)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:36 am
by Archetype
Opening act: Styx

Edge Of The Blade
Separate Ways
Ask The Lonely
Change For The Better
Send Her My Love
Remember Me (Deen on vocals)
Lights
Higher Place
Troubled Child
Message Of Love
Open Arms
After The Fall (Deen on vocals)
Wheel In The Sky
Place In Your Heart
Still They Ride (Deen on vocals)
Stone In Love
Turn Down The World Tonight
Escape
Any Way You Want It
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Don't Stop Believing
Be Good To Yourself
Faithfully

Also 3 new songs

PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:38 am
by Don
Concept album Side 1
Intermission
Concept album side 2
Encore
The Party's Over

PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:43 am
by JRNYFan
Gunbot wrote:Concept album Side 1
Intermission
Concept album side 2
Encore
The Party's Over


Couldn't have said it better! :)

Re: 2011 tour setlist (what would you want?)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:53 am
by Jana
Archetype wrote:Opening act: Styx ----------- yes, yes, yes.

Edge Of The Blade ------------- yes
Separate Ways ------------------ yes - extended version
Ask The Lonely ------------------ Only The Young
Change for the Better ----------- yes
Send Her My Love --------------- yes, or Who's Crying Now
Remember Me (Deen on vocals)- Too Late (Deen)
Lights------------------------------- Yes, with Stay Awhile combined
Higher Place ----------------------- World Gone Wild
Troubled Child -------------------- hell, yes.
Message Of Love ----------------- yes
Open Arms ----------------------- When You Love A Woman
After The Fall (Deen on vocals) - Yes, fantastic choice.
Wheel In The Sky ----------------- yes
Place In Your Heart .................. Live and Breathe
Still They Ride (Deen on vocals) - Mother Father (Deen)
Stone In Love----------------------- new song
Turn Down The World Tonight ---- Yes
Escape ------------------------------ One More
Any Way You Want It .................. Precious Time
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Don't Stop Believing------------------ yes. No extended version
Be Good To Yourself------------------ Chain Reaction
Faithfully-------------------------------- of course. No-brainer.

Also 3 new songs ............................ Yes.

And I add -
Neal solo -------------------------------- Filmore Boogie

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:04 am
by Archetype
1. Message Of Love
2. Separate Ways
3. Dead Or Alive
4. Higher Place
5. new song
6. Remember Me (Deen)
7. Stone In Love
8. All The Way
9. Ask The Lonely
10. Wheel In The Sky
11. A Better Life (Deen)
12. new song
13. Where Did I Lose You Love
14. Place In Your Heart (Deen)
15. Lights
16. Be Good To Yourself
17. Faithfully
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18. new song
19. Don't Stop Believing
20. Girl Can't Help It
21. Any Way You Want It

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:12 am
by steveo777
I'm ok with most of what's been posted so far but play some ROR stuff.

Susanne
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TEOAW

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:15 am
by Rockindeano
Why do you fans always write the same old thing every year? Just curious, why can't Journey play DSB and Faithfully nightly, and the rest of the set list you play whatever the Hell you want? Why does it have to be the same every single night? I just don't get.

By the way Gunbot, your idea- will NEVER see the light of day.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:25 am
by Red13JoePa
Rockindeano wrote:
By the way Gunbot, your idea- will NEVER see the light of day.



Goes for ANY band, not just Journey.
Don't give me "WHAT ABOUT BRUCE WHAT ABOUT BRUCE?????" either because he couldn;t get away with it most nights.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:26 am
by steveo777
Rockindeano wrote:Why do you fans always write the same old thing every year? Just curious, why can't Journey play DSB and Faithfully nightly, and the rest of the set list you play whatever the Hell you want? Why does it have to be the same every single night? I just don't get.

By the way Gunbot, your idea- will NEVER see the light of day.


Hey
You turned in your fan card and you want to be vocal about what fans choose as a setlist?
STFU Dean! :wink: :mrgreen:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:42 am
by Since 78
Never Walk Away ( original tuning)
New song
Where Did I Lose Your Love
State of Grace
New song
Higher Place
New Song
Walking Away From the Edge
New Song
After All These Years
Remember Me
What I Needed
New Song
Turn Down the World Tonight
New Song
Change For the Better

NOMOTA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:48 am
by Archetype
State Of Grace would be a most badass way to start the set. (think lights/lasers/video/during the electro-esque intro and a massive dose of pyrotechnics when the riff starts)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:16 am
by RocknRoll
Archetype wrote:State Of Grace would be a most badass way to start the set. (think lights/lasers/video/during the electro-esque intro and a massive dose of pyrotechnics when the riff starts)


Didn't they use State of Grace during one of their tours already, can't remember which but maybe 2004 or 5?

My dream (I know I posted this before, but I still like it :shock: ) is still a 3 night stand at someplace cool like the Chicago Theater (cap, 3600) with a different era each night.

Night One = Early Journey, pre-perry and infinity/evolution/departure
Night Two = Perry Era, escape/frontiers/ror
Night Three = Post-Perry including tbf

Than you could add a Night Four with the new concept album, but I bet it wouldn't sell. :cry:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:17 am
by Rockindeano
steveo777 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Why do you fans always write the same old thing every year? Just curious, why can't Journey play DSB and Faithfully nightly, and the rest of the set list you play whatever the Hell you want? Why does it have to be the same every single night? I just don't get.

By the way Gunbot, your idea- will NEVER see the light of day.


Hey
You turned in your fan card and you want to be vocal about what fans choose as a setlist?
STFU Dean! :wink: :mrgreen:


No, Fuck you! I would actually consider going if they would play a different song once a decade. It is the same shit every show. I want to see Schon audible, instead of going into the next song on the set list, change it up and play something off the cuff, even a cover. Show me you aren't a programmed band..show me you have some real artistry there. Hell, any band can play the same set list every night, fuck these guys can play the Dozen in their sleep. Where's the fun in that?

And RedJoan, fuck you too. Bruce has done it and so have a lot of other artists(Bon Jovi comes to mind But they copy everything he does anyway so fuck them). Go look at set lists if you don't believe me. It makes for a different show and the fans can hear songs never before played.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:18 am
by steveo777
RocknRoll wrote:
Archetype wrote:State Of Grace would be a most badass way to start the set. (think lights/lasers/video/during the electro-esque intro and a massive dose of pyrotechnics when the riff starts)


Didn't they use State of Grace during one of their tours already, can't remember which but maybe 2004 or 5?

My dream (I know I posted this before, but I still like it :shock: ) is still a 3 night stand at someplace cool like the Chicago Theater (cap, 3600) with a different era each night.

Night One = Early Journey, pre-perry and infinity/evolution/departure
Night Two = Perry Era, escape/frontiers/ror
Night Three = Post-Perry including tbf

Than you could add a Night Four with the new concept album, but I bet it wouldn't sell. :cry:


I agree, just tear through the best of the whole catalog over 3 days. Forget the 4th

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:37 am
by Don
Rockindeano wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Why do you fans always write the same old thing every year? Just curious, why can't Journey play DSB and Faithfully nightly, and the rest of the set list you play whatever the Hell you want? Why does it have to be the same every single night? I just don't get.

By the way Gunbot, your idea- will NEVER see the light of day.


Hey
You turned in your fan card and you want to be vocal about what fans choose as a setlist?
STFU Dean! :wink: :mrgreen:


No, Fuck you! I would actually consider going if they would play a different song once a decade. It is the same shit every show. I want to see Schon audible, instead of going into the next song on the set list, change it up and play something off the cuff, even a cover. Show me you aren't a programmed band..show me you have some real artistry there. Hell, any band can play the same set list every night, fuck these guys can play the Dozen in their sleep. Where's the fun in that?

And RedJoan, fuck you too. Bruce has done it and so have a lot of other artists(Bon Jovi comes to mind But they copy everything he does anyway so fuck them). Go look at set lists if you don't believe me. It makes for a different show and the fans can hear songs never before played.


It seems there are more bands doing the whole album shows now. Steely Dan had the best idea, three gigs with a different album each night and the fourth show an internet request playlist.

Besides Bruce, Pink Floyd, has probably never played a dirty dozen set either. Another one who mixes up her setlist is Pat Benatar. She'll play hits, acoustic, jazz, blues, never the same the same show twice all the times I've seen her.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:59 am
by Archetype
Dream Theater plays a different set every night.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:04 am
by Rockindeano
I argued this with RedJoe13 in PM. Maybe he is right. He says Journey audiences are very different and aren't that deep and wouldn't go for it.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:09 am
by Glenn
Archetype wrote:Dream Theater plays a different set every night.


Yes they do....A truly great band.


But you kinda lost me with having Styx as the opener.

People think the Journey set list is stale? Try some Styx on for size....."Paint by numbers".

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:10 am
by Blueskies
Rockindeano wrote:I argued this with RedJoe13 in PM. Maybe he is right. He says Journey audiences are very different and aren't that deep and wouldn't go for it.


Quote of the year! :lol: Especially after reading the previous thread. :shock:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:12 am
by Jana
Blueskies wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I argued this with RedJoe13 in PM. Maybe he is right. He says Journey audiences are very different and aren't that deep and wouldn't go for it.


Quote of the year! :lol: Especially after reading the previous thread. :shock:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:13 am
by Glenn
Rockindeano wrote:I argued this with RedJoe13 in PM. Maybe he is right. He says Journey audiences are very different and aren't that deep and wouldn't go for it.



Very true.

But, I think that if the album is done right, you could have some of both.


I'd like Journey to leave the Cain era alone a bit and bring back more of the Rolie era.


Example....Replace Open Arms and Escape with Patiently and Winds of March.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:14 am
by Jana
Can Neal sing lead live anymore? B/c I would love love love to see People and Places one time.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:15 am
by Jana
JSS Rocks! wrote:
Archetype wrote:Dream Theater plays a different set every night.


Yes they do....A truly great band.


But you kinda lost me with having Styx as the opener.

People think the Journey set list is stale? Try some Styx on for size....."Paint by numbers".


I want Styx as the opener. :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:17 am
by Archetype
JSS Rocks! wrote:
Archetype wrote:Dream Theater plays a different set every night.


Yes they do....A truly great band.


But you kinda lost me with having Styx as the opener.

People think the Journey set list is stale? Try some Styx on for size....."Paint by numbers".


Not entirely. Since 1999 (the formation of the "new" Styx) there have been MANY setlist changes. The current one has been going on for too long though- since 2008. They put a Damn Yankees song in their set the other night though, so maybe they're finally starting to change things up.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:19 am
by Glenn
Jana wrote:
JSS Rocks! wrote:
Archetype wrote:Dream Theater plays a different set every night.


Yes they do....A truly great band.


But you kinda lost me with having Styx as the opener.

People think the Journey set list is stale? Try some Styx on for size....."Paint by numbers".


I want Styx as the opener. :lol:



You can have them! :lol:

Don't get me wrong...i LOVE styx, but since 2004, not much has change at all. The band lost some energy when Glen left...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:27 am
by Jana
Rockindeano wrote:I argued this with RedJoe13 in PM. Maybe he is right. He says Journey audiences are very different and aren't that deep and wouldn't go for it.


Would never go for it, I agree.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:43 pm
by Rockindeano
Jana wrote:Can Neal sing lead live anymore? B/c I would love love love to see People and Places one time.


You missed out. In 2005 they did the vocal intro in Los Angeles. It did sound cool. Great rock song.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:47 pm
by Ehwmatt
Rockindeano wrote:
Jana wrote:Can Neal sing lead live anymore? B/c I would love love love to see People and Places one time.


You missed out. In 2005 they did the vocal intro in Los Angeles. It did sound cool. Great rock song.


Did they really do it though? :lol: That's a pretty tough harmony.

At any rate, it definitely sounded cool. Would have loved to have seen the whole tune.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:47 pm
by Rockindeano
Jana wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I argued this with RedJoe13 in PM. Maybe he is right. He says Journey audiences are very different and aren't that deep and wouldn't go for it.


Would never go for it, I agree.


Then if Schon reads this, and I believe he does, why in the Hell make such a record? For artists sake? Certainly not for commercial purposes. It won't sell, but to the die hards. I think Pink Floyd and Bruce can get away with this because like RedJoe said, they are entirely different audiences and clientele, and Journey's built in audience isn't half as big as those two bands. Journey's bed is made. They are a wonderful pop band but that's where the line ends with them. Music critics loathe them probably because of that, and the fact that they were successful being a pure pop band. They never did write a serious top 40 tune. So I just don't see why Schon would waste studio time doing this. Makes zero sense.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:50 pm
by Rockindeano
Ehwmatt wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Jana wrote:Can Neal sing lead live anymore? B/c I would love love love to see People and Places one time.


You missed out. In 2005 they did the vocal intro in Los Angeles. It did sound cool. Great rock song.


Did they really do it though? :lol: That's a pretty tough harmony.

At any rate, it definitely sounded cool. Would have loved to have seen the whole tune.


I was three sheets to the wind(eventually got popped climbing the fence to the tour buses- cut the fuck out of my inner elbow), true story....Lula maintains it was definitely live audio. Cain, Neal and Augeri did it, but only the intro...didn't play the entire song.