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Gunbot wrote:The DSB episode again? Keep flogging that mule, boyz.
Rockindeano wrote:Gunbot wrote:The DSB episode again? Keep flogging that mule, boyz.
Can't wait to see this.LOL, yeah, I along with every other male in North America(Mexico doesn't count because they are a third world piss urinal), will turn off March Madness to watch a black hippopotamus yank everyone's chain again with the fucking ridiculous repetitive sob story that is Pineda's life. My God, they are going to experience a backlash if they go to this well one hundred times too many. It's so obvious they are creatively bankrupt, that they have to give away cd's with the price of a concert ticket(Generations), or lump in a new disc with a rerecorded classics disk and a live cd too; now they rely on a sob story from a Filipino guy that is frankly more tired than Marylin Chambers pussy after the 80's decade. Jesus, I never thought I'd see Journey become so fuckin' desperate. They can do better than this and everyone knows it. The question is, why don't they?
Jana wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Gunbot wrote:The DSB episode again? Keep flogging that mule, boyz.
Can't wait to see this.LOL, yeah, I along with every other male in North America(Mexico doesn't count because they are a third world piss urinal), will turn off March Madness to watch a black hippopotamus yank everyone's chain again with the fucking ridiculous repetitive sob story that is Pineda's life. My God, they are going to experience a backlash if they go to this well one hundred times too many. It's so obvious they are creatively bankrupt, that they have to give away cd's with the price of a concert ticket(Generations), or lump in a new disc with a rerecorded classics disk and a live cd too; now they rely on a sob story from a Filipino guy that is frankly more tired than Marylin Chambers pussy after the 80's decade. Jesus, I never thought I'd see Journey become so fuckin' desperate. They can do better than this and everyone knows it. The question is, why don't they?
uh, all of Oprah's top episodes get shown again as repeats at different times of the year. not a biggie. all shows air repeats.
Rockindeano wrote:Jana wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Gunbot wrote:The DSB episode again? Keep flogging that mule, boyz.
Can't wait to see this.LOL, yeah, I along with every other male in North America(Mexico doesn't count because they are a third world piss urinal), will turn off March Madness to watch a black hippopotamus yank everyone's chain again with the fucking ridiculous repetitive sob story that is Pineda's life. My God, they are going to experience a backlash if they go to this well one hundred times too many. It's so obvious they are creatively bankrupt, that they have to give away cd's with the price of a concert ticket(Generations), or lump in a new disc with a rerecorded classics disk and a live cd too; now they rely on a sob story from a Filipino guy that is frankly more tired than Marylin Chambers pussy after the 80's decade. Jesus, I never thought I'd see Journey become so fuckin' desperate. They can do better than this and everyone knows it. The question is, why don't they?
uh, all of Oprah's top episodes get shown again as repeats at different times of the year. not a biggie. all shows air repeats.
Yeah I know, but the majority of my post still stands. They are creatively bankrupt. I am seeing if they can make me a fan again with this next effort. I am not holding my breath, but will keep an open mind. They certainly won't get my concert money, as i can watch the same concert by them on my tv. They never play anything different so why pay to see them?
Ehwmatt wrote:It really is sad that I've heard a different set list out of Frontiers with at least 2 or 3 different gems all 6 times I've seen them than I have in seeing Journey 8 or 9 times. Really sad.
They are not consistent with this as of late^^^^^Eric wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:It really is sad that I've heard a different set list out of Frontiers with at least 2 or 3 different gems all 6 times I've seen them than I have in seeing Journey 8 or 9 times. Really sad.
Journey has really mixed up the setlist the times I've seen them the last several years. 2002-2004 (some shows in 2004 were long, but not the one I saw) was repetitive, but they've done a relatively good job with the setlist since. They played 4-5 new songs last August when I saw them at Darien Lake...plus Higher Place, Mother Father and I think Keep on Runnin'.
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Funny story... I had not seen this thread... I just went downstairs to the lobby of my building - there's a TV in the seating area - and there was Arnel... I didn't see right away that it was the Oprah show.... the front office girl was watching it too and I went "Hey! There's Arnel!" She goes "Yeah!" (I have no idea if she is a J fan though, but she seemed to know who he was). I was randomly chatting with her and I said "He is the nicest guy, I got to met him last year..." She goes, "You MET him?!"![]()
So yeah, random Journey moment popped up on my way to grab a coffee refill. Weird.
Eric wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:It really is sad that I've heard a different set list out of Frontiers with at least 2 or 3 different gems all 6 times I've seen them than I have in seeing Journey 8 or 9 times. Really sad.
Journey has really mixed up the setlist the times I've seen them the last several years. 2002-2004 (some shows in 2004 were long, but not the one I saw) was repetitive, but they've done a relatively good job with the setlist since. They played 4-5 new songs last August when I saw them at Darien Lake...plus Higher Place, Mother Father and I think Keep on Runnin'.
Red13JoePa wrote:"Creatively bankrupt."
Creatively bankrupt?
Let's see, of the songs on disc one, which has sold a mil, the credits look like this:
1"Never Walk Away" N. Schon, J. Cain and J. Hunsicker 4:19
2. "Like a Sunshower" N. Schon, J. Cain 4:29
3. "Change For the Better" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:52
4. "Wildest Dream" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:02
5. "Faith in the Heartland" (From Generations, 2005) N. Schon, J. Cain, S. Augeri 6:18
6. "After All These Years" J. Cain 4:10
7. "Where Did I Lose Your Love" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:02
8. "What I Needed" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:28
9. "What It Takes To Win" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:23
10. "Turn Down the World Tonight" J. Cain 4:56
11. "The Journey (Revelation)" (instrumental) N. Schon 5:25
Looks like made a new album to me.
Rockindeano wrote:Gunbot wrote:The DSB episode again? Keep flogging that mule, boyz.
Red13JoePa wrote:"Creatively bankrupt."
Creatively bankrupt?
Let's see, of the songs on disc one, which has sold a mil, the credits look like this:
1"Never Walk Away" N. Schon, J. Cain and J. Hunsicker 4:19
2. "Like a Sunshower" N. Schon, J. Cain 4:29
3. "Change For the Better" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:52
4. "Wildest Dream" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:02
5. "Faith in the Heartland" (From Generations, 2005) N. Schon, J. Cain, S. Augeri 6:18
6. "After All These Years" J. Cain 4:10
7. "Where Did I Lose Your Love" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:02
8. "What I Needed" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:28
9. "What It Takes To Win" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:23
10. "Turn Down the World Tonight" J. Cain 4:56
11. "The Journey (Revelation)" (instrumental) N. Schon 5:25
Looks like made a new album to me.
Rockindeano wrote:Gunbot wrote:The DSB episode again? Keep flogging that mule, boyz.
Can't wait to see this.LOL, yeah, I along with every other male in North America(Mexico doesn't count because they are a third world piss urinal), will turn off March Madness to watch a black hippopotamus yank everyone's chain again with the fucking ridiculous repetitive sob story that is Pineda's life. My God, they are going to experience a backlash if they go to this well one hundred times too many. It's so obvious they are creatively bankrupt, that they have to give away cd's with the price of a concert ticket(Generations), or lump in a new disc with a rerecorded classics disk and a live cd too; now they rely on a sob story from a Filipino guy that is frankly more tired than Marylin Chambers pussy after the 80's decade. Jesus, I never thought I'd see Journey become so fuckin' desperate. They can do better than this and everyone knows it. The question is, why don't they?
Jana wrote:watching oprah. few older bands like this with all the guys, over forty to sixty, all have such great hair.![]()
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arnel is such a sweetie.
with this show on again, I hope wal-mart has the dvd in stock this time.
Art Vandelay wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:"Creatively bankrupt."
Creatively bankrupt?
Let's see, of the songs on disc one, which has sold a mil, the credits look like this:
1"Never Walk Away" N. Schon, J. Cain and J. Hunsicker 4:19
2. "Like a Sunshower" N. Schon, J. Cain 4:29
3. "Change For the Better" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:52
4. "Wildest Dream" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:02
5. "Faith in the Heartland" (From Generations, 2005) N. Schon, J. Cain, S. Augeri 6:18
6. "After All These Years" J. Cain 4:10
7. "Where Did I Lose Your Love" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:02
8. "What I Needed" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:28
9. "What It Takes To Win" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:23
10. "Turn Down the World Tonight" J. Cain 4:56
11. "The Journey (Revelation)" (instrumental) N. Schon 5:25
Looks like made a new album to me.
This 'album' wouldn't have sold half as much without the reheated Greatest Hits tied to it, or the big media push about finding their singer on Youtube. That's where the interest was, not in the new material. Otherwise, Arrival and Generations would have done much better than they did.
Art Vandelay wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:"Creatively bankrupt."
Creatively bankrupt?
Let's see, of the songs on disc one, which has sold a mil, the credits look like this:
1"Never Walk Away" N. Schon, J. Cain and J. Hunsicker 4:19
2. "Like a Sunshower" N. Schon, J. Cain 4:29
3. "Change For the Better" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:52
4. "Wildest Dream" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:02
5. "Faith in the Heartland" (From Generations, 2005) N. Schon, J. Cain, S. Augeri 6:18
6. "After All These Years" J. Cain 4:10
7. "Where Did I Lose Your Love" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:02
8. "What I Needed" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:28
9. "What It Takes To Win" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:23
10. "Turn Down the World Tonight" J. Cain 4:56
11. "The Journey (Revelation)" (instrumental) N. Schon 5:25
Looks like made a new album to me.
This 'album' wouldn't have sold half as much without the reheated Greatest Hits tied to it, or the big media push about finding their singer on Youtube. That's where the interest was, not in the new material. Otherwise, Arrival and Generations would have done much better than they did.
Since 78 wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:"Creatively bankrupt."
Creatively bankrupt?
Let's see, of the songs on disc one, which has sold a mil, the credits look like this:
1"Never Walk Away" N. Schon, J. Cain and J. Hunsicker 4:19
2. "Like a Sunshower" N. Schon, J. Cain 4:29
3. "Change For the Better" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:52
4. "Wildest Dream" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:02
5. "Faith in the Heartland" (From Generations, 2005) N. Schon, J. Cain, S. Augeri 6:18
6. "After All These Years" J. Cain 4:10
7. "Where Did I Lose Your Love" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:02
8. "What I Needed" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:28
9. "What It Takes To Win" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:23
10. "Turn Down the World Tonight" J. Cain 4:56
11. "The Journey (Revelation)" (instrumental) N. Schon 5:25
Looks like made a new album to me.
This 'album' wouldn't have sold half as much without the reheated Greatest Hits tied to it, or the big media push about finding their singer on Youtube. That's where the interest was, not in the new material. Otherwise, Arrival and Generations would have done much better than they did.
Not for me George, Its a very good album which I play at least twice a week. And, what were they supposed to do, ignore a perfectly good marketing opportunity? That would make them the idiots some of you make them out to be.
Jana wrote:Since 78 wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:"Creatively bankrupt."
Creatively bankrupt?
Let's see, of the songs on disc one, which has sold a mil, the credits look like this:
1"Never Walk Away" N. Schon, J. Cain and J. Hunsicker 4:19
2. "Like a Sunshower" N. Schon, J. Cain 4:29
3. "Change For the Better" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:52
4. "Wildest Dream" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:02
5. "Faith in the Heartland" (From Generations, 2005) N. Schon, J. Cain, S. Augeri 6:18
6. "After All These Years" J. Cain 4:10
7. "Where Did I Lose Your Love" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:02
8. "What I Needed" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:28
9. "What It Takes To Win" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:23
10. "Turn Down the World Tonight" J. Cain 4:56
11. "The Journey (Revelation)" (instrumental) N. Schon 5:25
Looks like made a new album to me.
This 'album' wouldn't have sold half as much without the reheated Greatest Hits tied to it, or the big media push about finding their singer on Youtube. That's where the interest was, not in the new material. Otherwise, Arrival and Generations would have done much better than they did.
Not for me George, Its a very good album which I play at least twice a week. And, what were they supposed to do, ignore a perfectly good marketing opportunity? That would make them the idiots some of you make them out to be.
I know. So what if there was a marketing ploy to it. That's what many older bands need nowadays. It's a miracle that this album did so good, looking at the last two albums with Journey faring poorly or no label at all, and people here are punishing them for it. And maybe people on here don't like the album, but a lot of people in the million that bought it liked it, including me. tdtwt should have charted.
Art Vandelay wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Gunbot wrote:The DSB episode again? Keep flogging that mule, boyz.
Can't wait to see this.LOL, yeah, I along with every other male in North America(Mexico doesn't count because they are a third world piss urinal), will turn off March Madness to watch a black hippopotamus yank everyone's chain again with the fucking ridiculous repetitive sob story that is Pineda's life. My God, they are going to experience a backlash if they go to this well one hundred times too many. It's so obvious they are creatively bankrupt, that they have to give away cd's with the price of a concert ticket(Generations), or lump in a new disc with a rerecorded classics disk and a live cd too; now they rely on a sob story from a Filipino guy that is frankly more tired than Marylin Chambers pussy after the 80's decade. Jesus, I never thought I'd see Journey become so fuckin' desperate. They can do better than this and everyone knows it. The question is, why don't they?
Glad to see that you agree with me on the pathetic attempts to make a buck on the CDs. I brought up almost the same point in another post yesterday...seems like there are no boundaries attempting to get their music into the top 10, as if they already assume that the music no longer speaks for itself.
steveo777 wrote:Jana wrote:Since 78 wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:"Creatively bankrupt."
Creatively bankrupt?
Let's see, of the songs on disc one, which has sold a mil, the credits look like this:
1"Never Walk Away" N. Schon, J. Cain and J. Hunsicker 4:19
2. "Like a Sunshower" N. Schon, J. Cain 4:29
3. "Change For the Better" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:52
4. "Wildest Dream" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:02
5. "Faith in the Heartland" (From Generations, 2005) N. Schon, J. Cain, S. Augeri 6:18
6. "After All These Years" J. Cain 4:10
7. "Where Did I Lose Your Love" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:02
8. "What I Needed" N. Schon, J. Cain 5:28
9. "What It Takes To Win" J. Cain, N. Schon 5:23
10. "Turn Down the World Tonight" J. Cain 4:56
11. "The Journey (Revelation)" (instrumental) N. Schon 5:25
Looks like made a new album to me.
This 'album' wouldn't have sold half as much without the reheated Greatest Hits tied to it, or the big media push about finding their singer on Youtube. That's where the interest was, not in the new material. Otherwise, Arrival and Generations would have done much better than they did.
Not for me George, Its a very good album which I play at least twice a week. And, what were they supposed to do, ignore a perfectly good marketing opportunity? That would make them the idiots some of you make them out to be.
I know. So what if there was a marketing ploy to it. That's what many older bands need nowadays. It's a miracle that this album did so good, looking at the last two albums with Journey faring poorly or no label at all, and people here are punishing them for it. And maybe people on here don't like the album, but a lot of people in the million that bought it liked it, including me. tdtwt should have charted.
Whats not released as a single doesn't chart.
Saint John wrote:What in the fuck are you two dopes talking about?The show being aired again was in no way dictated by Journey! Now they run the Oprah show.
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It's simply the time of year that the show plays reruns of the most popular episodes. The only people that are "desperate" are you two. Constantly trying to find a way to illegitimize an album that's moved 1.1 million units. Keep trying, ladies, because you can piss on the bon fire all you want but it's not going to make a difference.
Saint John wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Gunbot wrote:The DSB episode again? Keep flogging that mule, boyz.
Can't wait to see this.LOL, yeah, I along with every other male in North America(Mexico doesn't count because they are a third world piss urinal), will turn off March Madness to watch a black hippopotamus yank everyone's chain again with the fucking ridiculous repetitive sob story that is Pineda's life. My God, they are going to experience a backlash if they go to this well one hundred times too many. It's so obvious they are creatively bankrupt, that they have to give away cd's with the price of a concert ticket(Generations), or lump in a new disc with a rerecorded classics disk and a live cd too; now they rely on a sob story from a Filipino guy that is frankly more tired than Marylin Chambers pussy after the 80's decade. Jesus, I never thought I'd see Journey become so fuckin' desperate. They can do better than this and everyone knows it. The question is, why don't they?
Glad to see that you agree with me on the pathetic attempts to make a buck on the CDs. I brought up almost the same point in another post yesterday...seems like there are no boundaries attempting to get their music into the top 10, as if they already assume that the music no longer speaks for itself.
What in the fuck are you two dopes talking about?The show being aired again was in no way dictated by Journey! Now they run the Oprah show.
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It's simply the time of year that the show plays reruns of the most popular episodes. The only people that are "desperate" are you two. Constantly trying to find a way to illegitimize an album that's moved 1.1 million units. Keep trying, ladies, because you can piss on the bon fire all you want but it's not going to make a difference.
DrFU wrote:I just caught this rerun by accident channel surfing. They showed clips of the Manila DVD--Rip's now been on Oprah![]()
Arnel is adorable.
rockinfayrose wrote:DrFU wrote:I just caught this rerun by accident channel surfing. They showed clips of the Manila DVD--Rip's now been on Oprah![]()
Arnel is adorable.
I also caught this repeat today - didn't really get a good look/sound of Arnel before today. He seems like a humble, nice guy and has a good voice (sure beats Augeri on Generations) but still it will always be the Perry-era Journey that I love. I think Arnel looks kinda out-of-place with the rest of the band until he starts rockin it out.
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