MR

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:16 am**

Quite a few Rock Docs being released this year. Johnny Depp is doing narration on a few of them, the Doors being one. Did Journey ever get their film submitted for Cannes? The deadline for submissions has passed but I haven't heard a peep about it.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:25 am**

They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead. :wink:

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:35 am**

steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:42 am**

portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

it would not surprise me if they inserted this DVD with the new CD that comes out later this fall Or whenever... to make sure the new music actually gets sold... :-)

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:46 am**

lights1961 wrote:
portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

it would not surprise me if they inserted this DVD with the new CD that comes out later this fall Or whenever... to make sure the new music actually gets sold...

Or pack it on the Blu-Ray release of the Manila show.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:49 am**

Gunbot wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

it would not surprise me if they inserted this DVD with the new CD that comes out later this fall Or whenever... to make sure the new music actually gets sold...

Or pack it on the Blu-Ray release of the Manila show.

My bet is at this point; it will be included as the bonus with the next CD.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:50 am**

Gunbot wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

it would not surprise me if they inserted this DVD with the new CD that comes out later this fall Or whenever... to make sure the new music actually gets sold...

Or pack it on the Blu-Ray release of the Manila show.

I'd be ok with this if it meant getting the Manila DVD on Blu Ray. I don't really need any more coasters, but I'd find a use for it.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:52 am**

steveo777 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

it would not surprise me if they inserted this DVD with the new CD that comes out later this fall Or whenever... to make sure the new music actually gets sold...

Or pack it on the Blu-Ray release of the Manila show.

I'd be ok with this if it meant getting the Manila DVD on Blu Ray. I don't really need any more coasters, but I'd find a use for it.

I want to see it. It follows the band and you see behind the scenes of the tour, and I'm fascinated to see how Arnel was taking it all in on his first tour.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:10 am**

Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

it would not surprise me if they inserted this DVD with the new CD that comes out later this fall Or whenever... to make sure the new music actually gets sold...

Or pack it on the Blu-Ray release of the Manila show.

I'd be ok with this if it meant getting the Manila DVD on Blu Ray. I don't really need any more coasters, but I'd find a use for it.

I want to see it. It follows the band and you see behind the scenes of the tour, and I'm fascinated to see how Arnel was taking it all in on his first tour.

Someone posted some footage several months back, which was quickly taken down. In it Arnel had this female assistant who was helping him dress, asking what he wanted to eat, etc. In parts AP was sounding a bit EMO.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:14 am**

Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

it would not surprise me if they inserted this DVD with the new CD that comes out later this fall Or whenever... to make sure the new music actually gets sold...

Or pack it on the Blu-Ray release of the Manila show.

I'd be ok with this if it meant getting the Manila DVD on Blu Ray. I don't really need any more coasters, but I'd find a use for it.

I want to see it. It follows the band and you see behind the scenes of the tour, and I'm fascinated to see how Arnel was taking it all in on his first tour.

THE FANS WILL EAT The history of the band... thats why to me its a no brainer to wait until the new CD gets out...
its too bad they did not do this with journey live 2001 and ARRIVAL... back 9-10 years ago.,,would have been ground breaking.
not many bands were doing that yet.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:37 am**

lights1961 wrote:
Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

it would not surprise me if they inserted this DVD with the new CD that comes out later this fall Or whenever... to make sure the new music actually gets sold...

Or pack it on the Blu-Ray release of the Manila show.

I'd be ok with this if it meant getting the Manila DVD on Blu Ray. I don't really need any more coasters, but I'd find a use for it.

I want to see it. It follows the band and you see behind the scenes of the tour, and I'm fascinated to see how Arnel was taking it all in on his first tour.

THE FANS WILL EAT The history of the band... thats why to me its a no brainer to wait until the new CD gets out...
its too bad they did not do this with journey live 2001 and ARRIVAL... back 9-10 years ago.,,would have been ground breaking.
not many bands were doing that yet.

This doc isn't about the history of the band before Pineda's inclusion. It is centered around Arnel's back story, and then from the time Neal called him until the end of 2008 tour.

Rock documentaries are pouring out of the woodwork over the last year. It's like everyone got the idea at the same time.

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:25 pm**

They are missing the boat...

Posted: **Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:34 pm**

The website is still up and says coming in 2010 but there have been no recent updates. Last I heard, Visit films of NY was interested in it. Information is scarce out there. http://www.everymansjourney.com/

Found this:

Here: http://arnelpineda.ning.com/forum/topic ... ocumentary

A note from Producers:

----------

Hi everyone - first, let us apologize that we have not reached out in so long!!!!! Sincerely sorry.

As most of you know this film is unfunded and we have always done it on our own credit cards and with the help of losta of great crew members that agreed to work now and get paid later. So money has always been the hold up with the film.

After we were on Oprah things started to happen. We are beginning to edit and still plan on finishing this year. What usually happens is the film gets finished, enter it into some film festivals then hopefully a distributor picks it up that will bring it to a theater near you in the US and internationally. Then of course you could buy a dvd after the theatrical release. That is the process we are looking to happen with this film.

We still have a long way to go, but we have gone through all the footage and we think we have a great film and we are so excited.

Thank you for your emails and questions and support and we promise to keep you updated!!!!

Sincerely,
Capella & Ramona
Producer & Director
Everymans Journey

www.EverymansJourney.com

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:04 am**

Gunbot wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
portland wrote:
steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Maybe they have told it so much that no one cares anymore????

it would not surprise me if they inserted this DVD with the new CD that comes out later this fall Or whenever... to make sure the new music actually gets sold...

Or pack it on the Blu-Ray release of the Manila show.

I'd be ok with this if it meant getting the Manila DVD on Blu Ray. I don't really need any more coasters, but I'd find a use for it.

I want to see it. It follows the band and you see behind the scenes of the tour, and I'm fascinated to see how Arnel was taking it all in on his first tour.

THE FANS WILL EAT The history of the band... thats why to me its a no brainer to wait until the new CD gets out...
its too bad they did not do this with journey live 2001 and ARRIVAL... back 9-10 years ago.,,would have been ground breaking.
not many bands were doing that yet.

This doc isn't about the history of the band before Pineda's inclusion. It is centered around Arnel's back story, and then from the time Neal called him until the end of 2008 tour.

Rock documentaries are pouring out of the woodwork over the last year. It's like everyone got the idea at the same time.

I was thinking that the documentary was going to be central to AP story...but have some past history of the band too?? I am wrong?

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:56 am**

A synopsis form the film maker's site.

DON’T STOP BELIEVIN’: EVERYMAN’S JOURNEY

A Film By Ramona S. Diaz

This film transcends generations. On one hand, this is a documentary for the post-YouTube, post-American Idol generation. It is an aspirational, rags-to-riches story set against the backdrop of some of the most anthemic songs of recent rock n’ roll history. This generation may not necessarily know the provenance of the songs, but they know they’ve heard it somewhere before – at a ball game, as a soundtrack to a movie, TV show (including the last episode of the Sopranos) or a commercial, on their parents’ Ipod.

On the other hand, it is for their elders – their mothers and fathers and aunts and uncles – whose memories dance with images of Camaros, platform shoes, and Miami Vice.

THE STORY

How it started: halfway around the world Journey, the iconic, quintessentially American rock band who recorded 8 platinum-certified albums during their heyday between 1978–1986, has chosen a lead singer in a manner befitting this internet age: they found him through YouTube.

Filipino Arnel Pineda had been singing Journey songs for many years with his cover band Zoo in clubs all over Manila, his hometown, and posting their performances on YouTube. Arnel grew up in poverty; his mother died when he was 12 years old and he ended up on the streets. “I would hang out with my friends and they would make me sing in exchange for food. I’d tag along just so I could eat. Then we would go to the park and I’d sleep there with other homeless kids.” He worked at the pier in Manila Bay gathering scrap metal, bottles, and newspapers for eight pesos (20 cents) a day. At night, he would roam the bars in bohemian Manila, singing here and there, meeting other urban nomads with whom he would, over the years, form - and dissolve - bands. In 1991, he relocated to Hong Kong where he would live and perform for fifteen years. He lost his voice twice in the intervening years: once in 1995 due to drugs and alcohol and again in 2005 due to exhaustion and TMJ dysfunction. He decided to move back to Manila in 2006. By then he “had a little dream to make it big in the Philippines, just alone in the Philippines. Suddenly, I got this call from Neal Schon…and here I am.”

Neal Schon, Journey’s legendary guitarist, was half a world away in Northern California. He was frustrated about not having found a lead singer. Since the band’s most famous and distinctive frontman Steve Perry—whose power ballads catapulted the band to super stardom, filling stadiums all over the country — exited the band in the 90’s, it had been a revolving door for Journey vocalists.   “I was pretty much aware of everybody out there. There’re plenty of guys that you could use to get through a tour. I was looking for something a little more special than that.”   Schon decided to trawl the Internet for singers and there, after days of looking and almost giving up, he discovered Arnel covering Journey songs with his band in Manila.

“After watching the videos over and over again, I had to walk away from the computer and let what I heard sink in because it sounded too good to be true. I thought, 'he can't be that good.' I tried to get a hold of him and I finally heard from him that night, but it took some convincing to get him to believe that it really was me and not an impostor."   After literally singing for his US visa and a couple of live auditions and recording sessions later, Arnel was offered the gig as Journey’s frontman.

MEDIA ATTENTION & FAN ADULATION

As the mainstream took notice, Journey found itself in a media moment. They were on television for the first time since 1981; GQ did a spread; People Magazine photographed them as they rehearsed. Even Rolling Stones “who’s never cared for Journey in our entire career,” quips bass guitarist Ross Valory, came calling.

Will this be the “resurgence of Journey,” as keyboardist and songwriter Jonathan Cain claims? “He’s completely rejuvenated the band…he’s got so much energy, he’s really got the performer blood in him. The guy’s the future of our franchise.” By all indications, the fans have remained loyal and new ones have been found: it just might be the beginning of their second act. When Revelation, their 2-disc CD and DVD set was released on June 4, 2008 it was a New York Times critics’ choice, selling 45,000 albums in its first three days on sale, despite being offered exclusively though Walmart stores, enough units for it to debut at number five on Billboard’s Top 200 albums chart. (The album was eventually nominated for Classic Rock Magazine's Album of the Year and certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America.)

QUESTIONS & DOUBTS PERSIST

And what do the considerable number of hardcore Journey fans worldwide - many of whom still long for Steve Perry - think of this new hire? The blogs are abuzz and there is, as Paul Liberatore of the Marin Independent Journal puts it, “an undercurrent of racism among some Journey fans.” “It’s both a blessing and a curse” says Arnel, “because up there on the stage I’ll be facing a lot of hard core Journey fans who will be comparing me to “the voice,” Steve Perry. Not only am I not Perry, I’m not even white. But it’s okay, it’s okay, I’ll take that hit head on.”

And what of Arnel Pineda himself? In this age of globalization, how will a non-white foreigner fronting a classic American band change the very nature of the group and possibly expand its fan base?   How will he successfully sell songs about being “born and raised in South Detroit”? On the eve of the tour, Arnel teeters between being overwhelmed – “Until now, I can’t believe I’m rock and rolling with these legends” – and, like the seasoned professional that he is, being realistic. “It’s a job that I have to do well. But everything that has a beginning has an end. When all this craziness is over, I’ll just go back to the basics.” And, more urgently, will his voice hold? “I sure hope so,” he reassures himself.

On a more personal end, how long will this dream last and can he live up to expectations? Right now, he is like a kid in a candy store living out his dream, but he is also weathered and homesick with no real family around him, and even he is not sure how long this will last. Given the fickle nature of fate, will he able to remain the tremendous source of pride for his country, not to mention his deceased mother and three kids, who are the inspiration behind his hard work?   Or will his superstar status fizzle before it even sizzles? As the band tries to navigate the difficult task of preserving a legacy and moving on with their new “Thrilla of Manila”at the same time, can they turn this media moment into something more than just a footnote in their thirty-year career? Will Arnel return home with Journey, to the place where it all started, a global superstar? And just how will his journey affect him and the band? Only time will tell.

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:44 am**

I think a documentary about Journey is a great idea, but the more I think about it, it should cover the entire history of the band within about 2 hours. The documentary that was to be mainly about Arnel may have worked out ok in a different period of time but surely this story has been told so much now that the film will not have as much impact today as it might have 2 years ago.

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:51 am**

You know who's story has got out there, especially among the women? Charice. Almost all the ladies in my office knows of her from Oprah and can tell you her whole back story. The girl has already had one Hot 100 song and a top 40 dance track (and this has happened without her album even being released yet). She is really destined to to be the next big ASIAN SENSATION if David Foster promotes her right.

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:28 am**

Gunbot wrote:You know who's story has got out there, especially among the women? Charice. Almost all the ladies in my office knows of her from Oprah and can tell you her whole back story. The girl has already had one Hot 100 song and a top 40 dance track (and this has happened without her album even being released yet). She is really destined to to be the next big ASIAN SENSATION if David Foster promotes her right.

I think that is right... cbs sunday morning did a profile on Foster about 4-8 months ago...and says I found this new singer from Asian desent and her name is Charice, he thought she was going to be a star...

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:04 am**

steveo777 wrote:I think a documentary about Journey is a great idea, but the more I think about it, it should cover the entire history of the band within about 2 hours. The documentary that was to be mainly about Arnel may have worked out ok in a different period of time but surely this story has been told so much now that the film will not have as much impact today as it might have 2 years ago.

I agree. The story has died way down and honestly if they aren't going to do the entire history how many people will want to see it honestly?

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:42 am**

Things have come full circle, haven't they? The loons were told time and again that the band wasn't just about the vocalist, yet here we are focusing only on Arnel, with the rest of the band taking a backseat. The disparity between the two singers in relationship to contributions to the group is obviously immense. I understand the band letting Pineda have his moment in the sun but how many times can you tell the same old sob story?

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:18 am**

Gunbot wrote:Things have come full circle, haven't they? The loons were told time and again that the band wasn't just about the vocalist, yet here we are focusing only on Arnel, with the rest of the band taking a backseat. The disparity between the two singers in relationship to contributions to the group is obviously immense. I understand the band letting Pineda have his moment in the sun but how many times can you tell the same old sob story?

Exactly, and the fairtale phase is over so now is the time that Journey needs to come out with a kick ass album because the cinderella story is no longer going to perpetuate record sales.

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:44 pm**

http://www.visitfilms.com/VisitFilms/Do ... ievin.html

This thing might still be on. They have a 2011 date posted now at Visit films and a slightly different trailer.

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:47 pm**

steveo777 wrote:http://www.visitfilms.com/VisitFilms/Dont_Stop_Believin.html

This thing might still be on. They have a 2011 date posted now at Visit films and a slightly different trailer.

I didn't see it on Cannes screening list. I'll check it again in a few days. Must still need a distributor if it's been pushed until 2011.

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:49 pm**

Gunbot wrote:
steveo777 wrote:http://www.visitfilms.com/VisitFilms/Dont_Stop_Believin.html

This thing might still be on. They have a 2011 date posted now at Visit films and a slightly different trailer.

I didn't see it on Cannes screening list. I'll check it again in a few days. Must still need a distributor if it's been pushed until 2011.

I don't think it screened at Cannes at all. Seems I remember it being at a different film festival. I could be wrong.

Posted: **Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:16 pm**

Cannes is still a few weeks away. I remember the Director/producer saying she wanted to get it submitted. I know they screened it at a German festival a little while back.

Posted: **Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:13 am**

steveo777 wrote:They decided to tell the story on Oprah instead.

The whole idea seems to have run out of steam somewhere. I wonder if it was budget?
You'd think maybe Journey / Azoff music management might want to subsidize this.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1308756/

Time has come and passed. I'd say "it's dead Jim".

Sounds about right.

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:08 am**

Andrew wrote:They are missing the boat...

Did anything come out of Journey's budget in support of this documentary?

Posted: **Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:45 am**

I seem to remember something in one of the HH interviews that Journey & SP were prohibited from doing an autobiography or participating in a biography of the band as part of the contract for the split. I don't know what the timeframe was. Since this docu is basically an independent film about AP's life in Journey, it's probably not impacted by that contract. However, I would think this might prevent Journey or the band members involved in the contract to back this film without an agreement from everyone (i.e. SP).

This is just speculation from my memory (and I am getting older

), so maybe someone else remembers this differently. I'm too lazy to go look up the actual interview right now.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:37 am**

Gunbot wrote:Quite a few Rock Docs being released this year. Johnny Depp is doing narration on a few of them, the Doors being one. Did Journey ever get their film submitted for Cannes? The deadline for submissions has passed but I haven't heard a peep about it.

Speaking of . . . anyone see this yet?

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:42 am**

I'm guessing that this thing will be packaged together with the new album or released shortly after. Any publicity will help album sales and this film looks pretty interesting from the trailer. Maybe a return trip to the Oprah show or Ellen?

MR

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