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Bill Graham memorial concert...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:35 pm
by fredinator
I don't know how I got the clip of Neal, SP and JC on my mp3 player but I heard it today on there vs youtube or whatever the media was the first time I heard it. I was flat out amazed by both clips. SP sounded the same to me as he always did--maybe a little quieter or weaker or whatever term would work better but the underlying voice was there no mistake about it (to me, of course). And Neal's playing was breathtaking--it sounded as though he knew exactly what notes to play for SP as the song went along and they wove their instruments together into a beautiful, sad, glorious melody; I even got some tears when SP sang that beginning of Lights (that prelude I'm not too familiar with but I've been humming to myself for hours, lol) and Neal played exactly as though to underscore the beauty of the song but not to dominate it... There is almost nothing on earth like those 2 when they play together... I've read on here where a lot of peeps think that SP got up there and sang without any rehearsal or practice and if he did, I just can't believe that there is anything really seriously wrong with his voice even today. Talking me out of this idea is going to be difficult, lol. Well, I feel myself starting to ramble. However, listening to those 2 clips today made me realize again why I love Journey so much.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:47 pm
by slucero
forgot I had this... for those of you who don't ... enjoy... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60R2R7UxVUo

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:11 am
by Art Vandelay
It's amazing how much debate there is about this performance...and I'm sure a few fires will start up on this thread as well. So many people are critical of it, and I can understand why, to a point. It's not the most polished performance, and the 'legend' that goes with it (Perry forgot the lyrics, yadda yadda yadda) only add a bit of tarnish.
But, people tend to put too much stock in things that they've read or heard from others, and somehow decide to preach it as gospel.

I said this on another post...you take from it what you make of it. Personally, I love the performance and take it for what it is...an emotional moment at a memorial. Perry's voice wasn't 100% for sure, but everyone forgets that he wasn't singing for a few years at this point. No time for rehearsal. And considering that most of the crowd were Dead-heads, Perry did a hell of a job trying to connect with the crowd. To me (I'll say it again...to ME), it's still a magical moment in the band's history.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:17 am
by Michigan Girl
Art Vandelay wrote:It's amazing how much debate there is about this performance...and I'm sure a few fires will start up on this thread as well. So many people are critical of it, and I can understand why, to a point. It's not the most polished performance, and the 'legend' that goes with it (Perry forgot the lyrics, yadda yadda yadda) only add a bit of tarnish.
But, people tend to put too much stock in things that they've read or heard from others, and somehow decide to preach it as gospel.

I said this on another post...you take from it what you make of it. Personally, I love the performance and take it for what it is...an emotional moment at a memorial. Perry's voice wasn't 100% for sure, but everyone forgets that he wasn't singing for a few years at this point. No time for rehearsal. And considering that most of the crowd were Dead-heads, Perry did a hell of a job trying to connect with the crowd. To me (I'll say it again...to ME), it's still a magical moment in the band's history.

Very well stated, Art ...NICE!! Yes, you'll find a few youtubers around here that will post tubes from this event
in an attempt to prove Perry's voice was failing him ...even then!! M-M-M ...for shame!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:16 am
by lights1961
OOOOH... that was simply fantastic... the body language between the three said a lot didnt it??? .. but the music GAVE me chills...
and think about this... that was the first time they played since what 1986 or whenever ROR tour ended?? DANG that sounded good.

WHAT COULD OF HAVE BEEN AFTER that... THAT WAS HISTORY for sure...

Thanks for the clip!!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:59 am
by Tomulator
That undeniable "magic" between the three of them is EXACTLY why I no longer follow the band.

Without SP...it just isn't "magical".

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:16 am
by Since 78
Yep, Neal was great as usual! 8) Oh and of course the beak, man, what a schnoz on that guy!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:46 am
by Eric
Tomulator wrote:That undeniable "magic" between the three of them is EXACTLY why I no longer follow the band.

Without SP...it just isn't "magical".


THAT...was magical?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:15 am
by Don
Don't make me pull out the rice card.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:25 am
by Michigan Girl
I am LMAO @ ^^^^... :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:41 am
by Since 78
Michigan Girl wrote:I am LMAO @ ^^^^... :wink:


Yes, he is quite comical.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:04 am
by Don
I'm off the chain.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:34 am
by Art Vandelay
Eric wrote:
Tomulator wrote:That undeniable "magic" between the three of them is EXACTLY why I no longer follow the band.

Without SP...it just isn't "magical".


THAT...was magical?


Considering these guys haven't spoken to each other since early '87, and Perry was completely off the radar...for the time, yes. Yes, it was magical.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:36 am
by lights1961
Art Vandelay wrote:
Eric wrote:
Tomulator wrote:That undeniable "magic" between the three of them is EXACTLY why I no longer follow the band.

Without SP...it just isn't "magical".


THAT...was magical?


Considering these guys haven't spoken to each other since early '87, and Perry was completely off the radar...for the time, yes. Yes, it was magical.


spot on!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:43 am
by Jana
lights1961 wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Eric wrote:
Tomulator wrote:That undeniable "magic" between the three of them is EXACTLY why I no longer follow the band.

Without SP...it just isn't "magical".


THAT...was magical?


Considering these guys haven't spoken to each other since early '87, and Perry was completely off the radar...for the time, yes. Yes, it was magical.


spot on!


I agree. When you see you favorite band reunited unexpectedly on stage together, it's very moving, and especially at this memorial. Of course, I guess not so moving for Perry as he did nada with them for years after that and moved on to his next project, solo in 94. :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:49 am
by Tomulator
Eric wrote:
Tomulator wrote:That undeniable "magic" between the three of them is EXACTLY why I no longer follow the band.

Without SP...it just isn't "magical".


THAT...was magical?


Compared to the current "lineup"...

YES.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:00 am
by Since 78
Tomulator wrote:
Eric wrote:
Tomulator wrote:That undeniable "magic" between the three of them is EXACTLY why I no longer follow the band.

Without SP...it just isn't "magical".


THAT...was magical?


Compared to the current "lineup"...

YES.


Ahh, what do you know anyway? You're just a cat. :roll:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:46 am
by Saint John
That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:27 am
by Jana
who noticed if his voice wasn't the same as it was. He looked gorgeous in his black jeans and purple shirt and long hair.. :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:30 am
by parfait
Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


I agree with you; a lot of it sucked ass. But Steve Perry was there. Who the fuck cares if he messed up the lyrics. He's Steve Motherfucking Perry.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:52 am
by Saint John
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


I agree with you; a lot of it sucked ass. But Steve Perry was there. Who the fuck cares if he messed up the lyrics. He's Steve Motherfucking Perry.


Fucking up lyrics has gone on since the dawn of time, but showing up like that and fucking them up is a different story. And asking someone to write down the lyrics to a song you've sung a few hundred times isn't really indicative of class or professionalism, considering the event.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:06 am
by parfait
Saint John wrote:
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


I agree with you; a lot of it sucked ass. But Steve Perry was there. Who the fuck cares if he messed up the lyrics. He's Steve Motherfucking Perry.


Fucking up lyrics has gone on since the dawn of time, but showing up like that and fucking them up is a different story. And asking someone to write down the lyrics to a song you've sung a few hundred times isn't really indicative of class or professionalism, considering the event.


Stop believing everything you read on the internet already. You're not a moron, so stop acting like one. :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:08 am
by Saint John
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


I agree with you; a lot of it sucked ass. But Steve Perry was there. Who the fuck cares if he messed up the lyrics. He's Steve Motherfucking Perry.


Fucking up lyrics has gone on since the dawn of time, but showing up like that and fucking them up is a different story. And asking someone to write down the lyrics to a song you've sung a few hundred times isn't really indicative of class or professionalism, considering the event.


Stop believing everything you read on the internet already. You're not a moron, so stop acting like one. :wink:


What the fuck are you talking about? :?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:14 am
by parfait
Saint John wrote:
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


I agree with you; a lot of it sucked ass. But Steve Perry was there. Who the fuck cares if he messed up the lyrics. He's Steve Motherfucking Perry.


Fucking up lyrics has gone on since the dawn of time, but showing up like that and fucking them up is a different story. And asking someone to write down the lyrics to a song you've sung a few hundred times isn't really indicative of class or professionalism, considering the event.


Stop believing everything you read on the internet already. You're not a moron, so stop acting like one. :wink:


What the fuck are you talking about? :?


Highlighted it for you.

You don't know what or what didn't happen, so don't state it like it's some fact - cause it's not.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:25 am
by ChildInTime
Yeah, didn't Herbie H. say that? He seems to, uh, stretch the truth a bit when it comes to ol' Steev-O. Just because of his tone and because of the obvious grudge he has against him... I'd listen to whatever he has to say with about a tablespoon of salt, never mind just a grain!! :P

PS: And for the record, yes, Steev fucked up on Faithfully, but he did a fine job on Lights all things considering.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:44 am
by SF-Dano
I was there. It was a magical day all around. This whole memorial concert was thrown together very quickly (a little more that a week if I recall correctly). The fact that Steve even showed was a character + for him in my book. And I have been very critical of his character on other issues. Sure it wasn't perfect, but it was spur of the moment.

It was a great day of music and memories, something San Francisco has not seen the likes of since.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:12 am
by Saint John
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


I agree with you; a lot of it sucked ass. But Steve Perry was there. Who the fuck cares if he messed up the lyrics. He's Steve Motherfucking Perry.


Fucking up lyrics has gone on since the dawn of time, but showing up like that and fucking them up is a different story. And asking someone to write down the lyrics to a song you've sung a few hundred times isn't really indicative of class or professionalism, considering the event.


Stop believing everything you read on the internet already. You're not a moron, so stop acting like one. :wink:


What the fuck are you talking about? :?


Highlighted it for you.

You don't know what or what didn't happen, so don't state it like it's some fact - cause it's not.


Whatever, le douche. :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:07 pm
by Art Vandelay
Saint John wrote:
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


I agree with you; a lot of it sucked ass. But Steve Perry was there. Who the fuck cares if he messed up the lyrics. He's Steve Motherfucking Perry.


Fucking up lyrics has gone on since the dawn of time, but showing up like that and fucking them up is a different story. And asking someone to write down the lyrics to a song you've sung a few hundred times isn't really indicative of class or professionalism, considering the event.


Geez, you must own a nice collection of purchased bridges....has Herbie tried to sell you the Golden Gate yet?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:47 pm
by Ftloperry
For someone who at the time hadn't listen to music for 2 years and hadn't sang in almost 4 years that was not a bad performance at all by Steve. It was spur of the moment and the fact that Journey was asked to take part in the memorial and that Steve came and sang makes it all that much more special as well as magical. :D

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:23 pm
by Saint John
Art Vandelay wrote:
Saint John wrote:
parfait wrote:
Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


I agree with you; a lot of it sucked ass. But Steve Perry was there. Who the fuck cares if he messed up the lyrics. He's Steve Motherfucking Perry.


Fucking up lyrics has gone on since the dawn of time, but showing up like that and fucking them up is a different story. And asking someone to write down the lyrics to a song you've sung a few hundred times isn't really indicative of class or professionalism, considering the event.


Geez, you must own a nice collection of purchased bridges....has Herbie tried to sell you the Golden Gate yet?


Settle down, Artie. :lol: