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Best Cain or Schon-written song for another artist?
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Mon May 10, 2010 8:59 amby Idiosyncrasy
Neal and Jon have provided some other artists with some great songs over the years - what's your favourite?
Two of mine are -
Last Frontier - Jimmy Barnes (best song the album, hands down IMO!)
You're All That I Need - Michael Bolton (love the whoa-oh coda!)
- Danny.
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Mon May 10, 2010 9:29 amby brywool
Allies. Heart.
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Mon May 10, 2010 9:31 amby Don
brywool wrote:Allies. Heart.
I agree with this.
Re: Best Cain or Schon-written song for another artist?
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Mon May 10, 2010 3:10 pmby kgdjpubs
Idiosyncrasy wrote:Neal and Jon have provided some other artists with some great songs over the years - what's your favourite?
Last Frontier - Jimmy Barnes (best song the album, hands down IMO!)
- Danny.
There's some great material on the Freight Train Heart album, but that one might be the best of the bunch--and the live version was even better.
The title track from Barnes' Working Class Man album may well be the most successful song written by members of Journey done by an outside artist. I'd be very surprised if any others came close to this one.
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Mon May 10, 2010 4:34 pmby Blueskies
brywool wrote:Allies. Heart.
Wow! I didn't know they wrote this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cYsOtwxkII
Great song! Thanks!
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Mon May 10, 2010 8:20 pmby WykkedSensation
I agree. Always been a little partial to this one actually. It rocks no matter what anyone says.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_mioI0WX6I
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Mon May 10, 2010 9:01 pmby Memorex
I'm partial to Eric Martin's version of Just One Night. The Triumph version is excellent too.
Eric:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suRobs4B7mM
Triumph:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVtsKuj22vQ&feature=fvst
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Thu May 20, 2010 4:47 amby brandonx76
Hey all...
Speaking of songs written by Journey alumn...there was an album that was around '88 or 89 mentioned here a few months back (maybe more). I think Neal and Smith played on it too - does anyone recall the album? I was looking back through old posts but couldn't find where it was mentioned.
Any info appreciated.
Thx
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Thu May 20, 2010 4:56 amby jrnyman28
Well, for rarity, Just If I was an album with Neal and Mike Reno of Loverboy. Don't know about Smitty, but don't think so...I think this album was earlier than what you're asking.
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Thu May 20, 2010 5:00 amby Eric
Love this tune...they ought to give it to Arnel to play with
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Thu May 20, 2010 7:04 amby brywool
I THINK only Cain was in on this
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Thu May 20, 2010 11:12 amby Marzdog
brywool wrote:I THINK only Cain was in on this
Yes, written by Cain alone. Also, David Paich on piano with Steve Porcaro on synth.
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Thu May 20, 2010 1:03 pmby Idiosyncrasy
brandonpfn wrote:Hey all...
Speaking of songs written by Journey alumn...there was an album that was around '88 or 89 mentioned here a few months back (maybe more). I think Neal and Smith played on it too - does anyone recall the album? I was looking back through old posts but couldn't find where it was mentioned.
Any info appreciated.
Thx
Are you thinking of Witness - s/t? Neal wrote Borrowed Time and Back To You and Smitty plays on there too.
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Thu May 20, 2010 1:09 pmby Idiosyncrasy
While we're at it, let's not forget "Megaforce" by 707 (co-written by Schon) and "This Could Be the Night" by Loverboy
I'm also fond of "Can't Hide Love" by Stan Bush and "Remember the Heroes" by Sammy Hagar (both Cain co-writes).
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Thu May 20, 2010 1:12 pmby Don
Smitty drummed on a number one song back in 85.
Half way through the recording session, drummer Mickey Curry announced that he had to leave since he committed in advance to a Hall & Oates session. Curry had warned Adams about his limited availability that day. The recording session for “Heaven” was running behind schedule and Adams called Journey drummer Steve Smith. Smith happened to be in New York at the time and he filled Curry’s drumming position.
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Thu May 20, 2010 1:14 pmby Rick
Gunbot wrote:Smitty drummed on a number one song back in 85.
Half way through the recording session, drummer Mickey Curry announced that he had to leave since he committed in advance to a Hall & Oates session. Curry had warned Adams about his limited availability that day. The recording session for “Heaven” was running behind schedule and Adams called Journey drummer Steve Smith. Smith happened to be in New York at the time and he filled Curry’s drumming position.
I never knew that. Thanks for posting the info Gunny.
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Thu May 20, 2010 1:17 pmby Idiosyncrasy
Does this one sound like an outtake from Freight Train Heart or what?! It's about the same era, so could well be!
Rossington Band - Welcome Me Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZovvOL0JgW4
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Thu May 20, 2010 1:22 pmby G.I.Jim
Idiosyncrasy wrote:While we're at it, let's not forget "Megaforce" by 707 (co-written by Schon) and "This Could Be the Night" by Loverboy
I'm also fond of "Can't Hide Love" by Stan Bush and "Remember the Heroes" by Sammy Hagar (both Cain co-writes).
It was only Cain that worked on "This Could Be The Night". They had already written the song, but they just needed help polishing it up and Cain helped them finish it.
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Thu May 20, 2010 2:31 pmby kgdjpubs
Wow, I'm impressed. Did a little bit of looking, and it appears you are right.
http://www.answers.com/topic/love-your-man-bonus-tracks
Welcome Me Home Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain, Jimmy Barnes The Rossington Band (4:43)
Certainly fits the style of I Wanna Get Started With You, which was the other Barnes/Schon/Cain co-write, and I hear Barnes' vocal all over this one. Very cool indeed.
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Fri May 21, 2010 5:26 amby Hollywood
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Thu May 27, 2010 12:15 amby maverick218
Does anyone know if Neal and Jonathan actually played on this song? I can possibly hear Jonathan's keyboards, but the guitar/solo doesn't sound like something Neal would do...
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Thu May 27, 2010 8:27 pmby WykkedSensation
maverick218 wrote:Does anyone know if Neal and Jonathan actually played on this song? I can possibly hear Jonathan's keyboards, but the guitar/solo doesn't sound like something Neal would do...
Definately Schon on guitar, can hear it clearly.
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Fri May 28, 2010 3:13 pmby annie89509
Wow, that could pass for a Journey song --- complete with Neal's shredding and the "whoa whoa's".
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Sun May 30, 2010 2:37 amby Monker
jrnyman28 wrote:Well, for rarity, Just If I was an album with Neal and Mike Reno of Loverboy. Don't know about Smitty, but don't think so...I think this album was earlier than what you're asking.
Just-If-I came out in the early 90's. It's definitely worth seeking out though.
Re: Best Cain or Schon-written song for another artist?
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Sun May 30, 2010 2:38 amby Monker
Idiosyncrasy wrote:Neal and Jon have provided some other artists with some great songs over the years - what's your favourite?
Two of mine are -
Last Frontier - Jimmy Barnes (best song the album, hands down IMO!)
You're All That I Need - Michael Bolton (love the whoa-oh coda!)
- Danny.
If you were talking about all Journey members, I would say the two Storm albums are the best, by a long ways.
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Mon May 31, 2010 3:16 amby brandonx76
Idiosyncrasy wrote:brandonpfn wrote:Hey all...
Speaking of songs written by Journey alumn...there was an album that was around '88 or 89 mentioned here a few months back (maybe more). I think Neal and Smith played on it too - does anyone recall the album? I was looking back through old posts but couldn't find where it was mentioned.
Any info appreciated.
Thx
Are you thinking of Witness - s/t? Neal wrote Borrowed Time and Back To You and Smitty plays on there too.
That sounds like it....thanks , going to try tracking it down.
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Mon May 31, 2010 6:09 amby Idiosyncrasy
Yeah, the two Storm albums are brilliant. Eye of the Storm is the better of the two in my opinion. I've never heard Kevin Chalfant sing as well as does on those two records.
Of course, the two Bad English albums are stunning too. I love Tough Times Don't Last, The Restless Ones, Price of Love, Straight to Your Heart, and Rebel Say a Prayer in particular.
Oddly, I don't think there's any Bad English songs that instantly remind me of Journey (but maybe that's just me). Does anyone else hear a strong Journey influence in any of Journey's songs? Any tracks that could have been on a Journey record?
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Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:44 amby Deb
No surprise......I'm partial to the original also. But really like Triumph's (a little edgier) version too, and Gil does a good job on the vocals there.
Another collaboration of Eric & Neal's............. No Turning Back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f4sQbchOoU
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Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:48 pmby kgdjpubs
Idiosyncrasy wrote:
Oddly, I don't think there's any Bad English songs that instantly remind me of Journey (but maybe that's just me). Does anyone else hear a strong Journey influence in any of Journey's songs? Any tracks that could have been on a Journey record?
There are a few here and there (chorus of Rebel Say a Prayer seems to stand out a bit if memory serves)....but everything is masked by a very strong John Waite vocal phrasing. Love him or hate him, he has a very...unique way of singing, and doesn't really sound like anybody else out there. Lose that and replace it with a very Motown-influenced Perryish vocal feel, and you'd hear a bit of Journey in places.
Re: Best Cain or Schon-written song for another artist?
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Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:25 amby Eric
Monker wrote:Idiosyncrasy wrote:Neal and Jon have provided some other artists with some great songs over the years - what's your favourite?
Two of mine are -
Last Frontier - Jimmy Barnes (best song the album, hands down IMO!)
You're All That I Need - Michael Bolton (love the whoa-oh coda!)
- Danny.
If you were talking about all Journey members, I would say the two Storm albums are the best, by a long ways.
I'd take Bad English over The Storm, except the best song out of them is definitely "I've got a lot to learn about love".