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Neal Schon Exclusive: Journey Plot Their Return
gbarton / Features, News, Top Posts / 27/05/2010 16:39pm

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news ... ir-return/

Journey are currently in the studio with producer Kevin Shirley (Aerosmith/Led Zeppelin/Iron Maiden) in the early stages of creating a follow-up to Revelation, the band’s 2008 album which introduced their latest lead singer, Arnel Pineda.

Words: Dave Ling

The group face this task with the wind in their metaphorical sails after two rival versions of their power ballad Don’t Stop Believin’ – the original from 1981’s album Escape and a re-make that featured in the children’s TV show Glee – battled it out in the UK’s Top 10 singles chart earlier this year.

“[The song’s success is] brilliant for us and bands like us,” maintains Schon.

“If people think Don’t Stop Believin’ is a Glee song and not one of ours, I don’t mind. Those are brand new fans – I’m happy they like the song, period.

“We did really well the last time we toured in the UK [in June 2008], also playing at [last year’s] Download, so we’ve taken the rest of the year off to prepare this new CD. Things are on the up-and-up for us over there. It’s great to know that doors are finally opening.

“We’re going to be here [in the studio] for a little bit over a month,” he continues. “Overdubs and vocals are going really well. Kevin has to run off to another project, so we will come back and sing some more in November. The material is extremely strong.”

Expect the as-yet untitled record to be released next spring.

Given that Don’t Stop Believin’ has been officially recognised as the most downloaded song of all time (“Bigger than [anything by] Led Zeppelin or The Beatles, that’s mind-boggling,” marvels Schon), Journey are already planning to play in the UK in 2011.

“The promoters are keen to have us back as [bona fide] headliners, and we’re excited to be coming as part of our next world tour,” sums up Neal.

Chubby321 wrote:Neal Schon Exclusive: Journey Plot Their Return
gbarton / Features, News, Top Posts / 27/05/2010 16:39pm

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news ... ir-return/

Journey are currently in the studio with producer Kevin Shirley (Aerosmith/Led Zeppelin/Iron Maiden) in the early stages of creating a follow-up to Revelation, the band’s 2008 album which introduced their latest lead singer, Arnel Pineda.

Words: Dave Ling

The group face this task with the wind in their metaphorical sails after two rival versions of their power ballad Don’t Stop Believin’ – the original from 1981’s album Escape and a re-make that featured in the children’s TV show Glee – battled it out in the UK’s Top 10 singles chart earlier this year.

“[The song’s success is] brilliant for us and bands like us,” maintains Schon.

“If people think Don’t Stop Believin’ is a Glee song and not one of ours, I don’t mind. Those are brand new fans – I’m happy they like the song, period.

“We did really well the last time we toured in the UK [in June 2008], also playing at [last year’s] Download, so we’ve taken the rest of the year off to prepare this new CD. Things are on the up-and-up for us over there. It’s great to know that doors are finally opening.

“We’re going to be here [in the studio] for a little bit over a month,” he continues. “Overdubs and vocals are going really well. Kevin has to run off to another project, so we will come back and sing some more in November. The material is extremely strong.”

Expect the as-yet untitled record to be released next spring.

Given that Don’t Stop Believin’ has been officially recognised as the most downloaded song of all time (“Bigger than [anything by] Led Zeppelin or The Beatles, that’s mind-boggling,” marvels Schon), Journey are already planning to play in the UK in 2011.

“The promoters are keen to have us back as [bona fide] headliners, and we’re excited to be coming as part of our next world tour,” sums up Neal.

Hey Chubs!! I posted the same article but deleted it.

The UK fans pestered promoters continuously to get Journey to the UK in 2006 and now look where they're at? Great job by the UK fans.

DSB had been downloaded more than the Beatles? Who would have THUNK it a few years ago.

Chubby321 wrote:Neal Schon Exclusive: Journey Plot Their Return
gbarton / Features, News, Top Posts / 27/05/2010 16:39pm

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news ... ir-return/

Journey are currently in the studio with producer Kevin Shirley (Aerosmith/Led Zeppelin/Iron Maiden) in the early stages of creating a follow-up to Revelation, the band’s 2008 album which introduced their latest lead singer, Arnel Pineda.

Words: Dave Ling

The group face this task with the wind in their metaphorical sails after two rival versions of their power ballad Don’t Stop Believin’ – the original from 1981’s album Escape and a re-make that featured in the children’s TV show Glee – battled it out in the UK’s Top 10 singles chart earlier this year.

“[The song’s success is] brilliant for us and bands like us,” maintains Schon.

“If people think Don’t Stop Believin’ is a Glee song and not one of ours, I don’t mind. Those are brand new fans – I’m happy they like the song, period.

“We did really well the last time we toured in the UK [in June 2008], also playing at [last year’s] Download, so we’ve taken the rest of the year off to prepare this new CD. Things are on the up-and-up for us over there. It’s great to know that doors are finally opening.

“We’re going to be here [in the studio] for a little bit over a month,” he continues. “Overdubs and vocals are going really well. Kevin has to run off to another project, so we will come back and sing some more in November. The material is extremely strong.”

Expect the as-yet untitled record to be released next spring.

Given that Don’t Stop Believin’ has been officially recognised as the most downloaded song of all time (“Bigger than [anything by] Led Zeppelin or The Beatles, that’s mind-boggling,” marvels Schon), Journey are already planning to play in the UK in 2011.

“The promoters are keen to have us back as [bona fide] headliners, and we’re excited to be coming as part of our next world tour,” sums up Neal.

This writer needs to quit with the ass kissing.

What is not clarified is that it's the most downloaded catalog track of all time, it's not even in the Top 30 for most downloaded song of all time.
Maybe the reason it has more downloads than The Beatles and Led Zeppelin is because those fans actually buy entire albums.

Artist Certified Units in Millions
BEATLES, THE 176
BROOKS, GARTH 128
PRESLEY, ELVIS 120
LED ZEPPELIN 111.5
EAGLES 100
JOEL, BILLY 79.5
PINK FLOYD 74.5
STREISAND, BARBRA 71.5
AC/DC 71
JOHN, ELTON 70
JACKSON, MICHAEL 69.5
STRAIT, GEORGE 68.5
AEROSMITH 66.5
ROLLING STONES, THE 66
MADONNA 64
SPRINGSTEEN, BRUCE 64
CAREY, MARIAH 63
METALLICA 59
VAN HALEN 56.5
HOUSTON, WHITNEY 55
U2 51.5
ROGERS, KENNY 51
DION, CELINE 50
FLEETWOOD MAC 48.5
DIAMOND, NEIL 48.5
KENNY G 48
TWAIN, SHANIA 48
JOURNEY 47


Now, let's see how DSB has done in overall digital downloads.

1 FLO RIDA FEAT. T-PAIN LOW 5,053,174 Million
2 LADY GAGA FEAT. COLBY O'DONIS JUST DANCE 4,358,382
3 TIMBALAND FEAT. ONEREPUBLIC APOLOGIZE 4,349,625
4 MRAZ*JASON I'M YOURS 4,292,061
5 SOULJA BOY TELL'EM CRANK THAT (SOULJA BOY) 4,244,665
6 COLDPLAY VIVA LA VIDA 3,940,745
7 PERRY*KATY HOT N COLD 3,777,770
8 LEWIS*LEONA BLEEDING LOVE 3,758,947
9 SWIFT*TAYLOR LOVE STORY 3,722,057
10 LADY GAGA POKER FACE 3,713,766
11 WEST*KANYE STRONGER 3,690,471
12 FLO RIDA FEAT. KESHA RIGHT ROUND 3,631,074
13 PLAIN WHITE T'S HEY THERE DELILAH 3,548,743
14 LIL WAYNE FEAT. STATIC MAJOR LOLLIPOP 3,546,023
15 RIHANNA DISTURBIA 3,525,798
16 PERRY*KATY I KISSED A GIRL 3,518,067
17 BLACK EYED PEAS BOOM BOOM POW 3,515,172
18 PINK SO WHAT 3,475,765
19 T.I. FEAT. RIHANNA LIVE YOUR LIFE 3,467,644
20 T.I. WHATEVER YOU LIKE 3,407,510
21 RUDOLF*KEVIN LET IT ROCK 3,353,854
22 RIHANNA FEAT. JAY-Z UMBRELLA 3,341,923
23 FERGIE BIG GIRLS DON'T CRY 3,330,639
24 TIMBERLAKE*JUSTIN SEXYBACK 3,231,257
25 FRAY*THE HOW TO SAVE A LIFE 3,190,059
26 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS*THE GIVES YOU HELL 3,149,346
27 WEST*KANYE HEARTLESS 3,147,701
28 KEYS*ALICIA NO ONE 3,112,417
29 NICKELBACK ROCKSTAR 3,087,406
30 BAREILLES*SARA LOVE SONG 3,001,897
31 LAVIGNE*AVRIL GIRLFRIEND 2,993,591
32 CAILLAT*COLBIE BUBBLY 2,977,569
33 M.I.A. PAPER PLANES 2,963,462
34 SPARKS*JORDIN DUET WITH CHRIS NO AIR 2,957,066
35 JOURNEY DON'T STOP BELIEVIN' 2,909,993
36 BEYONCE SINGLE LADIES (PUT A RING ON I 2,890,960
37 POWTER*DANIEL BAD DAY 2,861,369
38 AKON FEAT. EMINEM SMACK THAT 2,830,098
39 SPEARS*BRITNEY WOMANIZER 2,777,614
40 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE BEFORE HE CHEATS 2,771,716
41 RIHANNA DON'T STOP THE MUSIC 2,761,309
42 FERGIE FERGALICIOUS 2,749,816
43 STEFANI*GWEN SWEET ESCAPE 2,739,282
44 WEST*KANYE LOVE LOCKDOWN 2,717,750
45 BEYONCE IRREPLACEABLE / IRREEMPLAZABLE 2,673,082
46 FERGIE FEAT. LUDACRIS GLAMOROUS 2,655,520
47 FINGER ELEVEN PARALYZER 2,645,363
48 TIMBALAND FEAT. KERI HILSON WAY I ARE 2,626,622
49 WEST*KANYE FEAT. JAMIE FOXX GOLD DIGGER 2,615,388
50 GNARLS BARKLEY CRAZY 2,607,465

Those promoters were looking to have Journey this year. An idea time would have been two months ago when you had two versions of DSB in the Top 10 and Journey's Greatest Hits in the Top 20. Now both versions of DSB are out of the Top 40 and the Greatest Hits have fallen off of the album chart.

Not the band's fault of course but could the timing to take a year off of touring have been any worse?

Don wrote:Those promoters were looking to have Journey this year. An idea time would have been two months ago when you had two versions of DSB in the Top 10 and Journey's Greatest Hits in the Top 20. Now both versions of DSB are out of the Top 40 and the Greatest Hits have fallen off of the album chart.

Not the band's fault of course but could the timing to take a year off of touring have been any worse?

Hey! The guy with the facts checks in.

David Ling is pretty much a 50ish old hippy. Actually, I don't think he's a big Journey fan. But what a gig he has!! Who needs facts?

I agree about touring this year, don't know who made the decision but I guess we'll just have to see what 2011 brings.

BTW You'll always be Gunbot to me.

Top Selling singles of all time.
Led Zeppelin didn't release singles for Top 40 radio, so we just have to assume that the 100 million albums they have sold in North America alone are a pretty good barometer of their success.


SINGLES
GLOBAL

37 Million Singles Sold

Candle In The Wind (Princess Diana Tribute) - Elton John

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30 Million Singles Sold

White Christmas - Bing Crosby [original]

*All versions of Bing's song has sold a staggering 70 million copies

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17 Million Singles Sold

Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley and His Comets

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12 Million Singles Sold

I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles

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10 Million Singles Sold

Hey Jude - The Beatles

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10 Million Singles Sold

It's Now Or Never - Elvis Presley

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10 Million Singles Sold

I Will Always Love You - Whitney Houston

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9 Million Singles Sold

Hound Dog - Elvis Presley

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9 Million Singles Sold

Diana - Paul Anka

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8 Million Singles Sold

(Every Thing I Do) I Do It For You - Bryan Adams




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1 Million Singles Sold

Don't Stop Believin' - Journey

We can cheat and add in three million digital sales for Don't Stop Believin' but even then, Hey Jude and I Want To Hold Your Hand still punches DSB'S clock.

Don't Stop Believin' is a phenomenally successful song, I just don't see the need to keep over exaggerating it's place in the annals of Rock and Roll.

So doesn't this go back to that whole issue about "catalogue" type sales? Not sure if this is the right term, but old music might fit just as well?

RocknRoll wrote:So doesn't this go back to that whole issue about "catalogue" type sales? Not sure if this is the right term, but old music might fit just as well? But you had Bing up there.

My list is for single sales (45s, CD singles). This whole digital downloads thing doesn't bring into light how many singles of a song were actually sold over all.

I would guess that 95 percent of White Christmas numbers are hard copy sales, not Digital. It still sold 30 million copies, either way you slice it.

I'm all for the guy giving props to Journey but you when you bring them up in the same light as the Beatles and Led Zeppelin, I'm going to have to give my opinion on the issue.

Don wrote:I'm all for the guy giving props to Journey but you when you bring them up in the same light as the Beatles and Led Zeppelin, I'm going to have to give my opinion on the issue.

Maybe, just give them a couple more years. Who knows?? I still love Bing though

One thing is. I'll bet you money if you started singing "just a small town girl" a whole group of folks would start singing along with you.

I don't think Beatles songs are downloadable, are they? If so, it has to be very recent.

RocknRoll wrote:

Don wrote:I'm all for the guy giving props to Journey but you when you bring them up in the same light as the Beatles and Led Zeppelin, I'm going to have to give my opinion on the issue.

Maybe, just give them a couple more years. Who knows?? I still love Bing though

One thing is. I'll bet you money if you started singing "just a small town girl" a whole group of folks would start singing along with you.

Only, if in the proper pitch. Who in the fuck is this Don guy, anyway?

RocknRoll wrote:

Don wrote:I'm all for the guy giving props to Journey but you when you bring them up in the same light as the Beatles and Led Zeppelin, I'm going to have to give my opinion on the issue.

Maybe, just give them a couple more years. Who knows?? I still love Bing though

One thing is. I'll bet you money if you started singing "just a small town girl" a whole group of folks would start singing along with you.

I'm not denying that. I wonder though, how many people would be singing with the Glee version in mind vs the original one.

Memorex wrote:I don't think Beatles songs are downloadable, are they? If so, it has to be very recent.

They're not.

Neal Schon wrote:“Bigger than [anything by] Led Zeppelin or The Beatles, that’s mind-boggling,”

Neal,
You do realize that the cash Paul McCartney made from the ten shows he did last year dwarfed the money you made doing 50 shows, right? Talk about mind -boggling.

For the record, I don't really like any music of the Beatles but I can't let my personal bias blind me to what are the facts. I don't own any of the Beatles records nor any of John's, Paul's or George's solo work. My Personal opinion, if it need be known is that Led Zeppelin is the greatest Rock and Roll band of all time.

RocknRoll wrote:

Chubby321 wrote:Neal Schon Exclusive: Journey Plot Their Return
gbarton / Features, News, Top Posts / 27/05/2010 16:39pm

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news ... ir-return/

Journey are currently in the studio with producer Kevin Shirley (Aerosmith/Led Zeppelin/Iron Maiden) in the early stages of creating a follow-up to Revelation, the band’s 2008 album which introduced their latest lead singer, Arnel Pineda.

Words: Dave Ling

The group face this task with the wind in their metaphorical sails after two rival versions of their power ballad Don’t Stop Believin’ – the original from 1981’s album Escape and a re-make that featured in the children’s TV show Glee – battled it out in the UK’s Top 10 singles chart earlier this year.

“[The song’s success is] brilliant for us and bands like us,” maintains Schon.

“If people think Don’t Stop Believin’ is a Glee song and not one of ours, I don’t mind. Those are brand new fans – I’m happy they like the song, period.

“We did really well the last time we toured in the UK [in June 2008], also playing at [last year’s] Download, so we’ve taken the rest of the year off to prepare this new CD. Things are on the up-and-up for us over there. It’s great to know that doors are finally opening.

“We’re going to be here [in the studio] for a little bit over a month,” he continues. “Overdubs and vocals are going really well. Kevin has to run off to another project, so we will come back and sing some more in November. The material is extremely strong.”

Expect the as-yet untitled record to be released next spring.

Given that Don’t Stop Believin’ has been officially recognised as the most downloaded song of all time (“Bigger than [anything by] Led Zeppelin or The Beatles, that’s mind-boggling,” marvels Schon), Journey are already planning to play in the UK in 2011.

“The promoters are keen to have us back as [bona fide] headliners, and we’re excited to be coming as part of our next world tour,” sums up Neal.

Hey Chubs!! I posted the same article but deleted it.

The UK fans pestered promoters continuously to get Journey to the UK in 2006 and now look where they're at? Great job by the UK fans.

DSB had been downloaded more than the Beatles? Who would have THUNK it a few years ago.

Did you do it first? I'm sorry.

UK fans rock!!!

I do remember an article claiming DSB as the most downloaded catalog single. It may have changed since, but at one point it was.

jrnyman28 wrote:I do remember an article claiming DSB as the most downloaded catalog single. It may have changed since, but at one point it was.

It is the most downloaded catalog track. It's just that when it is said to be the most downloaded song in history, that is not accurate unless you specify that you are only talking about catalog tracks. As we know there are plenty of other songs that have more downloads than DSB and as far as overall sales as a single in any format, dozens of songs that have more sales.

Stupid question alert:

What's a catalog track?

Duncan wrote:Stupid question alert:

What's a catalog track?

"keep in mind that a catalog track refers to a song released in the pre-digital era, but later re-released as a digital download"

http://www.edibleapple.com/whats-the-mo ... s-history/

jrnyman28 wrote:I do remember an article claiming DSB as the most downloaded catalog single. It may have changed since, but at one point it was.

That's what I was thinking too....and it was years ago, when Augeri was still in the band. It may have been specific to iTunes as well.

If Journey has time off until their producer is back in November, does that mean Neal will have time to record his solo album? (Please, please... )