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While I think the originals will always pwn the re-recordings, I do think the guys did make some of them sound refreshing and some they just upped the ante on.

Who's Crying Now - Being a song I really like to hear on dreary, rainy autumn days, this one is pretty powerful. The re-record takes its power up a few notches and that for me makes it all the more nicer to hear when I'm sad. I like Neal's extended solo, and Arnel conveyed the feeling of the song. It's a kickass remake of an already great song.

Separate Ways - I really believe that this is the song at its best. Much more like the live version which in my opinion is amazing. The guitar muting sounds really good, as well as some of the Floyd Rose acrobatics Neal does. The end "no" with Arnel letting the vocals soar was well done, even though he has ducked that note a few times live. The man sings like a banshee on this one.

Stone in Love - The guitar parts are an improvement, and Deen's drumming really brings out the joy this song implies. I'm lukewarm with Arnel on this one, and must say that Steve sang it better, but Arnel gives it all and that is to be appreciated, you can still believe him.

The rest aren't much of an improvement on the originals, but are still well done and I do believe that the guys had alot of fun doing it and it was well produced.
Any Way You Want It is my least favourite of the re-records. The original is just a mere masterpiece of Journey's and is purely untouchable.


Would love to hear some more opinions on this!

You're insane, young man ...

WCN is almost as good as the original, Open Arms is better (as it's not contrived), Stone In Love sucks, Faithfully is solid and Only The Young is better. The rest range from ok to ... ok. But they're not as good as the originals.

Saint John wrote:WCN is almost as good as the original, Open Arms is better (as it's not contrived), Stone In Love sucks, Faithfully is solid and Only The Young is better. The rest range from ok to ... ok. But they're not as good as the originals.

Well put and I agree.

If the re-records had been given the same Kevin Shirley treatment afforded to the new material, (and not hastily recorded in Cain's basement), I think it could almost sit alongside the originals. As it is, Arnel's accent pretty much kills it for me. I do agree with Saint John's assement of standout tracks.

CD is still in it's sleeve. No desire to listen.

Same goes for all re-records with replacement singers, including Foreigner, whom I have thoroughly enjoyed with Kelly Hansen.

hoagiepete wrote:CD is still in it's sleeve. No desire to listen.

Same goes for all re-records with replacement singers, including Foreigner, whom I have thoroughly enjoyed with Kelly Hansen.

Those weren't re-records with Kelly Hansen on Disc 2 of Can't Slow Down. They are updated/remixed versions of the originals with Lou Gramm's vocals. The exception is "Fool For You Anyway" on Disc 1.

Starrider wrote:

hoagiepete wrote:CD is still in it's sleeve. No desire to listen.

Same goes for all re-records with replacement singers, including Foreigner, whom I have thoroughly enjoyed with Kelly Hansen.

Those weren't re-records with Kelly Hansen on Disc 2 of Can't Slow Down. They are updated/remixed versions of the originals with Lou Gramm's vocals. The exception is "Fool For You Anyway" on Disc 1.

Guess I should pay more attention. Good news. New CD to listen to!

Saint John wrote:WCN is almost as good as the original, Open Arms is better (as it's not contrived), Stone In Love sucks, Faithfully is solid and Only The Young is better. The rest range from ok to ... ok. But they're not as good as the originals.

No way is the re- recorded version of Only The Young better than the original. Anyone who thinks any of them are better than the originals has major brain damage. I heard them and have no desire to hear them again.

Frontiers65 wrote:

Saint John wrote:WCN is almost as good as the original, Open Arms is better (as it's not contrived), Stone In Love sucks, Faithfully is solid and Only The Young is better. The rest range from ok to ... ok. But they're not as good as the originals.

No way is the re- recorded version of Only The Young better than the original. Anyone who thinks any of them are better than the originals has major brain damage. I heard them and have no desire to hear them again.

Good for you, pal.

Arnel did a great job on WCN. I like his Open Arms better. I really enjoy his Faithfully. Steve's is perfection, really untouchable, so world weary in delivery of the lyrics. But I still enjoy Arnel's for the sheer power of his vocals and crystal clear vocals. Love Arnel on Only the Young. And I think he does a really great job on Separate Ways, and live he kills on it, better than Perry, for me. The rest are fine. I enjoyed the rerecords all the way through, even if the rest aren't as good as Perry. Arnel has a really good voice and it's enjoyable. Although, I have no idea where they are anymore. I think I lost the CD. LOL

hoagiepete wrote:CD is still in it's sleeve. No desire to listen.

Ditto. Haven't played since I reviewed and won't even play again. Just no need. Much prefer to concentrate on original new material. Same goes for all bands also.

Andrew wrote:

hoagiepete wrote:CD is still in it's sleeve. No desire to listen.

Ditto. Haven't played since I reviewed and won't even play again. Just no need. Much prefer to concentrate on original new material. Same goes for all bands also.

Shows just how long the longevity of re-recordings are.
5 min max.

froy wrote:

Andrew wrote:

hoagiepete wrote:CD is still in it's sleeve. No desire to listen.

Ditto. Haven't played since I reviewed and won't even play again. Just no need. Much prefer to concentrate on original new material. Same goes for all bands also.

Shows just how long the longevity of re-recordings are.
5 min max.

Yeah it's because they are shit.

But the actual Revelations album is solid, some really good new material there, I don't listen to it much... but when I do, I can appreciate them.

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

lights1961 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

journeyrock wrote:

lights1961 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

It was Walmart that demanded the re-records to even get the deal. They wanted that and maybe 3 or 4 new songs. Journey decided to make the whole album of new songs, and appeased Walmarts demands for the re-records. They didn't spend much time at all on the re-records, so they could put their efforts into the album of new songs.

journeyrock wrote:

lights1961 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

I have no clue about the inner workings of the business/band ...those re's just made me feel
like the coffin was now sealed!!

Rick wrote:

journeyrock wrote:

lights1961 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

It was Walmart that demanded the re-records to even get the deal. They wanted that and maybe 3 or 4 new songs. Journey decided to make the whole album of new songs, and appeased Walmarts demands for the re-records. They didn't spend much time at all on the re-records, so they could put their efforts into the album of new songs.

It's what turned me off.......I don't care who wanted them...the idea sucked.

portland wrote:

Rick wrote:

journeyrock wrote:

lights1961 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

It was Walmart that demanded the re-records to even get the deal. They wanted that and maybe 3 or 4 new songs. Journey decided to make the whole album of new songs, and appeased Walmarts demands for the re-records. They didn't spend much time at all on the re-records, so they could put their efforts into the album of new songs.

It's what turned me off.......I don't care who wanted them...the idea sucked.

Portland, I love your siggy quote. So true!!!

What's left After You Fall?.....A Cover Band?

journeyrock wrote:

lights1961 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

I'm impressed with your knowledge of why this was done. Now, can you tell us if and when Perry will return?

I believe InfinityVocalist is sorry he ever brought this subject up!!
I also feel certain he's never coming back ...

steveo777 wrote:

journeyrock wrote:

lights1961 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

I'm impressed with your knowledge of why this was done. Now, can you tell us if and when Perry will return?

She has as much right to speculate about this as you do
about Perry's surgery ... hisssssssssss!!

Michigan Girl wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

journeyrock wrote:

lights1961 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

I'm impressed with your knowledge of why this was done. Now, can you tell us if and when Perry will return?

She has as much right to speculate about this as you do
about Perry's surgery ... hisssssssssss!!

Thank you MG And yes, he will return when he's damn good and ready to. May be tomorrow, may be never!

journeyrock wrote:

portland wrote:

Rick wrote:

journeyrock wrote:

lights1961 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:You're insane, young man ...

LOL, agree 10000%
those re records really do sound AWFUL... but then the original BAR was so high... it begs to reason why journey thought is was a good idea???

I can tell you why. Neal wanted every little shred possible of Perry out of the Journey equation. Hence, NAMOTA. By doing the re-records, Neal thought it would somehow make Revelation seem as though it is the original band.

Guess he was wrong, cuz it didn't happen.

It was Walmart that demanded the re-records to even get the deal. They wanted that and maybe 3 or 4 new songs. Journey decided to make the whole album of new songs, and appeased Walmarts demands for the re-records. They didn't spend much time at all on the re-records, so they could put their efforts into the album of new songs.

It's what turned me off.......I don't care who wanted them...the idea sucked.

Portland, I love your siggy quote. So true!!!

What's left After You Fall?.....A Cover Band?

I kind of like it myself.....

Michigan Girl, I am very much here and accounted for. And not sorry at all

Who wants to know about the Walmart rerecords? I'm just fucked up enough to answer any fucking question anyone has, and yes I DID know the inner workings of the deal, both before and after they fucked me up.

Jeremey, big fan! Sure, I'll listen to what you have to say.

LOL, thanks man!
Well, if anyone has any specific questions about it just let me know, haha.....

No problem. Hmm, I don't really want to ask about your whole experience with Journey, mostly for fear of the unknown, as I REALLY don't want to look at my heroes differently than I already do... (long story about my love for them, won't bore you with it). But I AM a little curious about the the backstory of the Wal-Mart re-records... I doubt that whatever you may say about them will change my liking of them, for me it's Arnel ONLY that keeps me listening to those.