Why no set release date for the new album?

[jrnyjetster]

You'd think the band would at least throw us a bone by now.....Is Arnel talking on his site? So much for Journey's shit website, sorry to say.

Will it be March, April, May or June? WTF?

[JRNYFan]

I'm sure they're still working details out with Wal-Mart or whoever the dealer is this time around. I seem to remember with Revelation that we didn't know the actual release date until about three months before.

[Red13JoePa]

Probly reworking some stuff since they had to can the caveman.

[Rockindeano]

Probly reworking some stuff since they had to can the caveman.

Is Neal paying you too? They "had to can" the Caveman? What makes you think they had to axe him? He might have just as well said, fuck these clowns, and left.

[steveo777]

Probly reworking some stuff since they had to can the caveman.

Is Neal paying you too? They "had to can" the Caveman? What makes you think they had to axe him? He might have just as well said, fuck these clowns, and left.

Maybe Friga got his panties in a wad one too many times.

[RedWingFan]

What makes you think they had to axe him? He might have just as well said, fuck these clowns, and left.

Uh...not to nitpick but he probably would have said, "Fuck these 3 has beens and 2 never was clowns" and then left.

[Monker]

Probly reworking some stuff since they had to can the caveman.

Wow, I didn't know that KS was no longer involved. If that's true, then this next album is probably not going to be out until late summer...they may need to finish recording, produce it, master it, and create a few thousand CD's for sale at shows and on the website. I'll bet they finish it off in Jonathan's studio....which means it will sound about as good as Generations (like crap).

Every time I hear something new about this album, it makes me believe even more that this is going to be an epic fail.

[steveo777]

Probly reworking some stuff since they had to can the caveman.

Wow, I didn't know that KS was no longer involved. If that's true, then this next album is probably not going to be out until late summer...they may need to finish recording, produce it, master it, and create a few thousand CD's for sale at shows and on the website. I'll bet they finish it off in Jonathan's studio....which means it will sound about as good as Generations (like crap).

Every time I hear something new about this album, it makes me believe even more that this is going to be an epic fail.

Relax, Beavis....it's done.

[portland]

Probly reworking some stuff since they had to can the caveman.

Wow, I didn't know that KS was no longer involved. If that's true, then this next album is probably not going to be out until late summer...they may need to finish recording, produce it, master it, and create a few thousand CD's for sale at shows and on the website. I'll bet they finish it off in Jonathan's studio....which means it will sound about as good as Generations (like crap).

Every time I hear something new about this album, it makes me believe even more that this is going to be an epic fail.

Relax, Beavis....it's done.

says Butthead.

[steveo777]

Probly reworking some stuff since they had to can the caveman.

Wow, I didn't know that KS was no longer involved. If that's true, then this next album is probably not going to be out until late summer...they may need to finish recording, produce it, master it, and create a few thousand CD's for sale at shows and on the website. I'll bet they finish it off in Jonathan's studio....which means it will sound about as good as Generations (like crap).

Every time I hear something new about this album, it makes me believe even more that this is going to be an epic fail.

Relax, Beavis....it's done.

says Butthead.

And the peanut - and lobster gallery has spoken.

[Saint John]

Probly reworking some stuff since they had to can the caveman.

Is Neal paying you too? They "had to can" the Caveman? What makes you think they had to axe him? He might have just as well said, fuck these clowns, and left.

This is all documented and Andrew and Shirley have confirmed. When Shirley put the Journey album on the back burner, they came in and told him to hand over what he had already done and took it elsewhere. But, since then, he has helped out a bit again and will remian the album's overall producer.

Here is an in-depth explanation from a guy claiming to be David Kalmusky himself. Perhaps Jeremey or one of our other resident experts can decode some of this information! The bolded parts are quotes from David's uncle that he is addressing/correcting, and there are also 2 bolded quotes from Kevin Shirley.


Hi Guys... my uncle (BobKat) Did a Fantastic job, considering I fed him a PILE of information in about 4 & 1/2 minutes, after leaving a family new years dinner without having talked about all of this stuff, to not be rude, dominate the conversation, and bore the family with Gear talk.

I'll make a few corrections here, (as there are a few inaccuracies) and if anyone has any other questions, I'll pop on from time to time, and see if there are any.

Originally Posted By: Bobkat
Originally he was asked to record the vocals only but things are going so well that they asked him to do the rest.He is currently mixing the tracks along with the band and the producer in his Nashville studio.


The Producer, Kevin (Caveman) Shirley, is also a famous Mixer (Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, Journey etc...)

The Deadline for the Journey record got pushed back, as Tour dates for the band started to surface for spring, and Kevin Shirley had already had Iron Maiden, John Hyatt, Joe Bonamassa, and several other sessions FILLING up his winter.

Jon Cain (Keyboard Player for journey) and I have become friends, from working on his Daughters demos for her record, and he got me the gig cutting the vocals on the Journey record... had become a Fan of my Mixing... asked me for a bunch of my mixes to play for Neal & Kevin, and through the process, I, in the end was asked to mix the record.

Originally Posted By: Bobkat

Some of the drums and guitar tracks were recorded in a huge studio in San Francisco and the rest has been recorded in Davids Nashville studio.


All of the Main Tracks, Beds and Overdubs were tracked, By Kevin Shirley, at Fantasy Studios in San Francisco, the Multitracks of the whole album were brought to me to Cut Vocals. Throughout the album, the guys wanted to replace, add a few Keyboard, BGV, Bass, and Guitar Overdubs... Some of which we recorded in My room, some were done at Cain's Studio in SF, and some, back at Fantasy.

Originally Posted By: Bobkat

The lead vocal signal chain for Arnel Pineda is ,Neuman U87 into Neve 1073 pre,into a custum built(De Mella) compressor into a Pro Tools Icon HD console.


Arnel Sang into a Telefunken USA U47 -> Neve 1073 -> ADL (Anthony Demaria Labs) CL-1500 -> BlackLion 96 i/o

Originally Posted By: Bobkat

He has been mixing for 3 months starting with about 105 tracks per song which have been bounced down to 32 tracks to make it more workable.He's using Dynaudio 6As and Genelic speakers for mixing.


Kevin Shirley Rough Mixed the whole record in, for a Gauge of Levels / Placement, he also mixed one "Good" - as a sonic Gauge of how he heard the record. I Took the multitracks into the Neve Room at Quad Studios Nashville, for about 12 days, and Cascade mixed the album, using Kevin's Roughs as references, to 32 Stems back into ProTools. Certainly not All songs were 100 + tracks, but some of them, after BGV stacks, multi mic'd guitar parts, String Sections etc... were pretty big sessions.

My Objective at Quad, was to mix the record to a 32 Track format, using the Neve Console EQ, Compression, and all of my Favorite outboard gear, to make the album sound as Big as Possible, but then be able to have Recall / Tweakabillity of an ITB Mix... So

Back in MY mix room... Jonathan, Neal & I Finished the album ITB, sending Ref's to Kevin over the internet. (Kevin also came to Nashville on a John Hyatt session and checked in on the Mixes) We closed the mixes 2 days before Christmas, but i got a "Final Tweak List" from a Neal text from Hawaii - So I'll make those changes tomorrow, and fingers crossed, we'll be set to Master.

Kevin Shirley has signed off on the Mixes, and published a mention of our mixes in THIS ARTICLE Here, which Quotes Kevin saying :
Quote from Kevin Shirley:
I also had the opportunity to work with a hero of mine in JOHN HIATT, and after a terrific session, we've slated more recordings for next year, which is so exciting for me. John also makes an appearance on Joe Bonamassa's new album, and loved Joe's version of 'I Know A Place' from Joe's Black Rock album. So a great month in November. David Kalmusky and Neal Schon did a terrific job of mixing the Journey record, and I did a few mixes for them as guidelines, and they took their time doing it and sent them to me, and it was a great collaborative effort. Look for that next summer...


Originally Posted By: Bobkat
David and Journey have become good friends and the leader of Journey has asked David to be part owner of his New huge Nashville Studio which will open this January 5th.This new studio has 2 large tracking and drum rooms,2 grand pianos etc and 7 isolation booths.I've seen some pictures and it will have a large Neve console and a 2" tape machine.I will report back as Jouneys project progresses. Happy New Year, Cheers.


Well there is no "Leader Of Journey", it's pretty much a democracy, with a bit of anarchy... Nevertheless, Jonathan Cain is Building a Studio, which I will have a Mix Room in, and am Helping design, with Jonathan & Chris Huston (Engineer on Led Zeppelin II, The Who "Who Sell Out", and about 100 other iconic rock albums) - a Trident TSM 52 Input Console in the main Control Room, and (No Neve Yet) in My Mix Room, but "On the watch" - 7 ISO spots INCLUDING the Drum, Piano, Keyboard Room, 2 Vocal Booths, Guitar ISO etc... Cain's got 2 Pianos... just don't know which ONE he'll bring into the Studio.

Anyways, Bob told me about this forum, so i thought I'd check it out, and I'm a stickler for details... so... I thought I'd pop on, and account for the details that occurred.

Wishing everyone a prosperous 2011


-David

[jrnyjetster]

Thanks for posting that SJ....puts all those rumors to bed..so to speak. I gather (from what I've just read) that the new CD won't be on shelves till probably June or July then, unfortunately.

[Saint John]

More from David Kalmusky:

On Arnel:

"Arnel is a Humble, Fantastic, Talented guy, and deserves the gig... We did most of these passes out of 2 or 3 really great takes, and just comped him, he didn't need pitch correction, he sings so good, if we found a spot that was a little flat or sharp (Which wasn't often once he warmed up) we could easily flip through the comp, and didn't have to dig too far, for a version of the line he sang perfectly, with emotion, Definitely "Engaged" the whole time he was in front of the microphone."

On Neal:

"Can't Really speak for past albums (But I can certainly Ask him, & Kevin Shirley) - On this record Neal recorded all Guitars on a Custom Bogner Amp that was built for him... Multi Mic'd with a 57, Heil PR40, 414, and a Royer 121 - we as well he recorded Stereo Effects from a Fractal Unit, for "Printed Stereo Effects" Per Guitar part / Idea"

[Ehwmatt]

More from David Kalmusky:

On Arnel:

"Arnel is a Humble, Fantastic, Talented guy, and deserves the gig... We did most of these passes out of 2 or 3 really great takes, and just comped him, he didn't need pitch correction, he sings so good, if we found a spot that was a little flat or sharp (Which wasn't often once he warmed up) we could easily flip through the comp, and didn't have to dig too far, for a version of the line he sang perfectly, with emotion, Definitely "Engaged" the whole time he was in front of the microphone."

On Neal:

"Can't Really speak for past albums (But I can certainly Ask him, & Kevin Shirley) - On this record Neal recorded all Guitars on a Custom Bogner Amp that was built for him... Multi Mic'd with a 57, Heil PR40, 414, and a Royer 121 - we as well he recorded Stereo Effects from a Fractal Unit, for "Printed Stereo Effects" Per Guitar part / Idea"

Fractal Unit... interesting... I wonder if he used the Fractal Axe FX that's taken the guitar world by storm in the last ~24 months?

[Ritchie]

If I`m not mistaken Neal is using an Axe FX on this YT clip?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0JOwNaDP2s
Maybe it`s not audible on this clip but those pre-amp multi FX units have a killer sound in both amp modeling and effect processing.

More from David Kalmusky:

On Arnel:

"Arnel is a Humble, Fantastic, Talented guy, and deserves the gig... We did most of these passes out of 2 or 3 really great takes, and just comped him, he didn't need pitch correction, he sings so good, if we found a spot that was a little flat or sharp (Which wasn't often once he warmed up) we could easily flip through the comp, and didn't have to dig too far, for a version of the line he sang perfectly, with emotion, Definitely "Engaged" the whole time he was in front of the microphone."

On Neal:

"Can't Really speak for past albums (But I can certainly Ask him, & Kevin Shirley) - On this record Neal recorded all Guitars on a Custom Bogner Amp that was built for him... Multi Mic'd with a 57, Heil PR40, 414, and a Royer 121 - we as well he recorded Stereo Effects from a Fractal Unit, for "Printed Stereo Effects" Per Guitar part / Idea"

Fractal Unit... interesting... I wonder if he used the Fractal Axe FX that's taken the guitar world by storm in the last ~24 months?

[lights1961]

when will Neal's CD's be out...thats the imortant question...

[Saint John]

This could be a prelude to this summer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1nN251Z ... re=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPNx164Q ... re=related

[fightingilliniJRNY]

This could be a prelude to this summer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1nN251Z ... re=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPNx164Q ... re=related

The Santana/Journey tour package rumors are starting up again? Wasn't this being talked about three or four years ago, too?

[RedWingFan]

This could be a prelude to this summer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1nN251Z ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPNx164Q ... re=related

I wonder how Arnel's Rob Thomas, Greg Rollie and Michelle Branch immitations are coming along? Neil could rent him to Carlos for every show and pocket some more coin.

[Saint John]

This could be a prelude to this summer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1nN251Z ... re=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPNx164Q ... re=related

The Santana/Journey tour package rumors are starting up again? Wasn't this being talked about three or four years ago, too?

I'll be the first to on record and say that *I* think the billing would be a terrible idea. But that doesn't mean it's not going to happen. I want the Scorpions on the bill. This is their swan song and Journey has a chance to play in front of a crowd that loves rock and appreciates good ballads, rather than their typical crowd that likes just the opposite.

If their new album is as "rocking" Neal says it is, the choice is easy, and you do whatever it takes to have the Scorpions on the bill. Playing in front of a bunch of acid soaked Santana freaks that, by and large, think the Vietnam war isn't over yet is not a step in the right direction.

[FamilyMan]

Probly reworking some stuff since they had to can the caveman.

Is Neal paying you too? They "had to can" the Caveman? What makes you think they had to axe him? He might have just as well said, fuck these clowns, and left.

This is all documented and Andrew and Shirley have confirmed. When Shirley put the Journey album on the back burner, they came in and told him to hand over what he had already done and took it elsewhere. But, since then, he has helped out a bit again and will remian the album's overall producer.

Here is an in-depth explanation from a guy claiming to be David Kalmusky himself. Perhaps Jeremey or one of our other resident experts can decode some of this information! The bolded parts are quotes from David's uncle that he is addressing/correcting, and there are also 2 bolded quotes from Kevin Shirley.


Hi Guys... my uncle (BobKat) Did a Fantastic job, considering I fed him a PILE of information in about 4 & 1/2 minutes, after leaving a family new years dinner without having talked about all of this stuff, to not be rude, dominate the conversation, and bore the family with Gear talk.

I'll make a few corrections here, (as there are a few inaccuracies) and if anyone has any other questions, I'll pop on from time to time, and see if there are any.

Originally Posted By: Bobkat
Originally he was asked to record the vocals only but things are going so well that they asked him to do the rest.He is currently mixing the tracks along with the band and the producer in his Nashville studio.


The Producer, Kevin (Caveman) Shirley, is also a famous Mixer (Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, Journey etc...)

The Deadline for the Journey record got pushed back, as Tour dates for the band started to surface for spring, and Kevin Shirley had already had Iron Maiden, John Hyatt, Joe Bonamassa, and several other sessions FILLING up his winter.

Jon Cain (Keyboard Player for journey) and I have become friends, from working on his Daughters demos for her record, and he got me the gig cutting the vocals on the Journey record... had become a Fan of my Mixing... asked me for a bunch of my mixes to play for Neal & Kevin, and through the process, I, in the end was asked to mix the record.

Originally Posted By: Bobkat

Some of the drums and guitar tracks were recorded in a huge studio in San Francisco and the rest has been recorded in Davids Nashville studio.


All of the Main Tracks, Beds and Overdubs were tracked, By Kevin Shirley, at Fantasy Studios in San Francisco, the Multitracks of the whole album were brought to me to Cut Vocals. Throughout the album, the guys wanted to replace, add a few Keyboard, BGV, Bass, and Guitar Overdubs... Some of which we recorded in My room, some were done at Cain's Studio in SF, and some, back at Fantasy.

Originally Posted By: Bobkat

The lead vocal signal chain for Arnel Pineda is ,Neuman U87 into Neve 1073 pre,into a custum built(De Mella) compressor into a Pro Tools Icon HD console.


Arnel Sang into a Telefunken USA U47 -> Neve 1073 -> ADL (Anthony Demaria Labs) CL-1500 -> BlackLion 96 i/o

Originally Posted By: Bobkat

He has been mixing for 3 months starting with about 105 tracks per song which have been bounced down to 32 tracks to make it more workable.He's using Dynaudio 6As and Genelic speakers for mixing.


Kevin Shirley Rough Mixed the whole record in, for a Gauge of Levels / Placement, he also mixed one "Good" - as a sonic Gauge of how he heard the record. I Took the multitracks into the Neve Room at Quad Studios Nashville, for about 12 days, and Cascade mixed the album, using Kevin's Roughs as references, to 32 Stems back into ProTools. Certainly not All songs were 100 + tracks, but some of them, after BGV stacks, multi mic'd guitar parts, String Sections etc... were pretty big sessions.

My Objective at Quad, was to mix the record to a 32 Track format, using the Neve Console EQ, Compression, and all of my Favorite outboard gear, to make the album sound as Big as Possible, but then be able to have Recall / Tweakabillity of an ITB Mix... So

Back in MY mix room... Jonathan, Neal & I Finished the album ITB, sending Ref's to Kevin over the internet. (Kevin also came to Nashville on a John Hyatt session and checked in on the Mixes) We closed the mixes 2 days before Christmas, but i got a "Final Tweak List" from a Neal text from Hawaii - So I'll make those changes tomorrow, and fingers crossed, we'll be set to Master.

Kevin Shirley has signed off on the Mixes, and published a mention of our mixes in THIS ARTICLE Here, which Quotes Kevin saying :
Quote from Kevin Shirley:
I also had the opportunity to work with a hero of mine in JOHN HIATT, and after a terrific session, we've slated more recordings for next year, which is so exciting for me. John also makes an appearance on Joe Bonamassa's new album, and loved Joe's version of 'I Know A Place' from Joe's Black Rock album. So a great month in November. David Kalmusky and Neal Schon did a terrific job of mixing the Journey record, and I did a few mixes for them as guidelines, and they took their time doing it and sent them to me, and it was a great collaborative effort. Look for that next summer...


Originally Posted By: Bobkat
David and Journey have become good friends and the leader of Journey has asked David to be part owner of his New huge Nashville Studio which will open this January 5th.This new studio has 2 large tracking and drum rooms,2 grand pianos etc and 7 isolation booths.I've seen some pictures and it will have a large Neve console and a 2" tape machine.I will report back as Jouneys project progresses. Happy New Year, Cheers.


Well there is no "Leader Of Journey", it's pretty much a democracy, with a bit of anarchy... Nevertheless, Jonathan Cain is Building a Studio, which I will have a Mix Room in, and am Helping design, with Jonathan & Chris Huston (Engineer on Led Zeppelin II, The Who "Who Sell Out", and about 100 other iconic rock albums) - a Trident TSM 52 Input Console in the main Control Room, and (No Neve Yet) in My Mix Room, but "On the watch" - 7 ISO spots INCLUDING the Drum, Piano, Keyboard Room, 2 Vocal Booths, Guitar ISO etc... Cain's got 2 Pianos... just don't know which ONE he'll bring into the Studio.

Anyways, Bob told me about this forum, so i thought I'd check it out, and I'm a stickler for details... so... I thought I'd pop on, and account for the details that occurred.

Wishing everyone a prosperous 2011


-David

After reading all this, I'm baffled why recent Journey recording efforts don't sound better. Perhaps I just have different tastes (sonically) than those in the band. But everything from Arrival - present has never knocked me out. Not talking about the songs here -- just the mix.

[Don]

This could be a prelude to this summer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1nN251Z ... re=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPNx164Q ... re=related

The Santana/Journey tour package rumors are starting up again? Wasn't this being talked about three or four years ago, too?

From what I understand, Journey will be touring with two openers, hence the talk of Scorpions and Europe/Cinderella. ). Wouldn't it have to be a co-headlining tour if Carlos was involved? Santana is currently touring Asia right now (Thailand, New Zealand, Korea, etc.) and he's got a residency gig in Vegas after that. With all that going on, I just can't imagine him being an opening act for Journey.

[Saint John]

This could be a prelude to this summer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1nN251Z ... re=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPNx164Q ... re=related

The Santana/Journey tour package rumors are starting up again? Wasn't this being talked about three or four years ago, too?

From what I understand, Journey will be touring with two openers, hence the talk of Scorpions and Europe/Cinderella. ). Wouldn't it have to be a co-headlining tour if Carlos was involved? Santana is currently touring Asia right now (Thailand, New Zealand, Korea, etc.) and he's got a residency gig in Vegas after that. With all that going on, I just can't imagine him being an opening act for Journey.

That's great news, WikiDon! Fuck Santana!

[Eric]

After reading all this, I'm baffled why recent Journey recording efforts don't sound better.

Why..because Higher Place is an amazing song but sounds like it was recorded in a bathtub?

[Don]

After reading all this, I'm baffled why recent Journey recording efforts don't sound better.

Why..because Higher Place is an amazing song but sounds like it was recorded in a bathtub?

Well, I think many of us are still wondering how the Manila DVD recorded was mixed so poorly. In all fairness, Revelation Dsic 1 sounds good sonically except for NWA. I have no idea how the lead track can be so inferior sounding to the rest of the first disc.

[Saint John]

After reading all this, I'm baffled why recent Journey recording efforts don't sound better.

Why..because Higher Place is an amazing song but sounds like it was recorded in a bathtub?

Well, I think many of us are still wondering how the Manila DVD recorded was mixed so poorly. In all fairness, Revelation Dsic 1 sounds good sonically except for NWA. I have no idea how the lead track can be so inferior sounding to the rest of the first disc.

I played the Revelation DVD and Live In Manila back to back, and Revelation is far better sounding. Live In Manila is nothing more than a glorified bootleg. It was very poorly done. I enjoy it, but it's not on par with a DVD release that you pay for.

[slucero]

Originally Posted By: Bobkat

The lead vocal signal chain for Arnel Pineda is ,Neuman U87 into Neve 1073 pre,into a custum built(De Mella) compressor into a Pro Tools Icon HD console.


Arnel Sang into a Telefunken USA U47 -> Neve 1073 -> ADL (Anthony Demaria Labs) CL-1500 -> BlackLion 96 i/o

NICE.. His vox will be amazing through this chain... and the BLA96 is friggin' amazing...

the new Maroon 5 album is done through BLA 96 i/o's... and Adam Levine vox are stellar on that.. courtesy of Mutt Lange and Mike Shipey of course..

Originally Posted By: Bobkat

He has been mixing for 3 months starting with about 105 tracks per song which have been bounced down to 32 tracks to make it more workable.He's using Dynaudio 6As and Genelic speakers for mixing.


[i]Kevin Shirley Rough Mixed the whole record in, for a Gauge of Levels / Placement, he also mixed one "Good" - as a sonic Gauge of how he heard the record. I Took the multitracks into the Neve Room at Quad Studios Nashville, for about 12 days, and Cascade mixed the album, using Kevin's Roughs as references, to 32 Stems back into ProTools. Certainly not All songs were 100 + tracks, but some of them, after BGV stacks, multi mic'd guitar parts, String Sections etc... were pretty big sessions.

My Objective at Quad, was to mix the record to a 32 Track format, using the Neve Console EQ, Compression, and all of my Favorite outboard gear, to make the album sound as Big as Possible, but then be able to have Recall / Tweakabillity of an ITB Mix... So

So the original tracks (100 plus) were bounced down to 32 "stems"... and were then mixed through a Neve Console... which will give them a great analog sound... the Neve EQ is digital, so all the settings are re-callable..

"ITB" means "In The Box"... meaning the whole session is in the computer... as a huge file... and can be reopened, edited etc... just like any other computer file...

Originally Posted By: Bobkat
David and Journey have become good friends and the leader of Journey has asked David to be part owner of his New huge Nashville Studio which will open this January 5th.This new studio has 2 large tracking and drum rooms,2 grand pianos etc and 7 isolation booths.I've seen some pictures and it will have a large Neve console and a 2" tape machine.I will report back as Jouneys project progresses. Happy New Year, Cheers.


[i]Well there is no "Leader Of Journey", it's pretty much a democracy, with a bit of anarchy... Nevertheless, Jonathan Cain is Building a Studio, which I will have a Mix Room in, and am Helping design, with Jonathan & Chris Huston (Engineer on Led Zeppelin II, The Who "Who Sell Out", and about 100 other iconic rock albums) - a Trident TSM 52 Input Console in the main Control Room, and (No Neve Yet) in My Mix Room, but "On the watch" - 7 ISO spots INCLUDING the Drum, Piano, Keyboard Room, 2 Vocal Booths, Guitar ISO etc... Cain's got 2 Pianos... just don't know which ONE he'll bring into the Studio.

Anyways, Bob told me about this forum, so i thought I'd check it out, and I'm a stickler for details... so... I thought I'd pop on, and account for the details that occurred.

Looks like JC is building a killer studio for Madison... nice!

[SF-Dano]

I think a pairing with Santana for a Europe/South American tour is a smart idea from a financial standpoint. Santana is a big draw in Europe still and I don't even have to mention the draw they pull in Latin America. That said, a pairing with the Scorps for the US is what I wish for.

[Don]

I think a pairing with Santana for a Europe/South American tour is a smart idea from a financial standpoint. Santana is a big draw in Europe still and I don't even have to mention the draw they pull in Latin America. That said, a pairing with the Scorps for the US is what I wish for.

Neal has no plans of being a co-headliner again (unless it's a festival where Journey just gets plugged in wherever). Santana isn't going open for them. Carlos is actually bigger than Journey in Australia/Asia right now. He is playing Thailand, a couple shows in Indonesia, a bunch of shows in Australia and New Zealand and even one in Korea. No way that band plays second fiddle to Journey in South America, Asia, Europe or where ever else. I don't see Neal budging for a second concerning who is headlining. He believes his guy is the second coming, he isn't going to open for any act, no matter who they are.

[SF-Dano]

I think a pairing with Santana for a Europe/South American tour is a smart idea from a financial standpoint. Santana is a big draw in Europe still and I don't even have to mention the draw they pull in Latin America. That said, a pairing with the Scorps for the US is what I wish for.

Neal has no plans of being a co-headliner again (unless it's a festival where Journey just gets plugged in wherever). Santana isn't going open for them. Carlos is actually bigger than Journey in Australia/Asia right now. He is playing Thailand, a couple shows in Indonesia, a bunch of shows in Australia and New Zealand and even one in Korea. No way that band plays second fiddle to Journey in South America, Asia, Europe or where ever else. I don't see Neal budging for a second concerning who is headlining. He believes his guy is the second coming, he isn't going to open for any act, no matter who they are.

Well, if you are correct on this, I guess I can forget holding out hope for a co-healining US tour with the Scorpions. I thought I read somewhere recently where Neal stated he almost prefers going on earlier or something like that. But then again I don't put much weight on what any of these guys tell the "press".