Hmmmm...I wonder if this is true about the new alburm!

by **SultanOfSwing** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:53 am

http://musicouch.com/musicouching/disag ... z1EAV7cZYw

Journey’s new album for 2011 was highly-anticipated by their millions of fans around the world which band leader Neal Schon promised they will launch early this year. Schon said it will be a new concept and more of a rock album. But latest reports hinted that divisiveness among band members engulfs the final production stage of the new album. Hints that lead guitarist Neal Schon and keyboardist Jonathan Cain at odds on how to go about it.

In an interview by Musicradar to Journey producer Kevin Shirley, he reported that the recording sessions were “divisive.” He also said that it is a “good record” but was “difficult to make.” “There’s people who want to be in a heavy rock band, and there’s people who want to have hit ballads. It’s just a matter of who stamps their feet the loudest,” he continued.

We can assume that it is Neal Schon who is for the rock thing for he’s been telling everyone in one interview last year that the new album will rock and there will be no more of those radio-friendly ballads.

Jonathan Cain who wrote the band’s big hit ballads “Faithfully” and “Open Arms” in collaboration with former singer Steve Perry, is the one more fond of these emotional mellow tunes. Their latest album, “Revelation”, featured their new hit ballad “After All These Years” which was sung by their new lead singer Arnel Pineda. It was the most requested song on the radio from that album.

Conflict like this is not new to the group. It has been told that Schon had initially rejected Cain’s ballad “Open Arms”. When Steve Perry heard it, he loved it and worked with Cain for its improvement but Schon is strongly against recording it. But Perry insisted, and the rest is history.

We can assume that Cain’s insistence of including ballad songs in their new album is to ensure its success and to cater with and satisfy their many sentimentalist fans while Schon wants an artistic new and pure rock album.

Kevin Shirley is a veteran rock producer and a master sound mixer who collaborated and worked with top rock bands like Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin, Journey and many others. Shirley did the mixing in the Revelation album but now he reported that he had discontinued mixing the new album and had assigned another engineer to finish it.

Shirley said late last year in his diary that “the new Journey album is almost finished – we have a few lead vocals to do. Neal wants to do a few segues and we’ll get to those and the mix in November, and I think that should wrap up for an early 2011 release. Recording of the new album is going along very well – 11 tracks recorded – 4 are complete minus backing vocals, and there are lead vocals and a guitar solo to go on the rest – a little percussion here and there, a bass fix, etc.”

It is February of 2011 now and their tour this year starts February 23 in Las Vegas, Nevada and there’s no news yet of the album. Is it a result of these internal conflicts?

Shirley described the album as “the same deal, recording-wise, the difference is in the details. The new songs are very, very creative and rocking.” He also said that he like the band’s creativity but also hinted on the presence of “internal rubs.” Shirley said the theme of the entire album is “very sexy” and “very rocking.”

We can only say that when geniuses work on a project, expect frictions and conflicts along the way. But one thing is sure – when the project is finally finished, it is going to be a masterpiece and one for the ages. Journey fans around the world eagerly await the fruit of labor of their favorite band – the legendary Journey.

by **Don** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:57 am

Most of this is regurgitated crap that we have talked about here already. This guy has a bunch of these blogs where he has jacked stuff from other people's interviews and interjected his own opinions into them, trying to pawn them off as facts. Check the Arnel and Journey sites and you'll find his sorry ass attempts at journalism littered all over them.

by **Saint John** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:06 am

It's a "masterpiece." I bet he got that part right. I have a feeling this will be the album that should have followed up Frontiers. Instead we got 2 atrocious snooze fests, 10 years of mediocre albums with Augeri, and one above average (original) album with Arnel. This will be one of their 3 best albums ever. Fuckin' book it.

by **Don** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:13 am

Saint John wrote:It's a "masterpiece." I bet he got that part right. I have a feeling this will be the album that should have followed up Frontiers. Instead we got 2 atrocious snooze fests, 10 years of mediocre albums with Augeri, and one above average (original) album with Arnel. This will be one of their 3 best albums ever. Fuckin' book it.

What, are they fuckin' Atlantic Starr Now?

by **Andrew** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:13 am

Facts - there was conflict. But all is well. The album is done and has already been slated for June 1 release. I'm told the album does indeed rock and doesn't contain any overly commercial ballads, but rather a couple of more intense ones.

Kevin Shirley didn't mix, but he was busy at the time the band needed him so they got someone else in to complete that. I think it is safe to say that Neal got his way and I like the sound of that!

by **Jubilee** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:14 am

..."In an interview by Musicradar to Journey producer Kevin Shirley, he reported that the recording sessions were “divisive.” He also said that it is a “good record” but was “difficult to make.” “There’s people who want to be in a heavy rock band, and there’s people who want to have hit ballads. It’s just a matter of who stamps their feet the loudest,” he continued."

:shock:

...so, Journey can do one, or the other...but definitely NOT both...Well, the man's an expert. He outta know. Bring on the faded photographs... :lol:

by **RedWingFan** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:44 am

Saint John wrote:This will be one of their 3 best albums ever. Fuckin' book it.

OMFG!!! You are to Arnel and Shawn as 7 Wishes is to Obama!

I'm assuming you guarantee this is going to be 3rd best behind Escape and Frontiers?

Better than Infinity, Evolution and Departure? :roll:

by **Saint John** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:51 am

RedWingFan wrote:I'm assuming you guarantee this is going to be 3rd best behind Escape and Frontiers?

Better than Infinity, Evolution and Departure?

Correct. Infinity, Evolution and Departure ain't shit anyway. Nobody cares about those fucking albums. Between the 3 of them, maybe 3-5 good songs off them. They're only slightly better than the very mediocre ROR and TBF.

by **portland** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:06 am

Saint John wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:I'm assuming you guarantee this is going to be 3rd best behind Escape and Frontiers?

Better than Infinity, Evolution and Departure?

Correct. Infinity, Evolution and Departure ain't shit anyway. Nobody cares about those fucking albums. Between the 3 of them, maybe 3-5 good songs off them. They're only slightly better than the very mediocre ROR and TBF.

yeah ok.... :roll:

by **ebake02** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:11 am

Andrew wrote: I think it is safe to say that Neal got his way and I like the sound of that!

Finally!!!!!!!! I hope he brought in some of his sound from Hardline. Love that stuff!!!!

Website · by **steveo777** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:14 am

If it doesn't sound like Journey they are fucked. It had damn well better!

by **RedWingFan** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:18 am

Saint John wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:I'm assuming you guarantee this is going to be 3rd best behind Escape and Frontiers?

Better than Infinity, Evolution and Departure?

Correct. Infinity, Evolution and Departure ain't shit anyway. Nobody cares about those fucking albums. Between the 3 of them, maybe 3-5 good songs off them. They're only slightly better than the very mediocre ROR and TBF.

Okay, so we've established that you have shitty taste in music and wouldn't recognize a good album to save your life.

Enjoy your Hindu themed piece of shit!

:lol:

by **RedWingFan** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:26 am

Saint John wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:I'm assuming you guarantee this is going to be 3rd best behind Escape and Frontiers?

Better than Infinity, Evolution and Departure?

Correct. Infinity, Evolution and Departure ain't shit anyway. Nobody cares about those fucking albums. Between the 3 of them, maybe 3-5 good songs off them. They're only slightly better than the very mediocre ROR and TBF.

Okay so I'm curious what the 3-5 good songs are off the 3 albums. Feel free to highlight them.

Lights, Feeling That Way, Anytime, La Do Da, Patiently, Wheel in the Sky, Somethin' to Hide, Winds of March, Can Do, Opened the Door, Majestic, Too Late, Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin', City of the Angels, When You're Alone it Ain't Easy, Sweet and Simple, Lovin you is Easy, Just the Same Way, Do you Recall, Daydream, Lady Luck, Any Way You Want It, Walks Like a Lady, Someday Soon, People and Places, Precious Time, Where Were You, I'm Cryin', Line of Fire, Departure, Good Morning Girl, Stay Awhile, Homemade Love.

by **Saint John** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:30 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:I'm assuming you guarantee this is going to be 3rd best behind Escape and Frontiers?

Better than Infinity, Evolution and Departure?

Correct. Infinity, Evolution and Departure ain't shit anyway. Nobody cares about those fucking albums. Between the 3 of them, maybe 3-5 good songs off them. They're only slightly better than the very mediocre ROR and TBF.

Okay, so we've established that you have shitty taste in music and wouldn't recognize a good album to save your life.

Enjoy your Hindu themed piece of shit!

Yeah, and you enjoy this:

Homemade Love Lyrics
Oh, oo.
Oo, baby.
I love cookin' with honey.
I love to make you feel funny.
I love the way you do.
I want, I want it with you, yeah.
Homemade love, jelly roll love.
Homemade love.

I need a jelly roll sweetie.
Now, spread it oh spread it on me, babe.
Feels so good, on the top.
Spread it around, baby, till I drop ya'.
Homemade love, hot jelly roll love.
Homemade love.

Oh, baby, oh baby,
I know you love it.
Homemade love, oh, baby.
I know you love it.
So love it.

Oh, homemade love, hot jelly roll love.
Homemade love.
Homemade love, hot jelly roll love.
Homemade love.
Oh, baby, baby, baby
Homemade love, hot jelly roll love.
Homemade love.

Oo, smokin',
Oo, baby, you're burnin'
Oo, baby, it's boilin', ah.

by **ebake02** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:51 am

steveo777 wrote:If it doesn't sound like Journey they are fucked. It had damn well better!

So your one of those dick sucking fair weather fans who changes musical tastes as often as Charlie Sheen changes porn stars. :lol:

by **Peartree12249** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:04 pm

Andrew wrote:Facts - there was conflict. But all is well. The album is done and has already been slated for June 1 release. I'm told the album does indeed rock and doesn't contain any overly commercial ballads, but rather a couple of more intense ones.

Kevin Shirley didn't mix, but he was busy at the time the band needed him so they got someone else in to complete that. I think it is safe to say that Neal got his way and I like the sound of that!

True, if you follow Caveman on Facebook, he has been working on new projects nonstop.

Website · by **steveo777** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:07 pm

ebake02 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:If it doesn't sound like Journey they are fucked. It had damn well better!

So your one of those dick sucking fair weather fans who changes musical tastes as often as Charlie Sheen changes porn stars.

Not exactly, but I've come to expect a signature sound and so far they've delivered it, mostly.

by **Andrew** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:17 pm

steveo777 wrote:
ebake02 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:If it doesn't sound like Journey they are fucked. It had damn well better!

So your one of those dick sucking fair weather fans who changes musical tastes as often as Charlie Sheen changes porn stars.

Not exactly, but I've come to expect a signature sound and so far they've delivered it, mostly.

It will sound like Journey.

by **RedWingFan** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:19 pm

Saint John wrote:
Yeah, and you enjoy this:

Homemade Love Lyrics

Yeah, granted the closing tune from Departure sucks. Although it is somewhat listenable and doesn't suck as bad as the closing irrelevant tune on Revelations. What's your point?

by **ebake02** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:42 pm

I wish they would at least give us a 30 second clip or something to give everybody an idea of what it sounds like.

by **Saint John** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:42 pm

Lady Luck and Daydream suck, too. Just luck most songs on those 3 albums. :lol:

by **Andrew** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:47 pm

ebake02 wrote:I wish they would at least give us a 30 second clip or something to give everybody an idea of what it sounds like.

The time will come.

by **RedWingFan** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:48 pm

Saint John wrote:Lady Luck and Daydream suck, too. Just luck most songs on those 3 albums.

Lady Luck isn't a bad tune. I guess you could call it filler, not one of their best. Better than most everything off of Revelations. Daydream seems like it was written to showcase Perry's great vocals. Doesn't disappoint either. I'd also take that over 90% of the crap on Revelations.

BTW, how many songs off those sucky albums did Neil and Cain re-record to prop up that masterpiece Revelations?

by **Don** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:11 pm

Father Time sure hasn't been kind. Under the right lighting, all the botox and hair restoration in the world can't hide the truth.

Website · by **steveo777** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:14 pm

Don wrote:Father Time sure hasn't been kind. Under the right lighting, all the botox and hair restoration in the world can't hide the truth.

Looks like a guy in his mid 50's to me. Was there something else? Lukather doesn't look much different, age wise. :wink:

by **DrFU** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:19 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:Father Time sure hasn't been kind. Under the right lighting, all the botox and hair restoration in the world can't hide the truth.

Looks like a guy in his mid 50's to me. Was there something else? Lukather doesn't look much different, age wise.

Yup, gravity happens ... no big deal

by **S2M** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:38 pm

ebake02 wrote:I wish they would at least give us a 30 second clip or something to give everybody an idea of what it sounds like.

Yes, please give me the least amount of pain in deciding that it is, indeed, crap....and let me be on my way....thx. :lol:

Website · by **steveo777** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:41 pm

The negative wizardry in this thread is strong. :roll:

by **S2M** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:05 pm

steveo777 wrote:The negative wizardry in this thread is strong.

Gotta keep it balanced....life is all about balance. :lol:

by **Don** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:06 pm

This is going to be a fun year!

MR

Hmmmm...I wonder if this is true about the new alburm!

Hmmmm...I wonder if this is true about the new alburm!

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