Official Date for New Album???

[RocknRoll]

...according to this interview the release date of the new album is 5/24!!

http://wncx.radio.com/2011/02/17/neal-s ... ney-album/

Neal Schon Talks About New Journey Album
cherise
Music News
2/17/2011
9:49 am

Journey In Concert At Planet Hollywood (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
It’s been almost three years since Journey released Revelation, their first record with Filipino lead singer Arnel Pineda, but the guys have a new album coming out. Guitarist Neal Schon talked about the effort.


“The record, it’s been done for a while. It sounds amazing. I’m in love with the record, which I haven’t said for a long time. I was very involved with this record. Jon Cain and I wrote the whole thing with a little help from Arnel. You know, I really fought for this record to be the way it is. It’s a rock record.”

Neal explained a little more about how the new album will rock.

“It’s built for the places we’re about to play. We’re playing a lot of big shows – South America and Europe – and we’re going to be touring the whole world on and off for two years. So with the addition of Arnel, we’ve become more of an international band which has been really great. We busted all kinds of markets wide open. So I wrote for what I felt we were missing in our show. We’ve got a lot of hits to play and we have to play those but there’s plenty of time to do some new stuff too so we’re gonna mix it up.”

Schon revealed that the album will come out on May 24th. To get all the band’s tour dates, head to JourneyMusic.com.

Source: VH1
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[portland]

...according to this interview the release date of the new album is 5/24!!

http://wncx.radio.com/2011/02/17/neal-s ... ney-album/

Neal Schon Talks About New Journey Album
cherise
Music News
2/17/2011
9:49 am

Journey In Concert At Planet Hollywood (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
It’s been almost three years since Journey released Revelation, their first record with Filipino lead singer Arnel Pineda, but the guys have a new album coming out. Guitarist Neal Schon talked about the effort.


“The record, it’s been done for a while. It sounds amazing. I’m in love with the record, which I haven’t said for a long time. I was very involved with this record. Jon Cain and I wrote the whole thing with a little help from Arnel. You know, I really fought for this record to be the way it is. It’s a rock record.”

Neal explained a little more about how the new album will rock.

“It’s built for the places we’re about to play. We’re playing a lot of big shows – South America and Europe – and we’re going to be touring the whole world on and off for two years. So with the addition of Arnel, we’ve become more of an international band which has been really great. We busted all kinds of markets wide open. So I wrote for what I felt we were missing in our show. We’ve got a lot of hits to play and we have to play those but there’s plenty of time to do some new stuff too so we’re gonna mix it up.”

Schon revealed that the album will come out on May 24th. To get all the band’s tour dates, head to JourneyMusic.com.

Source: VH1
Read more: Neal Schon Talks About New Journey Album http://wncx.radio.com/2011/02/17/neal-s ... z1EHNVFLSL

So I guess it's a Cain/Schon project.

[ebake02]

I want some samples damn it!!

[Saint John]

So I guess it's a Cain/Schon project.

No, fat ass, it's a Journey project.

[portland]

So I guess it's a Cain/Schon project.

No, fat ass, it's a Journey project.

Ahh I was wondering how long it would take for another one of your asshole comments....you never disappoint.

Neal pretty much says that HE and Jon did the writing.

[Saint John]

Neal pretty much says that HE and Jon did the writing.

And they're both in Journey, lard ass. And this is nothing new, past or present. Jon Cain has always been the chief songwriter.

[portland]

Neal pretty much says that HE and Jon did the writing.

And they're both in Journey, lard ass. And this is nothing new, past or present. Jon Cain has always been the chief songwriter.

Well fuckhead..there was plenty of talk and expectations that Arnel would be making a large contribution to the songwriting of this project....all I was saying is that apparently that was not the case.

[The_Noble_Cause]

"It sounds amazing. I’m in love with the record, which I haven’t said for a long time. I was very involved with this record."

This is how it should've been every time. I thought that was the whole point of "taking the reigns back". I can't believe Neal even let a substandard product like Generations hit the shelves. Luckily it sounds like this new one is a bonafide classic.

[Saint John]

Neal pretty much says that HE and Jon did the writing.

And they're both in Journey, lard ass. And this is nothing new, past or present. Jon Cain has always been the chief songwriter.

Well fuckhead..there was plenty of talk and expectations that Arnel would be making a large contribution to the songwriting of this project....all I was saying is that apparently that was not the case.

There was never any such expectation. Coming from a different country on a different continent and speaking a differnet language pretty much ensured that his writing contributions would be minimal. Aside from the cuntfaces and malcontents, no one cares who contributes what or how much. It's a collective effort from the band and should be judged as such. Do you like Faithfully any less because Perry doesn't have a writing credit on it? Or are you like every other sane person and really don't give a fuck?

[Don]

"It sounds amazing. I’m in love with the record, which I haven’t said for a long time. I was very involved with this record."

This is how it should've been every time. I thought that was the whole point of "taking the reigns back". I can't believe Neal even let a substandard product like Generations hit the shelves. Luckily it sounds like this new one is a bonafide classic.

So, could we say that in addition to Perry stealing ten years from the band, that Neal himself may have partially hindered the group's rebirth for another decade or so by not being more assertive AFTER he "got his band back"?

[portland]

Neal pretty much says that HE and Jon did the writing.

And they're both in Journey, lard ass. And this is nothing new, past or present. Jon Cain has always been the chief songwriter.

Well fuckhead..there was plenty of talk and expectations that Arnel would be making a large contribution to the songwriting of this project....all I was saying is that apparently that was not the case.

There was never any such expectation. Coming from a different country on a different continent and speaking a differnet language pretty much ensured that his writing contributions would be minimal. Aside from the cuntfaces and malcontents, no one cares who contributes what or how much. It's a collective effort from the band and should be judged as such. Do you like Faithfully any less because Perry doesn't have a writing credit on it? Or are you like every other sane person and really don't give a fuck?

first off...


"I" don't give a flying fuck who does what in the current line up of Journey. I just remember there were many discussions around the new album and Arnel having more input as he was around for the writing and production.To say that was not discussed makes me think that you are a little off center.

The above comments from Neal just makes it clear that HE and JON are the ones who hashed out what
this new venture is going to be.


BTW I love Faithfully, thanks for asking!

So I guess the answer is YES I am fucking sane as you so nicely put it.

[The_Noble_Cause]

"It sounds amazing. I’m in love with the record, which I haven’t said for a long time. I was very involved with this record."

This is how it should've been every time. I thought that was the whole point of "taking the reigns back". I can't believe Neal even let a substandard product like Generations hit the shelves. Luckily it sounds like this new one is a bonafide classic.

So, could we say that in addition to Perry stealing ten years from the band, that Neal himself may have partially hindered the group's rebirth for another decade or so by not being more assertive AFTER he "got his band back"?

Nah, when it came to "Arrival", his hands were tied. They had to prove themselves out on the road with Augeri before Sony would even re-sign them. Then Kalodner picked the tracks. But there was no excuse for "Generations" to be so shitty.

[RocknRoll]

"It sounds amazing. I’m in love with the record, which I haven’t said for a long time. I was very involved with this record."

This is how it should've been every time. I thought that was the whole point of "taking the reigns back". I can't believe Neal even let a substandard product like Generations hit the shelves. Luckily it sounds like this new one is a bonafide classic.

So, could we say that in addition to Perry stealing ten years from the band, that Neal himself may have partially hindered the group's rebirth for another decade or so by not being more assertive AFTER he "got his band back"?

GEEEZZZ GB! You really had to work to turn that one into a negative.

[portland]

"It sounds amazing. I’m in love with the record, which I haven’t said for a long time. I was very involved with this record."

This is how it should've been every time. I thought that was the whole point of "taking the reigns back". I can't believe Neal even let a substandard product like Generations hit the shelves. Luckily it sounds like this new one is a bonafide classic.

So, could we say that in addition to Perry stealing ten years from the band, that Neal himself may have partially hindered the group's rebirth for another decade or so by not being more assertive AFTER he "got his band back"?

GEEEZZZ GB! You really had to work to turn that one into a negative.

[Don]

To be honest, even though we take the piss concerning writing credits, the days of retiring off of royalties for penning a hit tune are long past for most of these AOR groups. Lack of sales AND radio play for new music makes 'who writes what' pretty much irrelevant in this genre.

[Don]

"It sounds amazing. I’m in love with the record, which I haven’t said for a long time. I was very involved with this record."

This is how it should've been every time. I thought that was the whole point of "taking the reigns back". I can't believe Neal even let a substandard product like Generations hit the shelves. Luckily it sounds like this new one is a bonafide classic.

So, could we say that in addition to Perry stealing ten years from the band, that Neal himself may have partially hindered the group's rebirth for another decade or so by not being more assertive AFTER he "got his band back"?

GEEEZZZ GB! You really had to work to turn that one into a negative.

I do try.

[Saint John]

So, could we say that in addition to Perry stealing ten years from the band, that Neal himself may have partially hindered the group's rebirth for another decade or so by not being more assertive AFTER he "got his band back"?

Absolutely. He should have recognized that Augeri was taking them nowhere after about 2002 and replaced him. I'll also put Neal on the hook for 5 years there and for 1994-1998. Perry should have been fired immediately after announcing the FTLOSM tour. They held on to that bum for far too long. ROR and TBF were both hostile takeovers, fom the silly album names, to the sappy songs to the artwork. But I'll give Neal a pass on ROR, but to let him do it again with TBF without a contractual obligation to tour was just plain irresponsible.

[Don]

So, could we say that in addition to Perry stealing ten years from the band, that Neal himself may have partially hindered the group's rebirth for another decade or so by not being more assertive AFTER he "got his band back"?

Absolutely. He should have recognized that Augeri was taking them nowhere after about 2002 and replaced him. I'll also put Neal on the hook for 5 years there and for 1994-1998. Perry should have been fired immediately after announcing the FTLOSM tour. They held on to that bum for far too long. ROR and TBF were both hostile takeovers, fom the silly album names, to the sappy songs to the artwork. But I'll give Neal a pass on ROR, but to let him do it again with TBF without a contractual obligation to tour was just plain irresponsible.

I think if Neal listens to Herbie in 84, the potential for a Van Hagar transition was there. Bad English could very well have been a template for Journey 2.0, four years earlier.

[Saint John]

To say that was not discussed makes me think that you are a little off center.

It was discussed and it was also largely agreed upon that everyone thought the writing would stay primarily with Neal and Jon. Again, this means there wasn't any expectation of Arnel writing more than he actually did.

The above comments from Neal just makes it clear that HE and JON are the ones who hashed out what
this new venture is going to be.

This is totally incorrect. I can write lyrics and it won't tell you a fucking thing about the song musically (rock, metal, jazz ... tempo, arrangement, etc). The "direction" of the album was Neal's idea and Arnel had input. You can bet your big ass on it. If anything, Jon gave ground there and didn't "hash out" the direction/venture. But I'm sure he added/aided with melody.

BTW I love Faithfully, thanks for asking!

Thank Jon Cain. He brought melody to the band.

[portland]

To say that was not discussed makes me think that you are a little off center.

It was discussed and it was also largely agreed upon that everyone thought the writing would stay primarily with Neal and Jon. Again, this means there wasn't any expectation of Arnel writing more than he actually did.

The above comments from Neal just makes it clear that HE and JON are the ones who hashed out what
this new venture is going to be.

This is totally incorrect. I can write lyrics and it won't tell you a fucking thing about the song musically (rock, metal, jazz ... tempo, arrangement, etc). The "direction" of the album was Neal's idea and Arnel had input. You can bet your big ass on it. If anything, Jon gave ground there and didn't "hash out" the direction/venture. But I'm sure he added/aided with melody.

BTW I love Faithfully, thanks for asking!

Thank Jon Cain. He brought melody to the band.

Ok I must have missed the big agreement that everyone signed....I must have been absent that day.

Your fixation with my ass really needs to stop....get a new insult so we can change it up a bit.

As for Faithfully....it is the vocals and emotion that makes me love the song...so if it's okay
with you (master of ALL things Journey) I will give that credit to Perry.

[Don]

Faithfully is one song I think should go back to Deen. In 2008 Arnel handled it well, but in 2009 it just sounded like shit. Either sing it in the original key or let the drummer do the honors, it's just become a sonic mess.

[Maui Tom]

Faithfully is one song I think should go back to Deen. In 2008 Arnel handled it well, but in 2009 it just sounded like shit. Either sing it in the original key or let the drummer do the honors, it's just become a sonic mess.

STFU and come to Vegas and enjoy you fucking douche.....

[Don]

Faithfully is one song I think should go back to Deen. In 2008 Arnel handled it well, but in 2009 it just sounded like shit. Either sing it in the original key or let the drummer do the honors, it's just become a sonic mess.

STFU and come to Vegas and enjoy you fucking douche.....

Wait, I'm not done bitching yet.

[RocknRoll]

Faithfully is one song I think should go back to Deen. In 2008 Arnel handled it well, but in 2009 it just sounded like shit. Either sing it in the original key or let the drummer do the honors, it's just become a sonic mess.

STFU and come to Vegas and enjoy you fucking douche.....

Good point MT, it's a couple hours drive for GB. You could be THERE!!!

[Maui Tom]

Faithfully is one song I think should go back to Deen. In 2008 Arnel handled it well, but in 2009 it just sounded like shit. Either sing it in the original key or let the drummer do the honors, it's just become a sonic mess.

STFU and come to Vegas and enjoy you fucking douche.....

Wait, I'm not done bitching yet.

Put all that shit on the back burner and rock out with us lifers.....seriously....

[fredinator]

"It sounds amazing. I’m in love with the record, which I haven’t said for a long time. I was very involved with this record."

This is how it should've been every time. I thought that was the whole point of "taking the reigns back". I can't believe Neal even let a substandard product like Generations hit the shelves. Luckily it sounds like this new one is a bonafide classic.

So, could we say that in addition to Perry stealing ten years from the band, that Neal himself may have partially hindered the group's rebirth for another decade or so by not being more assertive AFTER he "got his band back"?

Nah, when it came to "Arrival", his hands were tied. They had to prove themselves out on the road with Augeri before Sony would even re-sign them. Then Kalodner picked the tracks. But there was no excuse for "Generations" to be so shitty.

TNC I really, really like a few of the songs off of Generations--especially Knowing That You Love Me... You don't like that one? I think Neal's playing on it is beautiful... Loved the way SA sang it, too.

Anyhoo, thanks for posting Neal's quote (I can't remember who posted it--sorry about that)--his happiness with the record makes me happy, too, lol. Really, really looking forward to it..

[isla]

http://www.lvrj.com/neon/journey-giving ... 60468.html

Journey giving preview of new album at Planet Hollywood

Jonathan Cain knew the "Glee" thing was going to be big.

"I've got two teenage daughters that keep me abreast of what's going on in teenage world," says the Journey man who turns 61 on Feb. 26. They assured him, "This is huge, OMG."

Yes it was. "Don't Stop Believin' " became the Fox TV hit's de facto theme song and set download sales records for a song that first hit the Top 10 in late 1981. The TV cast's remake was nominated for a Grammy, and Cain was in the audience with his 17-year-old daughter Sunday when it lost to his friends from Train.

"Good for us and good for 'Glee,' " Cain says of the song for which he plays the immortal piano lead-in as the group's keyboardist. "Glad they can get some mileage out of a song that's almost 30 years old now."

Cain says he saw it coming, even before the song's inclusion in the "Rock of Ages" Broadway musical that paved the way to "Glee." When Journey regrouped in 1998 and started to play "Don't Stop Believin' " live, "it was the one that always resonated with the kids, and they would always start charging the stage. I knew something was up. I didn't know how big it was going to get.

"It's kind of neat to see that side of it through their eyes, how the young generation perceives us," he adds. "Journey's sort of ageless in that sense. We're not like some old creeper band from the '80s with long hair that nobody cares about."

Journey, in fact, seems the one veteran group that's been aided rather than diminished by drafting a younger, sound-alike singer -- 43-year-old Arnel Pineda -- to replace the voice of its '80s heyday, Steve Perry. "We like his energy. He's brought a lot of heart and soul to this band," Cain says of the quintet still helmed by founding guitarist Neal Schon.

The Filipino Pineda also inspires a lot of national pride. "When you can play Manila for 40,000 people, that kind of works."

Come May, however, Journey wants to quit looking back and start living as a present-tense band again. Wednesday's audience at Planet Hollywood's concert hall is due for a three-song preview of the new album, "Eclipse," due May 24.

Cain describes it as "a concept record with some spiritual themes to it. Pretty tough, hard-hitting stuff. This is Journey with big combat boots on. And helmet and a rifle."

Cain's lyrics sustain the band's hopeful themes of "searching for soulfulness and enlightenment and love and all the stuff that Journey's about." But the album also has a larger dynamic sweep with "some darker stuff in there."

"We just felt like it was time to send a message to the world about how we feel about life in general," he says.

The album incorporates Hindu principles of Tantra, "the belief that life is kind of a weave, a circle of energy, a life force that's woven with the universe in all of us. We dove deep into it."

Cain goes so far as to call the album "one of those headphone records."

That's a genre that may take a bit of explaining for younger "Gleeks."

[The_Noble_Cause]

TNC I really, really like a few of the songs off of Generations--especially Knowing That You Love Me... You don't like that one? ..

There's a few standouts, but far too much filler. Did fans really wait years for a new J album to hear Ross sing? Neal was devoting all his time to Sirkus and it showed.

[Eric]

TNC I really, really like a few of the songs off of Generations--especially Knowing That You Love Me... You don't like that one? ..

There's a few standouts, but far too much filler. Did fans really wait years for a new J album to hear Ross sing? Neal was devoting all his time to Sirkus and it showed.

I think there were 5 outstanding songs: Faith in the Heartland, Place in your Heart, Out of Harms Way, Beyond the Clouds and Never too Late. Combine those 5 with Red13...give it better production and its a fine album.

[Saint John]

TNC I really, really like a few of the songs off of Generations--especially Knowing That You Love Me... You don't like that one? ..

There's a few standouts, but far too much filler. Did fans really wait years for a new J album to hear Ross sing? Neal was devoting all his time to Sirkus and it showed.

Correction: Neal didn't have a healthy singer and it showed.