What Option Would You Prefer In Regards To Perry And Journey

by **mikemarrs** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:39 am

There Was Huge Reunion........

with Perry but after this reunion tour there would be no more albums or tours ever again

or do you prefer the way it is right now where they could go on for years with the way it is now.

A.the way it is now and many years left with current band

B.one final tour with Perry then retire for good.no more albums or tours

C. not sure

by **S2M** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:43 am

There are more Arnel sympathizers now than loons. It's sad. I know how this one is going to turn out. Suddenly Perry is persona non grata, and Arnel is the 2nd coming....People would go see this band if Ross were the only member. I know it.

Website · by **steveo777** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:49 am

As a fan of "the band" I chose option one.

Another rehashed subject to get wrapped around the axles with this morning, I see. :wink:

I still think Andrew should have combined the Journey and Perry forums.

I'll say this in advance.....some of your fuckers are so loonie you'd blow up a perfectly
good band just for one night with he who can no longer sing. :roll:

by **Don** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:59 am

I've seen Perry with Journey four times, no need for me to see a reunion gig. As long as the man keeps getting paid for the music that makes up of most Journey's setlist, I see everything fair and square the way it is now.

With the the Greatest Hits being the one album that people can actually get their hands, Perry is sure to see a little bump in his royalty payments again as Journey tours South America for the first time. With the business model Journey is using now, both they and Steve are winners. I say leave everything as is.

by **Saint John** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:04 am

Don wrote:I've seen Perry with Journey four times, no need for me to see a reunion gig. As long as the man keeps getting paid for the music that makes up of most Journey's setlist, I see everything fair and square the way it is now.

With the the Greatest Hits being the one album that people can actually get their hands, Perry is sure to see a little bump in his royalty payments again as Journey tours South America for the first time. With the business model Journey is using now, both they and Steve are winners. I say leave everything as is.

I'm with you, man. Besides, the guy couldn't do it even if he wanted to. He's done.

Website · by **steveo777** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:12 am

The votes are also gonna tip the wrong way for awhile until we get through the lurking loons, who think with their
vags, instead of their ears. :lol:

by **Michigan Girl** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:19 am

I don't really think I'm a fan of the band, but I wish them luck!!

Perry can sing, although, he won't w/them ...I'd still pick the 2nd option
and pay a lot of moola and give up sex if he did ... :wink:

Isn't it funny how steveo is so tired of these threads, but he's always
the first green monster commenting ... he's more jealous of SP's
legacy than Neal is!! :evil:

Website · by **steveo777** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:27 am

Michigan Girl wrote:I don't really think I'm a fan of the band, but I wish them luck!!

Perry can sing, although, he won't w/them ...I'd still pick the 2nd option
and pay a lot of moola and give up sex if he did ...

Isn't it funny how steveo is so tired of these threads, but he's always
the first green monster commenting ... he's more jealous of SP's
legacy than Neal is!!

I knew it and that makes you irrelevant to any Journey discussion! So tell me, why do you and others who
share your views bother posting in the Journey forum? Is it to be a killjoy, or perhaps, you and others are
extremely bothered that Journey is having success? I honestly believe there are people who, if it were in their
power, would sabotage this band. I've read some crazy assed comments out there. :shock:

by **brywool** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:27 am

S2M wrote:There are more Arnel sympathizers now than loons. It's sad. I know how this one is going to turn out. Suddenly Perry is persona non grata, and Arnel is the 2nd coming....People would go see this band if Ross were the only member. I know it.

Perry is persona non grata by his own hand. That's what he wants.
Arnel is out there WORKING. Perry is resting on his laurels.
Arnel is not the second coming, but he is one talented little mofo that is giving new life to a great band. He's also, by ALL accounts, a great guy.
Steve wins. Journey wins. Arnel wins. It's all good... but people are just never satisfied.

Do fans really want to hear Perry come out and struggle to sing the old hits? Why?
It'd be nice to see him do his own thing, but touring is not something I could ever see Steve Perry doing again, especially singing the higher Journey hits. Maybe a show or two, and I don't understand why he doesn't do that, but a tour? I don't think it will happen again. I've stopped believing that he'll do anything again and the fact that this topic comes up every single day is just people living in the past. Move on folks...

by **Michigan Girl** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:29 am

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:I don't really think I'm a fan of the band, but I wish them luck!!

Perry can sing, although, he won't w/them ...I'd still pick the 2nd option
and pay a lot of moola and give up sex if he did ...

Isn't it funny how steveo is so tired of these threads, but he's always
the first green monster commenting ... he's more jealous of SP's
legacy than Neal is!!

I knew it and that makes you irrelevant to any Journey discussion! So tell me, why do you and others who
share your views bother posting in the Journey forum? Is it to be a killjoy, or perhaps, you and others are
extremely bothered that Journey is having success? I honestly believe there are people who, if it were in their
power, would sabotage this band. I've read some crazy assed comments out there.

Same reason
you buy the stuff, listen to it a couple of times, toss it aside and CALL yourself a fan!! I'm relevent, just
watch ... :wink:

Website · by **steveo777** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:33 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:I don't really think I'm a fan of the band, but I wish them luck!!

Perry can sing, although, he won't w/them ...I'd still pick the 2nd option
and pay a lot of moola and give up sex if he did ...

Isn't it funny how steveo is so tired of these threads, but he's always
the first green monster commenting ... he's more jealous of SP's
legacy than Neal is!!

I knew it and that makes you irrelevant to any Journey discussion! So tell me, why do you and others who
share your views bother posting in the Journey forum? Is it to be a killjoy, or perhaps, you and others are
extremely bothered that Journey is having success? I honestly believe there are people who, if it were in their
power, would sabotage this band. I've read some crazy assed comments out there.
Same reason
you buy the stuff, listen to it a couple of times, toss it aside and CALL yourself a fan!! I'm relevent, just
watch ...

If you go to one future Journey show you are a fan. Tell me with honesty that you are never going to see another
Journey concert?

Thot so.....suck one cock and you are a cocksucker and if you suck an unbathed one, you are a dirty cocksucker. :lol:

by **Don** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:45 am

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:I don't really think I'm a fan of the band, but I wish them luck!!

Perry can sing, although, he won't w/them ...I'd still pick the 2nd option
and pay a lot of moola and give up sex if he did ...

Isn't it funny how steveo is so tired of these threads, but he's always
the first green monster commenting ... he's more jealous of SP's
legacy than Neal is!!

I knew it and that makes you irrelevant to any Journey discussion! So tell me, why do you and others who
share your views bother posting in the Journey forum? Is it to be a killjoy, or perhaps, you and others are
extremely bothered that Journey is having success? I honestly believe there are people who, if it were in their
power, would sabotage this band. I've read some crazy assed comments out there.

This forum has always been both Journey/Anti Journey. I know there was a moment when the plokkers tried to overwhelm and make it a third fan site for the little guy it but once they were exposed as idol worshippers with really no interest nor education in the band's history beyond Pineda, everything went back to normal. That's why MR is unique and in the long run, it hasn't hurt anything.
Even with all the bickering back and forth, Andrew still got to be the exclusive provider of the one audio clip of new music out there from Eclipse so the band must still value this place in some capacity, warts and all.

by **Eric** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:48 am

Michigan Girl wrote: Perry can sing, although, he won't w/them ...I'd still pick the 2nd option
and pay a lot of moola and give up sex if he did ...

With who?!

Website · by **steveo777** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:50 am

Eric wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote: Perry can sing, although, he won't w/them ...I'd still pick the 2nd option
and pay a lot of moola and give up sex if he did ...

With who?!

Yeah, really. Isn't she like 72 years old or something? Now that's what I'd call playing in a sand box! :shock:

by **Archetype** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:56 am

First choice. But more for Deen Castronovo than anything else. He's a monster and puts on a show by himself.

by **parfait** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:31 am

Archetype wrote:First choice. But more for Deen Castronovo than anything else. He's a monster and puts on a show by himself.

Let him OD on ritalin and alcohol, and let the man Steve Smith take the drums. If Perry would do a few dates with Journey, then that would be awesome, and I would be the first guy to buy a ticket - but that's not gonna happen. He's done.

Arnel is perfectly fine for the band, and does a awesome job all things considered. Steve Perry (Infinity to Frontiers) was simply too good.

by **Michigan Girl** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:37 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
steveo777 wrote:If you go to one future Journey show you are a fan. Tell me with honesty that you are never going to see another
Journey concert?

Thot so.....suck one cock and you are a cocksucker and if you suck an unbathed one, you are a dirty cocksucker.
I am a fan of the music ...always!! I'm just not certain that I'm what one could call a fan of the band as a whole~anymore ...I don't love everything like I used to!! I will be attending a show, or two if Foreigner kicks ass!!
If the new J~boyz songs are great, that is just an extra added bonus for me!!
I think I stated last year that I'm done with the DD.
I'm almost positive that you know what you wrote ^^^ doesn't describe me as a fan
or a as human, but if it makes you feel better to say it, knock yourself out!!

You are a lickspittle!!

BTW~once the band started being known as the J~boyz ...huge turn off for me~HUGE!!!

by **Archetype** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:55 am

parfait wrote:
Archetype wrote:First choice. But more for Deen Castronovo than anything else. He's a monster and puts on a show by himself.

Let him OD on ritalin and alcohol, and let the man Steve Smith take the drums. If Perry would do a few dates with Journey, then that would be awesome, and I would be the first guy to buy a ticket - but that's not gonna happen. He's done.

Arnel is perfectly fine for the band, and does a awesome job all things considered. Steve Perry (Infinity to Frontiers) was simply too good.

Deen is a really awesome drummer and a seemingly great guy. His substance abuse ended in 2002-2003 . He puts on a better, if less "techincal" show than Steve Smith.

by **Michigan Girl** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:05 am

I would say Smitty falls second to Deen vocally ~period!!
I enjoy Deen, but NO EFFING Way!! :lol:

Course ...opinions :?:

by **ebake02** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:20 am

Option A.

I would LOVE to see SP with Journey again but honestly, after 10+ years of not performing, there is no way his voice is in good enough shape to handle classic Journey. They would have to tune everything way way down to the point where it would sound like shit.

by **Jana** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:28 am

Definitely leave it the way it is. I can't imagine only one more tour and never seeing this band live again. If they were just up there bored, treading water, average singer, I would say yes, but that's not the case. And I LOVE Journey music live. I love all of them in concert still, truly great musicians who have passion on stage (well, except Jon every once in a while LOL, but his playing is always beautiful), and they've got a singer who can really deliver on the music, with Arnel Watching Neal on guitar in concert with the band is amazing. I so love listening to Deen on a few songs and watching him drum. Great band.

I guess it's easy to make this decision anyway, because Perry hasn't sung live in 16 years and only one tour live in 23 years or so. So his passion for live performing seems gone, or whatever his reason is. So it seems inconceivable to me, anyway. Perry has wanted to be a solo artist since he left after ROR. So I say let him do another solo album and tour and sing all of his solo songs and the Journey songs of his choice that he feels comfortable with now. But, imo, seeing him live (even a one-off concert filmed for DVD) will never happen.

It's not like asking the same scenario regarding Styx and DD, which is far more believable, because both parties are still out performing live and their voices are still amazing on the songs and they all still have a passion for live performing. It would be putting their differences behind them and would you want it even if it meant you could never ever see Styx again with Gowan over the coming years.

by **S2M** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:33 am

Jana wrote:Definitely leave it the way it is. I can't imagine only one more tour and never seeing this band live again. If they were just up there bored, treading water, average singer, I would say yes, but that's not the case. And I LOVE Journey music live. I love all of them in concert still, truly great musicians who have passion on stage (well, except Jon every once in a while LOL, but his playing is always beautiful), and they've got a singer who can really deliver on the music, with Arnel Watching Neal on guitar in concert with the band is amazing. I so love listening to Deen on a few songs and watching him drum. Great band.

I guess it's easy to make this decision anyway, because Perry hasn't sung live in 16 years and only one tour live in 23 years or so. So his passion for live performing seems gone, or whatever his reason is. So it seems inconceivable to me, anyway. Perry has wanted to be a solo artist since he left after ROR. So I say let him do another solo album and tour and sing all of his solo songs and the Journey songs of his choice that he feels comfortable with now. But, imo, seeing him live (even a one-off concert filmed for DVD) will never happen.

It's not like asking the same scenario regarding Styx and DD, which is far more believable, because both parties are still out performing live and their voices are still amazing on the songs and they all still have a passion for live performing. It would be putting their differences behind them and would you want it even if it meant you could never ever see Styx again with Gowan over the coming years.

Hell yes.....another band ruining their legacy.

by **Michigan Girl** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:48 am

S2M wrote:
Jana wrote:Definitely leave it the way it is. I can't imagine only one more tour and never seeing this band live again. If they were just up there bored, treading water, average singer, I would say yes, but that's not the case. And I LOVE Journey music live. I love all of them in concert still, truly great musicians who have passion on stage (well, except Jon every once in a while LOL, but his playing is always beautiful), and they've got a singer who can really deliver on the music, with Arnel Watching Neal on guitar in concert with the band is amazing. I so love listening to Deen on a few songs and watching him drum. Great band.

I guess it's easy to make this decision anyway, because Perry hasn't sung live in 16 years and only one tour live in 23 years or so. So his passion for live performing seems gone, or whatever his reason is. So it seems inconceivable to me, anyway. Perry has wanted to be a solo artist since he left after ROR. So I say let him do another solo album and tour and sing all of his solo songs and the Journey songs of his choice that he feels comfortable with now. But, imo, seeing him live (even a one-off concert filmed for DVD) will never happen.

It's not like asking the same scenario regarding Styx and DD, which is far more believable, because both parties are still out performing live and their voices are still amazing on the songs and they all still have a passion for live performing. It would be putting their differences behind them and would you want it even if it meant you could never ever see Styx again with Gowan over the coming years.

Hell yes.....another band ruining their legacy.

I can probably name the few people who would answer NO!!

by **Don** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:55 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
S2M wrote:
Jana wrote:Definitely leave it the way it is. I can't imagine only one more tour and never seeing this band live again. If they were just up there bored, treading water, average singer, I would say yes, but that's not the case. And I LOVE Journey music live. I love all of them in concert still, truly great musicians who have passion on stage (well, except Jon every once in a while LOL, but his playing is always beautiful), and they've got a singer who can really deliver on the music, with Arnel Watching Neal on guitar in concert with the band is amazing. I so love listening to Deen on a few songs and watching him drum. Great band.

I guess it's easy to make this decision anyway, because Perry hasn't sung live in 16 years and only one tour live in 23 years or so. So his passion for live performing seems gone, or whatever his reason is. So it seems inconceivable to me, anyway. Perry has wanted to be a solo artist since he left after ROR. So I say let him do another solo album and tour and sing all of his solo songs and the Journey songs of his choice that he feels comfortable with now. But, imo, seeing him live (even a one-off concert filmed for DVD) will never happen.

It's not like asking the same scenario regarding Styx and DD, which is far more believable, because both parties are still out performing live and their voices are still amazing on the songs and they all still have a passion for live performing. It would be putting their differences behind them and would you want it even if it meant you could never ever see Styx again with Gowan over the coming years.

Hell yes.....another band ruining their legacy.
I can probably name the few people who would answer NO!!

Tommy Shaw was on KLOS this morning and he agreed with Mark and Brian that Gowan sucks but said that since that's JY's boy, the band is stuck with him.

by **RedWingFan** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:24 pm

Don wrote:Tommy Shaw was on KLOS this morning and he agreed with Mark and Brian that Gowan sucks but said that since that's JY's boy, the band is stuck with him.

WHAT????? :lol:

by **Andrew** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:11 pm

S2M wrote:There are more Arnel sympathizers now than loons. It's sad. I know how this one is going to turn out. Suddenly Perry is persona non grata, and Arnel is the 2nd coming....People would go see this band if Ross were the only member. I know it.

Steve retired in 1996.

by **Ligzig** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:45 pm

S2M wrote:There are more Arnel sympathizers now than loons. It's sad. I know how this one is going to turn out. Suddenly Perry is persona non grata, and Arnel is the 2nd coming....People would go see this band if Ross were the only member. I know it.

I don't see anyone here being an "Arnel sympathyzer" the guy has a good voice, and he can do his job well. People are fans of the current incarnation and from the sounds of things, they are putting out a pretty awesome album. Simple as that. EVERYONE knows about Journey's legacy with Perry. Hell, to most casuals, Journey = Perry and that will never change. His legacy is cemented in the bands history. Nobody is going to photoshop the head of Arnel onto every old photo of Perry from the 80's. Everyone knows the history, everyone respects Perrys legacy, he gets paid for his work, it's time to move on...

...which is exactly what Journey are doing. They do not need to continuously and tirelessly keep bringing up the past.

by **JohnH** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:16 pm

Ah man these polls and qs it just goes on forever. The man SIMPLY CAN NOT DO IT ANY MORE.

by **VirgilTheart** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:23 pm

I personally like how things are now for Journey. Arnel's a wonderful frontman, and I'd rather go see a singer who can actually belt out the tunes right instead of hearing the remnants of the Voice that initially created the songs.

by **Babyblue** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:47 pm

Don wrote:I've seen Perry with Journey four times, no need for me to see a reunion gig. As long as the man keeps getting paid for the music that makes up of most Journey's setlist, I see everything fair and square the way it is now.

With the the Greatest Hits being the one album that people can actually get their hands, Perry is sure to see a little bump in his royalty payments again as Journey tours South America for the first time. With the business model Journey is using now, both they and Steve are winners. I say leave everything as is.

I have seen journey with Perry 3 times.No need for me to ever see them again. :wink:

MR