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by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:32 am

Links for the two new singles can be found at journeymusic.com and arnelpineda.ning.com

Here are the youtubes.

COH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0IKs8CY ... re=related

HF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEAT-fBI ... r_embedded

by **brywool** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:50 am

by **St.George** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:00 am

Cool!

I've just opened a topic with the "Human Feel" song, but I've deleted already...

by **Eric** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:03 am

I prefer Human Feel I think. I really dig it. Both are probably top 10 post-Perry songs...but not top 5.

by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:05 am

St.George wrote:Cool!

I've just opened a topic with the "Human Feel" song, but I've deleted already...

Double cool!

by **brywool** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:10 am

haven't heard HF yet...
So, if these are singles, why is their record company giving them away? that seems kinda nutty Beav.

by **RocknRoll** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:11 am

...I'm know I'm showing my ignorance here...Again...but I still don't know the difference between Wav and MP3. Do I really care? How about a fairly simple explanation?

by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:13 am

brywool wrote:haven't heard HF yet...
So, if these are singles, why is their record company giving them away? that seems kinda nutty Beav.

I'm not sure. If everything isn't on the up and up, we'll know soon enough.

by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:17 am

RocknRoll wrote:...I'm know I'm showing my ignorance here...Again...but I still don't know the difference between Wav and MP3. Do I really care? How about a fairly simple explanation?

Wav files aren't compressed generally so you get to hear the music much closer to the way it should sound originally in the studio. When you make a file smaller, like an Mp3, you have to sacrifice some quality which tends to be some highs and some lows.
A lot of people don't care or can't hear the difference anyway but for some of us the higher fidelity recording is what we want.

by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:19 am

Human Feel slays COH so far. Definitely has more of an edge, at least to me. It's all about the percussion in this song.

by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:21 am

We have to remember that these are edits and that the album versions are probably going to really bring everything together.

by **S2M** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:22 am

Don wrote:We have to remember that these are edits and that the album versions are probably going to really bring everything together.

Probably just Neal wanking..... :lol:

by **Jana** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:23 am

Don wrote:Human Feel slays COH so far. Definitely has more of an edge, at least to me. It's all about the percussion in this song.

Definitely. Thanks for linking, Don.

by **brywool** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:26 am

I think COH is the more Journey sounding tune, but HF is pretty cool too. Kind of reminds me of an album cut as opposed to a single. No problem with that!

by **RocknRoll** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:29 am

Don wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:...I'm know I'm showing my ignorance here...Again...but I still don't know the difference between Wav and MP3. Do I really care? How about a fairly simple explanation?

Wav files aren't compressed generally so you get to hear the music much closer to the way it should sound originally in the studio. When you make a file smaller, like an Mp3, you have to sacrifice some quality which tends to be some highs and some lows.
A lot of people don't care or can't hear the difference anyway but for some of us the higher fidelity recording is what we want.

Thanks!

by **Archetype** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:49 am

Human Feel vs. City of Hope:

Human Feel for sure. I'm really excited to hear how it can stand up to Edge of the Moment

by **S2M** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:51 am

Archetype wrote:Human Feel vs. City of Hope:

Human Feel for sure. I'm really excited to hear how it can stand up to Edge of the Moment

But how does it stand up to Edge of the Blade? Not even close.

by **Ehwmatt** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:59 am

After spending the last few days with City of Hope, it's cool instrumentally for sure. But, where is the song? It's all prechorus. There is no release. The "chorus" starting with the City of Hope lyrics sounds like a prechorus or a bridge. There needed to be something that soared and got bigger and catchier after that part. The full song won't cure that, I can tell that by the basic melody and structure of the song.

Only been through Human Feel once, so thoughts reserved for later.

by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:01 am

Ehwmatt wrote:After spending the last few days with City of Hope, it's cool instrumentally for sure. But, where is the song? It's all prechorus. There is no release. The "chorus" starting with the City of Hope lyrics sounds like a prechorus or a bridge. There needed to be something that soared and got bigger and catchier after that part. The full song won't cure that, I can tell that by the basic melody and structure of the song.

Only been through Human Feel once, so thoughts reserved for later.

Great summarization. You explained the problem with COH way better than I ever could.
I'm sure you're right about the edits as it's probably Neal's guitar work getting neutered more than anything else.
If it is the outro solos being hacked, these songs are suffering the fate that WCN avoided when it made it to radio.

by **Memorex** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:08 am

Don wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:After spending the last few days with City of Hope, it's cool instrumentally for sure. But, where is the song? It's all prechorus. There is no release. The "chorus" starting with the City of Hope lyrics sounds like a prechorus or a bridge. There needed to be something that soared and got bigger and catchier after that part. The full song won't cure that, I can tell that by the basic melody and structure of the song.

Only been through Human Feel once, so thoughts reserved for later.

Great summarization. You explained the problem with COH way better than I ever could.

I was thinking that too - the transition from Verse to Chorus seemed like a shortcut or lazy.

by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:37 am

Loving Human Feel. The vocals are secondary with this song, it's all about the beat.

by **brandonx76** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:46 am

Doesn't make any sense to just release the tracks freely? No direct links on Frontier's website...not that I'm complaining...I plan to buy the album and blast the hell out of it once I do...

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:55 am

Ehwmatt wrote:After spending the last few days with City of Hope, it's cool instrumentally for sure. But, where is the song? It's all prechorus. There is no release. The "chorus" starting with the City of Hope lyrics sounds like a prechorus or a bridge. There needed to be something that soared and got bigger and catchier after that part. The full song won't cure that, I can tell that by the basic melody and structure of the song.

Very well said. Thanks. It's not bad by any stretch, it's just missing that vital hook to sink your teeth into.

by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:59 am

brandonx76 wrote:Doesn't make any sense to just release the tracks freely? No direct links on Frontier's website...not that I'm complaining...I plan to buy the album and blast the hell out of it once I do...

All I can say is I got the initial link from the status update area on the homepage of Journey's official website. If there's a problem, the band need look no further than their own front door.

by **Majestic** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:03 am

I don't see either of these becoming favorites, but I give the edge to City of Hope.

by **VirgilTheart** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:19 am

Don wrote:Human Feel slays COH so far. Definitely has more of an edge, at least to me. It's all about the percussion in this song.

While I like both songs so far, I have to agree. :twisted:

Quite possibly the best work I've heard from Deen that comes to mind. :wink:

by **JRNYMAN** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:54 am

Just d-loaded and listened to Human Feel for the first time. It rocks and really brings out the color in Deen's eyes! :lol:

The first time I heard the chorus it immediately reminded me of RUSH circa the Signals era. It just sorta has a bouncy, progressive sorta feel to it. Good stuff! Thanks Frontiers for the free ear candy!

by **Argus** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:00 am

Don wrote:
brandonx76 wrote:Doesn't make any sense to just release the tracks freely? No direct links on Frontier's website...not that I'm complaining...I plan to buy the album and blast the hell out of it once I do...

All I can say is I got the initial link from the status update area on the homepage of Journey's official website. If there's a problem, the band need look no further than their own front door.

Mhm but why no Tweet or FB promo, if this is a planned leak, then tell the world.

by **S2M** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:02 am

Argus wrote:
Don wrote:
brandonx76 wrote:Doesn't make any sense to just release the tracks freely? No direct links on Frontier's website...not that I'm complaining...I plan to buy the album and blast the hell out of it once I do...

All I can say is I got the initial link from the status update area on the homepage of Journey's official website. If there's a problem, the band need look no further than their own front door.

Mhm but why no Tweet or FB promo, if this is a planned leak, then tell the world.

Journey management is so lame. One clusterfuck after another.....

by **Don** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:14 am

I noticed that Journey finally fixed the spelling of Nomota on their website after I mentioned it here in this forum. Coincidence? :wink:

Also, Lori Carpenter is no longer listed as the designer.

MR

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