Eclipse Extended Promo Video Posted

[steveo777]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PWiEhzJkPU

Thanks for Fabbest for posting it.

A little more of a taste.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PWiEhzJkPU

Thanks for Fabbest for posting it.

Or Andrew for re-tweeting it a couple of hours ago.

Cool video.

[steveo777]

The sound is huge sounds amazing. Sorry, didn't see Andrew's tweet.

[S2M]

Meh...a weird album. Like I said, Journey in name only. She's a Mystery sounds promising. I have no idea where these huge epic hooks are that Andrew basically shot his wad over...

[Don]

Still waiting to hear that one clip or sample that knocks my socks off, something akin to After I fall from WET's album. Glad to see no signs of ballads so far (That's a good thing) The abundance of hooks that Neal is talking about; what am I missing there?

Looks like this album can't be judged until all the cards are on the table.

[steveo777]

Meh...a weird album. Like I said, Journey in name only. She's a Mystery sounds promising. I have no idea where these huge epic hooks are that Andrew basically shot his wad over...

Fuck dude, to me it sounds better than anything they have done post ROR, but if ya don't want to like it, you won't. I don't get the Journey in name only.
It sounds like Journey to me. I'm excited actually and from what I've heard so far I'm not just gonna like this album, I believe I will love it, possibly as
much as any Journey in my collection.

[brywool]

Meh...a weird album. Like I said, Journey in name only. She's a Mystery sounds promising. I have no idea where these huge epic hooks are that Andrew basically shot his wad over...

Fuck dude, to me it sounds better than anything they have done post ROR, but if ya don't want to like it, you won't. I don't get the Journey in name only.
It sounds like Journey to me. I'm excited actually and from what I've heard so far I'm not just gonna like this album, I believe I will love it, possibly as
much as any Journey in my collection.

sounds great to me. Thanks for posting it. I dig the interaction between Neal and Arnel, it's good to see. Neal never seemed that into Steve Augeri to me, so it's cool to see that interaction between band members.

Note to Neal- No need to talk about Frontiers and Escape. Stand on the current band, not the past. That was then, this is now and now sounds great. "Then" was great too, but there's no need to promote the old stuff.

She's a Mystery sounds excellent. Love the acoustic guitar and was surprised to see that was Cain and not Neal playing. Cool.

[Don]

Meh...a weird album. Like I said, Journey in name only. She's a Mystery sounds promising. I have no idea where these huge epic hooks are that Andrew basically shot his wad over...

Fuck dude, to me it sounds better than anything they have done post ROR, but if ya don't want to like it, you won't. I don't get the Journey in name only.
It sounds like Journey to me. I'm excited actually and from what I've heard so far I'm not just gonna like this album, I believe I will love it, possibly as
much as any Journey in my collection.

sounds great to me. Thanks for posting it. I dig the interaction between Neal and Arnel, it's good to see. Neal never seemed that into Steve Augeri to me, so it's cool to see that interaction between band members.

Note to Neal- No need to talk about Frontiers and Escape. Stand on the current band, not the past. That was then, this is now and now sounds great. "Then" was great too, but there's no need to promote the old stuff.

She's a Mystery sounds excellent. Love the acoustic guitar and was surprised to see that was Cain and not Neal playing. Cool.

I agree. Looking at the world charts that stuff is still selling, no need to promote it. If Neal could do radio spots with out whining about the past, basically say the same thing he is saying right here, it would be great.

[S2M]

Still waiting to hear that one clip or sample that knocks my socks off, something akin to After I fall from WET's album. Glad to see no signs of ballads so far (That's a good thing) The abundance of hooks that Neal is talking about; what am I missing there?

Looks like this album can't be judged until all the cards are on the table.

I disagree with one thing. It CAN be judged now. We've heard numerous clips, different clips. Even official clips^^^^^. Not a hook, or catchy music to be found. You figure they'd want to release a catchy clip to snag the fans...the only conclusion is there is none. People want to like this album...and I'm not saying they don't, or won't like it....but I don't think it'll be an album to love. Andrew has to gush about it. He runs a website that reviews releases. And he wasn't exactly in good graces with the band for awhile...do the math.

I'm glad the band is doing what they want....I just don't think that is a good decision. When the dust clears - it will be judged a failure.

[Don]

Still waiting to hear that one clip or sample that knocks my socks off, something akin to After I fall from WET's album. Glad to see no signs of ballads so far (That's a good thing) The abundance of hooks that Neal is talking about; what am I missing there?

Looks like this album can't be judged until all the cards are on the table.

I disagree with one thing. It CAN be judged now. We've heard numerous clips, different clips. Even official clips^^^^^. Not a hook, or catchy music to be found. You figure they'd want to release a catchy clip to snag the fans...the only conclusion is there is none. People want to like this album...and I'm not saying they don't, or won't like it....but I don't think it'll be an album to love. Andrew has to gush about it. He runs a website that reviews releases. And he wasn't exactly in good graces with the band for awhile...do the math.

I'm glad the band is doing what they want....I just don't think that is a good decision. When the dust clears - it will be judged a failure.

It sounds as good as White Snake's last release so far (Partial judgement of course, from the five songs we heard on Youtube and the clips of other songs). It's not going to be a bad album but I don't see it increasing Journey's fanbase as it's not quite hard enough to bring in the Heavy Metal crowd (not that I expected it to, the band's name is still Journey, after all. Not to mention, they are touring with Foreigner, NOT Scorpions)
I will say, from what I've heard so far, I think I will enjoy this tenfold over Revelation.

[brywool]

Meh...a weird album. Like I said, Journey in name only. She's a Mystery sounds promising. I have no idea where these huge epic hooks are that Andrew basically shot his wad over...

Fuck dude, to me it sounds better than anything they have done post ROR, but if ya don't want to like it, you won't. I don't get the Journey in name only.
It sounds like Journey to me. I'm excited actually and from what I've heard so far I'm not just gonna like this album, I believe I will love it, possibly as
much as any Journey in my collection.

sounds great to me. Thanks for posting it. I dig the interaction between Neal and Arnel, it's good to see. Neal never seemed that into Steve Augeri to me, so it's cool to see that interaction between band members.

Note to Neal- No need to talk about Frontiers and Escape. Stand on the current band, not the past. That was then, this is now and now sounds great. "Then" was great too, but there's no need to promote the old stuff.

She's a Mystery sounds excellent. Love the acoustic guitar and was surprised to see that was Cain and not Neal playing. Cool.

I agree. Looking at the world charts that stuff is still selling, no need to promote it. If Neal could do radio spots with out whining about the past, basically say the same thing he is saying right here, it would be great.

The other thing I tried to put in, but the forum is wonky, is that Neal always says something dumb like "This is the youngest sounding record we've ever done" or whatever. While that's a good idea to promote the new album, it's a backhanded swipe at the old stuff which is kind of lame. He tends to make those kinds of grandiose statements each time an album is new. Not necessary. If he would've said "Eclipse is a young-sounding record" or something, that'd be cool, but to say it the way he did is kind of taking a dig at his older stuff. Meh.... who am I? It was just an opinion.

Having said that stuff, the new album sounds like a great step forward for the band. It'd be really cool to see it pay off bigtime for them as you can tell it's a big sounding record. I think if it had a great label behind it, it would do well. Of course, if there was a big label behind it, it wouldn't sound like it does, so it's kind of a Catch 22 there.

Wait, what was I sayin?

[steveo777]

Still waiting to hear that one clip or sample that knocks my socks off, something akin to After I fall from WET's album. Glad to see no signs of ballads so far (That's a good thing) The abundance of hooks that Neal is talking about; what am I missing there?

Looks like this album can't be judged until all the cards are on the table.

I disagree with one thing. It CAN be judged now. We've heard numerous clips, different clips. Even official clips^^^^^. Not a hook, or catchy music to be found. You figure they'd want to release a catchy clip to snag the fans...the only conclusion is there is none. People want to like this album...and I'm not saying they don't, or won't like it....but I don't think it'll be an album to love. Andrew has to gush about it. He runs a website that reviews releases. And he wasn't exactly in good graces with the band for awhile...do the math.

I'm glad the band is doing what they want....I just don't think that is a good decision. When the dust clears - it will be judged a failure.

Whether its a commercial success or failure matters not to me. They can produce an absolute bomb (this album will be far from that), but heh, they're Journey
and will continue to successfully tour for a few years into the future. As long as I enjoy what they turn out, that's all that matters to me. I respect your opinion though...they're your ears....maybe a bit tin filled, but they're your ears.

[Don]

Neal has the enthusiasm in the video but Jon seems like a talking head. I don't feel his heart is into what he is saying. Arnel actually sounds more wimpy than Perry or even Augeri when he speaks. Maybe it's the language thing but I doubt it, I think he is being the typically humble Asian, which is great if he were a member of Air Supply but he is representing a rock band here. Where's the confidence, like Schon is exuding? Best to let him just sing. A lot of bands have one guy who speaks for the group. For Journey, I used to think that guy was Jon but maybe it's time to just let him script stuff and let Neal present it (and edit out anything he adds that might be asinine).

[S2M]

Honestly, Don, it is not even in the same hemisphere as 'Forevermore'. That album gets a 10 from me, considering the landscape of melodic rock today. Coverdale & co. did it correctly.

This Journey album seems more akin to how Def Lep's Slang was received - but without the actual quality.

[brywool]

Neal has the enthusiasm in the video but Jon seems like a talking head. I don't feel his heart is into what he is saying. Arnel actually sounds more wimpy than Perry or even Augeri when he speaks. Maybe it's the language thing but I doubt it, I think he is being the typically humble Asian, which is great if he were a member of Air Supply but he is representing a rock band here. Where's the confidence, like Schon is exuding? Best to let him just sing. A lot of bands have one guy who speaks for the group. For Journey, I used to think that guy was Jon but maybe it's time to just let him script stuff and let Neal present it (and edit out anything he adds that might be asinine).

Jon doesn't seem like he really gets excited much at all. Not just these days but ever. He's just one of those guys that doesn't emote excitement. Watching him play live, he rarely smiles or looks happy. I don't think that's the case, I just think that he's one of those types. Neal, on the other hand, and definitely Pineda, seem to exude excitement, even though Arnel's speaking voice is pretty small.

Personally, I dig Arnel's humbleness. It could be a cultural thing, but it's refreshing to see such a conservative guy with such a kick a$$ singing voice. Where he places his tone when he speaks is so much different than where he places it when he sings. Also, as the newest guy, if he came out with a ton of Bravado, the Anti-Arnelians would be saying "Gee, he's the new guy. What did he ever do?". At which point, I would type "Here's a list....."

[JourneyHard]

I wonder if they filmed the making of Eclipse and if at some later date they release it on DVD. "The Making of Eclipse" would be cool to watch. I want to see them fighting over changes to songs and stuff. Come on, Journey. You gotta release that!

[Don]

Neal has the enthusiasm in the video but Jon seems like a talking head. I don't feel his heart is into what he is saying. Arnel actually sounds more wimpy than Perry or even Augeri when he speaks. Maybe it's the language thing but I doubt it, I think he is being the typically humble Asian, which is great if he were a member of Air Supply but he is representing a rock band here. Where's the confidence, like Schon is exuding? Best to let him just sing. A lot of bands have one guy who speaks for the group. For Journey, I used to think that guy was Jon but maybe it's time to just let him script stuff and let Neal present it (and edit out anything he adds that might be asinine).

Jon doesn't seem like he really gets excited much at all. Not just these days but ever. He's just one of those guys that doesn't emote excitement. Watching him play live, he rarely smiles or looks happy. I don't think that's the case, I just think that he's one of those types. Neal, on the other hand, and definitely Pineda, seem to exude excitement, even though Arnel's speaking voice is pretty small.

Personally, I dig Arnel's humbleness. It could be a cultural thing, but it's refreshing to see such a conservative guy with such a kick a$$ singing voice. Where he places his tone when he speaks is so much different than where he places it when he sings. Also, as the newest guy, if he came out with a ton of Bravado, the Anti-Arnelians would be saying "Gee, he's the new guy. What did he ever do?". At which point, I would type "Here's a list....."

Maybe Arnel willl pick up some of Kelly's personality on this tour. Hansen is great in interviews, you feel as if he has been with the band forever (well, for six years at least).

[Eric]

Honestly, Don, it is not even in the same hemisphere as 'Forevermore'. That album gets a 10 from me, considering the landscape of melodic rock today. Coverdale & co. did it correctly.

You're kidding...right?

[steveo777]

Neal has the enthusiasm in the video but Jon seems like a talking head. I don't feel his heart is into what he is saying. Arnel actually sounds more wimpy than Perry or even Augeri when he speaks. Maybe it's the language thing but I doubt it, I think he is being the typically humble Asian, which is great if he were a member of Air Supply but he is representing a rock band here. Where's the confidence, like Schon is exuding? Best to let him just sing. A lot of bands have one guy who speaks for the group. For Journey, I used to think that guy was Jon but maybe it's time to just let him script stuff and let Neal present it (and edit out anything he adds that might be asinine).

Jon doesn't seem like he really gets excited much at all. Not just these days but ever. He's just one of those guys that doesn't emote excitement. Watching him play live, he rarely smiles or looks happy. I don't think that's the case, I just think that he's one of those types. Neal, on the other hand, and definitely Pineda, seem to exude excitement, even though Arnel's speaking voice is pretty small.

Personally, I dig Arnel's humbleness. It could be a cultural thing, but it's refreshing to see such a conservative guy with such a kick a$$ singing voice. Where he places his tone when he speaks is so much different than where he places it when he sings. Also, as the newest guy, if he came out with a ton of Bravado, the Anti-Arnelians would be saying "Gee, he's the new guy. What did he ever do?". At which point, I would type "Here's a list....."

Maybe Arnel willl pick up some of Kelly's personality on this tour. Hansen is great in interviews, you feel as if he has been with the band forever (well, for six years at least).

All I care about Arnel doing is getting up and doing his job properly.

[S2M]

Honestly, Don, it is not even in the same hemisphere as 'Forevermore'. That album gets a 10 from me, considering the landscape of melodic rock today. Coverdale & co. did it correctly.

You're kidding...right?

What's the problem?

[Don]

Neal has the enthusiasm in the video but Jon seems like a talking head. I don't feel his heart is into what he is saying. Arnel actually sounds more wimpy than Perry or even Augeri when he speaks. Maybe it's the language thing but I doubt it, I think he is being the typically humble Asian, which is great if he were a member of Air Supply but he is representing a rock band here. Where's the confidence, like Schon is exuding? Best to let him just sing. A lot of bands have one guy who speaks for the group. For Journey, I used to think that guy was Jon but maybe it's time to just let him script stuff and let Neal present it (and edit out anything he adds that might be asinine).

Jon doesn't seem like he really gets excited much at all. Not just these days but ever. He's just one of those guys that doesn't emote excitement. Watching him play live, he rarely smiles or looks happy. I don't think that's the case, I just think that he's one of those types. Neal, on the other hand, and definitely Pineda, seem to exude excitement, even though Arnel's speaking voice is pretty small.

Personally, I dig Arnel's humbleness. It could be a cultural thing, but it's refreshing to see such a conservative guy with such a kick a$$ singing voice. Where he places his tone when he speaks is so much different than where he places it when he sings. Also, as the newest guy, if he came out with a ton of Bravado, the Anti-Arnelians would be saying "Gee, he's the new guy. What did he ever do?". At which point, I would type "Here's a list....."

Maybe Arnel willl pick up some of Kelly's personality on this tour. Hansen is great in interviews, you feel as if he has been with the band forever (well, for six years at least).

All I care about Arnel doing is getting up and doing his job properly.

Foreigner is STILL the better known/popular band over there, to rock fans at least. Promoting Journey properly is just as much Arnel's job as singing is, to show that the band is more than just a quiz question related to Glee.

[steveo777]

Neal has the enthusiasm in the video but Jon seems like a talking head. I don't feel his heart is into what he is saying. Arnel actually sounds more wimpy than Perry or even Augeri when he speaks. Maybe it's the language thing but I doubt it, I think he is being the typically humble Asian, which is great if he were a member of Air Supply but he is representing a rock band here. Where's the confidence, like Schon is exuding? Best to let him just sing. A lot of bands have one guy who speaks for the group. For Journey, I used to think that guy was Jon but maybe it's time to just let him script stuff and let Neal present it (and edit out anything he adds that might be asinine).

Jon doesn't seem like he really gets excited much at all. Not just these days but ever. He's just one of those guys that doesn't emote excitement. Watching him play live, he rarely smiles or looks happy. I don't think that's the case, I just think that he's one of those types. Neal, on the other hand, and definitely Pineda, seem to exude excitement, even though Arnel's speaking voice is pretty small.

Personally, I dig Arnel's humbleness. It could be a cultural thing, but it's refreshing to see such a conservative guy with such a kick a$$ singing voice. Where he places his tone when he speaks is so much different than where he places it when he sings. Also, as the newest guy, if he came out with a ton of Bravado, the Anti-Arnelians would be saying "Gee, he's the new guy. What did he ever do?". At which point, I would type "Here's a list....."

Maybe Arnel willl pick up some of Kelly's personality on this tour. Hansen is great in interviews, you feel as if he has been with the band forever (well, for six years at least).

All I care about Arnel doing is getting up and doing his job properly.

Foreigner is STILL the better known/popular band over there, to rock fans at least. Promoting Journey properly is just as much Arnel's job as singing is, to show that the band is more than just a quiz question related to Glee.

I see your point. He is the front man. Maybe he purposely tries to appear humble and quiet to avoid appearing to have a big ego he feels
fans won't feel he's earned the right to have yet. I wonder if he's different behind the scenes? My experience with Filipinos is that they are
mostly very nice people.....until you piss them off, then look out. My wife will fucking start throwing things when provoked!

[FamilyMan]

You guys will fall off your chair when you hear how "She's a Mystery" ends. Beyond cool.

[Don]

You guys will fall off your chair when you hear how "She's a Mystery" ends. Beyond cool.

Hmm, another song that can't make it onto radio with out all the guitar work getting edited out.

[Eric]

Honestly, Don, it is not even in the same hemisphere as 'Forevermore'. That album gets a 10 from me, considering the landscape of melodic rock today. Coverdale & co. did it correctly.

You're kidding...right?

What's the problem?

Just thought Forevermore was pretty bad...not the band as much as Coverdale.

[steveo777]

You guys will fall off your chair when you hear how "She's a Mystery" ends. Beyond cool.

So, you are another insider who has listened to the whole album?
That's a few now. Surprised there are not some leaks by now.

[S2M]

Well...I'm not going to change your mind, seeing I don't like Eclipse...to each his own. What exactly is it about David that ruins it?

[Don]

You guys will fall off your chair when you hear how "She's a Mystery" ends. Beyond cool.

Are you doing another news piece on them?

[Eric]

Well...I'm not going to change your mind, seeing I don't like Eclipse...to each his own. What exactly is it about David that ruins it?

His voice - to me - has gotten comically bad. I want to support new melodicrock music badly too.

[brywool]

You guys will fall off your chair when you hear how "She's a Mystery" ends. Beyond cool.

Hmm, another song that can't make it onto radio with out all the guitar work getting edited out.

Yay! Who gives a damn about radio? They won't play it anyway. Journey is not a youth-oriented band (though I think that's wrong. Lots of kids go to those shows) and radio is a wasteland.