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Is it me or does any one else fell the say way. While I think that AP is a great singer, I just can not stand to listen to him talk. I have watched the vid on the front page and I just turn shake my head at his english. And it is not everyone that can't speak english good, that I feel this way about. It is just that here he is singing (rather good too) in one of my favorite bands, but when he stops singing, it is like the bottom falls out of the illusion.
The new cd sounds very promising, just from what little I have heard. But I have shy'd away from seeing them, because I think (IMO) that his lack of English, keeps him from being a strong lead singer for the band.

Abitaman wrote:Is it me or does any one else fell the say way. While I think that AP is a great singer, I just can not stand to listen to him talk. I have watched the vid on the front page and I just turn shake my head at his english. And it is not everyone that can't speak english good, that I feel this way about. It is just that here he is singing (rather good too) in one of my favorite bands, but when he stops singing, it is like the bottom falls out of the illusion.
The new cd sounds very promising, just from what little I have heard. But I have shy'd away from seeing them, because I think (IMO) that his lack of English, keeps him from being a strong lead singer for the band.

Is your post a joke or what? An illiterate critiquing a guy from another country over his command of the English language, brilliant.

Abitaman wrote:And it is not everyone that can't speak english good, that I feel this way about.

Easy for you to say...

Don wrote:

Abitaman wrote:Is it me or does any one else fell the say way. While I think that AP is a great singer, I just can not stand to listen to him talk. I have watched the vid on the front page and I just turn shake my head at his english. And it is not everyone that can't speak english good, that I feel this way about. It is just that here he is singing (rather good too) in one of my favorite bands, but when he stops singing, it is like the bottom falls out of the illusion.
The new cd sounds very promising, just from what little I have heard. But I have shy'd away from seeing them, because I think (IMO) that his lack of English, keeps him from being a strong lead singer for the band.

Is your post a joke or what? An illiterate critiquing a guy from another country over his command of the English language, brilliant.

It is me having fun......Got a problem with that.
Been at work for 18 hours, I'm bored out of my mind, I have had way too many 5 hour energy drinks...and I'm trying to stay awake till the B Braun person gets here.

Abitaman wrote:

Don wrote:

Abitaman wrote:Is it me or does any one else fell the say way. While I think that AP is a great singer, I just can not stand to listen to him talk. I have watched the vid on the front page and I just turn shake my head at his english. And it is not everyone that can't speak english good, that I feel this way about. It is just that here he is singing (rather good too) in one of my favorite bands, but when he stops singing, it is like the bottom falls out of the illusion.
The new cd sounds very promising, just from what little I have heard. But I have shy'd away from seeing them, because I think (IMO) that his lack of English, keeps him from being a strong lead singer for the band.

Is your post a joke or what? An illiterate critiquing a guy from another country over his command of the English language, brilliant.

It is me having fun......Got a problem with that.

That's why I asked if it was a joke. Are you going to hit me with your keyboard now?

Don wrote:

Abitaman wrote:

Don wrote:

Abitaman wrote:Is it me or does any one else fell the say way. While I think that AP is a great singer, I just can not stand to listen to him talk. I have watched the vid on the front page and I just turn shake my head at his english. And it is not everyone that can't speak english good, that I feel this way about. It is just that here he is singing (rather good too) in one of my favorite bands, but when he stops singing, it is like the bottom falls out of the illusion.
The new cd sounds very promising, just from what little I have heard. But I have shy'd away from seeing them, because I think (IMO) that his lack of English, keeps him from being a strong lead singer for the band.

Is your post a joke or what? An illiterate critiquing a guy from another country over his command of the English language, brilliant.

It is me having fun......Got a problem with that.

That's why I asked if it was a joke. Are you going to hit me with your keyboard now?

No, but you got any coffee.

Abitaman wrote:It is me having fun......Got a problem with that.

Good one?

Just release this album already so people can discuss actual stuff.

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Just release this album already so people can discuss actual stuff.

AMEN!!!

Listened to City Of Hope several times today, good, very good.

The Candy With The Little Hole (lifesavers)

You have to love little kids.



The children began to identify the flavors by their color:

Red.....................Cherry
Yellow...............Lemon
Green.................Lime
Orange ..............Orange

Finally the teacher gave them all HONEY lifesavers.
None of the children could identify the taste.

The teacher said, "I will give you all a clue. It's what your
Mother may sometimes call your father."

One little girl looked up in horror, spit her lifesaver out and
yelled, "Oh my God! They're ass-holes!"

The teacher had to leave the room.

Accents can be an odd thing.

At least Arnel's is a genuine accent!

When watching the vid for Oh Sherrie, I couldn't help wonder, "When did Steve Perry become British?" (Watch the vid!)

Then there's a vid on YouTube circa 1978 where Neal Schon is talking like John Leguizamo! I remember thinking, "Yyyyeah! You were in Santana, but you're not Latino dude!"

Just sayin!

Hippie wrote:Accents can be an odd thing.

At least Arnel's is a genuine accent!

When watching the vid for Oh Sherrie, I couldn't help wonder, "When did Steve Perry become British?" (Watch the vid!)

Then there's a vid on YouTube circa 1978 where Neal Schon is talking like John Leguizamo! I remember thinking, "Yyyyeah! You were in Santana, but you're not Latino dude!"

Just sayin!

Maybe they were just stoned.

I like Arnel, so his accent while talking doesn't bother me. It's part of who he is. It's not an illusion for me.

Jana wrote:I like Arnel, so his accent while talking doesn't bother me. It's part of who he is. It's not an illusion for me.

Agreed.

Abitaman, since it is an illusion to you , you can alter it. The man (Arnel) is what he is. If you don't like it, that is certainly your choice. This notion that a lead singer of a band has to be this or has to be able to do X,Y, & Z, is just that, a notion. A "thought" who's criteria may be different to many different people. To me the guy has got a tremendous voice, has improved his stage presence, and we will now find out what kind of writer he might be. It works for me and I was very skeptical when he was first announced as the singer

If the speaking or singing accent is a deal breaker for you, that is your decision. No need to look for others to validate it.

Like the Life Savers joke though.

I have a Texas drawl you could store in a syrup bottle ...

So the fuck what?

People are who they are ... and vive la difference!

SF-Dano wrote:

Jana wrote:I like Arnel, so his accent while talking doesn't bother me. It's part of who he is. It's not an illusion for me.

Agreed.

Abitaman, since it is an illusion to you , you can alter it. The man (Arnel) is what he is. If you don't like it, that is certainly your choice. This notion that a lead singer of a band has to be this or has to be able to do X,Y, & Z, is just that, a notion. A "thought" who's criteria may be different to many different people. To me the guy has got a tremendous voice, has improved his stage presence, and we will now find out what kind of writer he might be. It works for me and I was very skeptical when he was first announced as the singer

If the speaking or singing accent is a deal breaker for you, that is your decision. No need to look for others to validate it.

Like the Life Savers joke though.

Not trying to validate what I was getting at, just asking.
And as I stated, I like his sangin voice.
I like what I have heard from the new cd too.
But for the most part I joking around, wanting peoples thoughts on the matter.
I do have issues with it at times, AT TIMES PEOPLE, but his singing voice is fine.

Abitaman wrote:

SF-Dano wrote:

Jana wrote:I like Arnel, so his accent while talking doesn't bother me. It's part of who he is. It's not an illusion for me.

Agreed.

Abitaman, since it is an illusion to you , you can alter it. The man (Arnel) is what he is. If you don't like it, that is certainly your choice. This notion that a lead singer of a band has to be this or has to be able to do X,Y, & Z, is just that, a notion. A "thought" who's criteria may be different to many different people. To me the guy has got a tremendous voice, has improved his stage presence, and we will now find out what kind of writer he might be. It works for me and I was very skeptical when he was first announced as the singer

If the speaking or singing accent is a deal breaker for you, that is your decision. No need to look for others to validate it.

Like the Life Savers joke though.

Not trying to validate what I was getting at, just asking.
And as I stated, I like his sangin voice.
I like what I have heard from the new cd too.
But for the most part I joking around, wanting peoples thoughts on the matter.
I do have issues with it at times, AT TIMES PEOPLE, but his singing voice is fine.

Arnel is a very humble, modest man, which is magnified by the humility of his culture. Personally, I love that. Nothing is better than when someone who, in almost every way, is a completely average and unremarkable human possesses an incredible, far above average talent. Come to think of it, Perry was a bit like that too, but not in the humility department. Look at Perry. A lanky, average looking, nerdy guy who sang better than anyone on the planet. But there was nothing about Perry other than his voice that what remotely like a rock star, other than his great hair. Now look at Arnel. Short, meak, gracious, not especially articulate, singing lead for one of America's greatest classic rock acts ever, singing the unsingable songs of one the greatest vocalists of all time and doing an amazing job at it, while still a meak and mild guy from Manila, who now has enough money to provide for his family--and run a foundation to help others. I don't know how a guy like this can bother anyone. Personally, I'm in awe of him. Arnel is a real hero in my book, and I love what he brings to Journey.

Majestic wrote:

Abitaman wrote:

SF-Dano wrote:

Jana wrote:I like Arnel, so his accent while talking doesn't bother me. It's part of who he is. It's not an illusion for me.

Agreed.

Abitaman, since it is an illusion to you , you can alter it. The man (Arnel) is what he is. If you don't like it, that is certainly your choice. This notion that a lead singer of a band has to be this or has to be able to do X,Y, & Z, is just that, a notion. A "thought" who's criteria may be different to many different people. To me the guy has got a tremendous voice, has improved his stage presence, and we will now find out what kind of writer he might be. It works for me and I was very skeptical when he was first announced as the singer

If the speaking or singing accent is a deal breaker for you, that is your decision. No need to look for others to validate it.

Like the Life Savers joke though.

Not trying to validate what I was getting at, just asking.
And as I stated, I like his sangin voice.
I like what I have heard from the new cd too.
But for the most part I joking around, wanting peoples thoughts on the matter.
I do have issues with it at times, AT TIMES PEOPLE, but his singing voice is fine.

Arnel is a very humble, modest man, which is magnified by the humility of his culture. Personally, I love that. Nothing is better than when someone who, in almost every way, is a completely average and unremarkable human possesses an incredible, far above average talent. Come to think of it, Perry was a bit like that too, but not in the humility department. Look at Perry. A lanky, average looking, nerdy guy who sang better than anyone on the planet. But there was nothing about Perry other than his voice that what remotely like a rock star, other than his great hair. Now look at Arnel. Short, meak, gracious, not especially articulate, singing lead for one of America's greatest classic rock acts ever, singing the unsingable songs of one the greatest vocalists of all time and doing an amazing job at it, while still a meak and mild guy from Manila, who now has enough money to provide for his family--and run a foundation to help others. I don't know how a guy like this can bother anyone. Personally, I'm in awe of him. Arnel is a real hero in my book, and I love what he brings to Journey.

He doesn't bother me....I guess to put more direct, I have trouble understanding what he says. I have to go back and listen again to what was said, some times more than twice. That is my problem. It is not his personality, he seems like a very nice person, and I would not mind meeting him. He is a great singer, and I like to listen to him sing, and I am actually looking forward to the new cd. I was not really thrilled before or after the last cd, it wasn't bad, it like the re-records better than I did the regular cd.
So my question (and I was kidding around for the most part) does anyone else have problem understanding him? Not does anyone have a problem with is appearance, his singing, writing, or attitude. I am a born and raised southern boy (and yes some may have trouble understanding me, since I lived in Cajun country and now live in the redneck hillbilly area of south east TN), but I have trouble understanding him, and was wondering if anyone else did.

He is singing is sounding incredible from what I've heard. I have no concerns with the way he talks as long as he doesn't start rambling on about a trip to the Playboy mansion like Kevin Cronin or talking two songs worth of time during a 45 minute set as Jack Blades did when Night Ranger opened for Journey two years ago.

NoMoreTails wrote:He is singing is sounding incredible from what I've heard. I have no concerns with the way he talks as long as he doesn't start rambling on about a trip to the Playboy mansion like Kevin Cronin or talking two songs worth of time during a 45 minute set as Jack Blades did when Night Ranger opened for Journey two years ago.

Jack Blades was painful, especially with that one lonnnnnggggggg story.

Jana wrote:

NoMoreTails wrote:He is singing is sounding incredible from what I've heard. I have no concerns with the way he talks as long as he doesn't start rambling on about a trip to the Playboy mansion like Kevin Cronin or talking two songs worth of time during a 45 minute set as Jack Blades did when Night Ranger opened for Journey two years ago.

Jack Blades was painful, especially with that one lonnnnnggggggg story.

And the frustration was compounded by the cover songs instead of performing more NR material. I wish they weren't on the upcoming tour and really don't see that they would draw additional fans.