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What a beautiful, epic masterpiece this song is. Eclipse is a great album, but this one is the show stopper. My new favorite Journey song, bar none.

Tantra
(Schon, Cain)

One light shining bright,
Is made from many colors,
Just like,
every ocean’s made,
from many drops of rain,
One soul takes many shapes,
To make up the human race,
One fire, many lives,
Share the same sun, every day,
Old beliefs let us down,
Many roads lead to heaven,
One love, many faiths all share,
A world in search of grace,
Across the universe,
The same force that moves the earth’s in my heart,
Makes me whole,
Wash my doubt and fear away…
---
In a big deep blue sky,
On a beautiful day,
Where the moment is now,
There’s perfection in every way,
Feeling flow through me,
Tantra my eyes can see,
Where we all belong,
Tantra watch over me,
Like a bird on a wing,
Like the eye of a storm,
In a circle of life,
When every child’s born,
I get caught up in time,
Lose all reality,
A prisoner of my own design,
When my freedom is where I choose to be,
Leave me some kind of sign,
From the heavens above,
I hear One voice,
I am the love, I choose to love
---
Feeling flow through me,
Tantra my eyes can see,
Where we all belong,
Tantra watch over me,
Like roses in bloom,
Like mountains of majesty,
Like an orange harvest moon,
Wanders for all to see
---
Leave me some kind of sign,
From the heavens above,
I hear One voice,
I am the love, I choose to love
---
Feeling flow through me,
Tantra my eyes can see,
Where we all belong,
Tantra watch over me
---
Feeling flow through me,
Tantra watch over me,
---
Across the universe,
The same force that moves the earth’s in my heart,
Wash my doubt and fear away…

Translated from the Tagalog by me.

AMEN!!!

In fact, all songs are great on their own. I can hear such diversity of moods, I can hear different eras into one, one sounded just plain AOR, Journeyish, orchestration..etc. And I'm also curious, how Neal and Co. came up with this idea, to me it's musically genius

Nicely done!

JSS Rocks! wrote:Nicely done!

Wow, I like your way better! I don't have the lyrics, so I had to listen and transcribe, which was very easy to do.

I'm loving this song more and more every time I hear it. Really beautiful highlight on the album. Right up there with 'Chain of Love' and 'Resonate' IMO.

Borderline Schlock. Thank god the rest of the record (minus a few songs) manages to overcome this high theater piece in maintaining the overall premise of being a competent rock album.

Don wrote:Borderline Schlock. Thank god the rest of the record (minus a few songs) manages to overcome this high theater piece in maintaining the overall premise of being a competent rock album.

All you have to do is right click and delete it before you burn your cd.

steveo777 wrote:

Don wrote:Borderline Schlock. Thank god the rest of the record (minus a few songs) manages to overcome this high theater piece in maintaining the overall premise of being a competent rock album.

All you have to do is right click and delete it before you burn your cd.

You see that little program feature on your Blu-ray player? Already off the list buddy, and it wasn't alone either.

Worst song on the album, easily, in my opinion.

conversationpc wrote:Worst song on the album, easily, in my opinion.

The same boat doesn't float everyone. I love the song. It's in my top 4.

steveo777 wrote:

conversationpc wrote:Worst song on the album, easily, in my opinion.

The same boat doesn't float everyone. I love the song. It's in my top 4.

That's because you suck.

conversationpc wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

conversationpc wrote:Worst song on the album, easily, in my opinion.

The same boat doesn't float everyone. I love the song. It's in my top 4.

That's because you suck.

I hit replay on that song. Love it.

Brilliant song...easily one of Journey`s best post Perry songs.

In my opinion, Tantra was the sleeper for me that hit me when I least expected it. I just think it packs a big punch and is practically the closest thing on the whole album when following the Journey ballad guideline. I think it's very nicely written and obviously very well sung. Just a good change-up that gives a nice feel to the entire CD.

I'll have to give Tantra a few more listens, but so far, my least favorite track.

steveo777 wrote:

conversationpc wrote:Worst song on the album, easily, in my opinion.

The same boat doesn't float everyone. I love the song. It's in my top 4.

Not crazy about the Disney sounding intro/outro but damn !! The rest of the song is probably Arnels best vocal work yet. Parts of the verse have almost the same feel as something to hide but for just a moment. Really dont get the twinkle toes intro/outro. The middle section though is just bad ass IMHO.

Reminds me of something on TBF...but in moderation, that's not such a bad thing.

YoungJRNY wrote:In my opinion, Tantra was the sleeper for me that hit me when I least expected it. I just think it packs a big punch and is practically the closest thing on the whole album when following the Journey ballad guideline. I think it's very nicely written and obviously very well sung. Just a good change-up that gives a nice feel to the entire CD.

The style reminds me of a jon secada song.

jrnyjetster wrote:I'll have to give Tantra a few more listens, but so far, my least favorite track.

Your avatar, this is the way I wanted the Journey cover to be. The real cover artwork is actually more muted than that, less orange and not as vibrant in colors. Your avatar with the brilliant almost glow of the orange contrasting the darkness on the rest of the cover on the album but in a plastic case would have been perfect

Don wrote:Borderline Schlock. Thank god the rest of the record (minus a few songs) manages to overcome this high theater piece in maintaining the overall premise of being a competent rock album.

+1. Tantra and "To Who It May Concern" are easily my two least favorite tunes.

I know where they were wanting to go with Tantra but they never got there. What could have been this version of Journey's own "Wheel In The Sky" instead comes off as Broadway-style Schlock. It's like a mix of a wedding song, Broadway and a National Anthem. Overly dramatic, way too slow. Arnel's singing is way too emotional and he drastically needs to hold back on the vibrato.

My wife walked into my office when this was playing and said "Oh my God, what the HELL is that!?" I told her it was the new Journey and she replied, "Ouch!"
I couldn't argue.

I edited the disney sounding shit out of the song. Now it is one of my favorites. I guess putting a link could get me in trouble eh ? I could upload it. I know damn well that 99.9% of the people the frequent here bought it. I edited it and listened to the song before and after it. Think it makes it fit in so much better.

Liquid_Drummer wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

conversationpc wrote:Worst song on the album, easily, in my opinion.

The same boat doesn't float everyone. I love the song. It's in my top 4.

Not crazy about the Disney sounding intro/outro but damn !! The rest of the song is probably Arnels best vocal work yet. Parts of the verse have almost the same feel as something to hide but for just a moment. Really dont get the twinkle toes intro/outro. The middle section though is just bad ass IMHO.

I think they should edit the intro and outro and release it to AC stations.

conversationpc wrote:Worst song on the album, easily, in my opinion.

I feel the same, but i don't usually like ballads to begin with

They should have had this among the singles, since it could happen on AC radio, and AC radio is about the only format for new music that is happening for Journey these days. Radio is what singles are about, right? I know some don't like this song, but I think it's so good it could even get a grammy nomination if any of the right people learn it exists. It's one of the best ballads Journey has ever done in terms of musicianship, songmanship, and artistry. That being said, I'm glad this album isn't full of these kind of songs....Eclipse rocks, and I'm loving it.

KISSNTIME wrote:

Don wrote:Borderline Schlock. Thank god the rest of the record (minus a few songs) manages to overcome this high theater piece in maintaining the overall premise of being a competent rock album.

+1. Tantra and "To Who It May Concern" are easily my two least favorite tunes.

I know where they were wanting to go with Tantra but they never got there. What could have been this version of Journey's own "Wheel In The Sky" instead comes off as Broadway-style Schlock. It's like a mix of a wedding song, Broadway and a National Anthem. Overly dramatic, way too slow. Arnel's singing is way too emotional and he drastically needs to hold back on the vibrato.

My wife walked into my office when this was playing and said "Oh my God, what the HELL is that!?" I told her it was the new Journey and she replied, "Ouch!"
I couldn't argue.

Bingo ...too emotional/too much vibrato trying to come up w/soul that
he just caaaaan't quite reach ... could've been beautiful!!

Michigan Girl wrote:

KISSNTIME wrote:

Don wrote:Borderline Schlock. Thank god the rest of the record (minus a few songs) manages to overcome this high theater piece in maintaining the overall premise of being a competent rock album.

+1. Tantra and "To Who It May Concern" are easily my two least favorite tunes.

I know where they were wanting to go with Tantra but they never got there. What could have been this version of Journey's own "Wheel In The Sky" instead comes off as Broadway-style Schlock. It's like a mix of a wedding song, Broadway and a National Anthem. Overly dramatic, way too slow. Arnel's singing is way too emotional and he drastically needs to hold back on the vibrato.

My wife walked into my office when this was playing and said "Oh my God, what the HELL is that!?" I told her it was the new Journey and she replied, "Ouch!"
I couldn't argue.

Bingo ...too emotional/too much vibrato trying to come up w/soul that

he just caaaaan't quite reach ... could've been beautiful!!

Asside from not liking Arnel's performance much, how do you feel about the song? I think, if Perry keeps up with Journey at all, this is the one song on Eclipse he'd be dying to sing. Man, would I love to hear that! This song is right up Perry's alley. I think Arnel sings it great though, and I hear the soul in his voice and think he sells it in a sincere way.

Majestic wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:

KISSNTIME wrote:

Don wrote:Borderline Schlock. Thank god the rest of the record (minus a few songs) manages to overcome this high theater piece in maintaining the overall premise of being a competent rock album.

+1. Tantra and "To Who It May Concern" are easily my two least favorite tunes.

I know where they were wanting to go with Tantra but they never got there. What could have been this version of Journey's own "Wheel In The Sky" instead comes off as Broadway-style Schlock. It's like a mix of a wedding song, Broadway and a National Anthem. Overly dramatic, way too slow. Arnel's singing is way too emotional and he drastically needs to hold back on the vibrato.

My wife walked into my office when this was playing and said "Oh my God, what the HELL is that!?" I told her it was the new Journey and she replied, "Ouch!"
I couldn't argue.

Bingo ...too emotional/too much vibrato trying to come up w/soul that

he just caaaaan't quite reach ... could've been beautiful!!

Asside from not liking Arnel's performance much, how do you feel about the song? I think, if Perry keeps up with Journey at all, this is the one song on Eclipse he'd be dying to sing. Man, would I love to hear that! This song is right up Perry's alley. I think Arnel sings it great though, and I hear the soul in his voice and think he sells it in a sincere way.

There's more to it than just the vox ...I think AP is a great singer and has great vox ...
I don't think he'll ever be one of my favs because he lacks what I like/demand/crave
in my singers ...This LP is not about the vox, ...I'm reviewing
this LP based on the lyrics/musicianship/originality/ the whole unit!!
Don't give a diddly~doo about AP and his ability to fill in, we've been there~done that!
It's already been established that the shoes of the great one will never be filled ...
why do that shit again?!?!

If they really felt the need for at least one high end ballad on Eclipse, they should have went at it full bore and created something epic like "When You Love A woman" with the strings and big accompaniment in the back round. Tantra is trying to be too many things here and to have to 'edit this and that' to make it serviceable instantly disqualifies it as one of the better songs on the album.

Michigan Girl wrote:

Majestic wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:

KISSNTIME wrote:

Don wrote:Borderline Schlock. Thank god the rest of the record (minus a few songs) manages to overcome this high theater piece in maintaining the overall premise of being a competent rock album.

+1. Tantra and "To Who It May Concern" are easily my two least favorite tunes.

I know where they were wanting to go with Tantra but they never got there. What could have been this version of Journey's own "Wheel In The Sky" instead comes off as Broadway-style Schlock. It's like a mix of a wedding song, Broadway and a National Anthem. Overly dramatic, way too slow. Arnel's singing is way too emotional and he drastically needs to hold back on the vibrato.

My wife walked into my office when this was playing and said "Oh my God, what the HELL is that!?" I told her it was the new Journey and she replied, "Ouch!"
I couldn't argue.

Bingo ...too emotional/too much vibrato trying to come up w/soul that

he just caaaaan't quite reach ... could've been beautiful!!

Asside from not liking Arnel's performance much, how do you feel about the song? I think, if Perry keeps up with Journey at all, this is the one song on Eclipse he'd be dying to sing. Man, would I love to hear that! This song is right up Perry's alley. I think Arnel sings it great though, and I hear the soul in his voice and think he sells it in a sincere way.

There's more to it than just the vox ...I think AP is a great singer and has great vox ...
I don't think he'll ever be one of my favs because he lacks what I like/demand/crave
in my singers ...This LP is not about the vox, ...I'm reviewing
this LP based on the lyrics/musicianship/originality/ the whole unit!!
Don't give a diddly~doo about AP and his ability to fill in, we've been there~done that!
It's already been established that the shoes of the great one will never be filled ...
why do that shit again?!?!

I disagree. He's his own voice now, the voice of the direction that Journey is now going.
Reality is that this is not a Perry driven band now and people need to try and sever that
connection, as far as new music is concerned. He has the soul and emotion to deliver their
music but if people don't want to hear it, they won't. I understand, but it is what it is and
I'm happy to have what we do. I think Tantra is a stunning song and I'm not trying to make
a Perry connection on it. AP owns the song.