Live In Manila Remastered?

by **Archetype** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:07 am

Check out Change for The Better and Ask The Lonely

It sounds a lot better than my DVD. I guess it could be my computer speakers, but it's really night and day difference to me.

by **Glenn** » Mon May 23, 2011 11:34 am

Archetype wrote:Check out Change for The Better and Ask The Lonely

It sounds a lot better than my DVD. I guess it could be my computer speakers, but it's really night and day difference to me.

Are these on MP3's?

Besides youtube?

by **ebake02** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:31 pm

Archetype wrote:Check out Change for The Better and Ask The Lonely

It sounds a lot better than my DVD. I guess it could be my computer speakers, but it's really night and day difference to me.

These are 100% better.

by **Archetype** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:53 pm

ebake02 wrote:
Archetype wrote:Check out Change for The Better and Ask The Lonely

It sounds a lot better than my DVD. I guess it could be my computer speakers, but it's really night and day difference to me.

These are 100% better.

Whoever did these definitely did a great job. I'd buy a second copy for this quality.

Website · by **steveo777** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:59 pm

Archetype wrote:
ebake02 wrote:
Archetype wrote:Check out Change for The Better and Ask The Lonely

It sounds a lot better than my DVD. I guess it could be my computer speakers, but it's really night and day difference to me.

These are 100% better.

Whoever did these definitely did a great job. I'd buy a second copy for this quality.

Agreed, but maybe there were masters that really sounded that good, but didn't make it to production.
I don't think anyone is gonna spend money to remaster this, but I could be wrong.

by **Glenn** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:09 pm

Converting them to MP3 now... Will hook up whomever wants them

by **SYNCH** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:38 pm

This is a lot better, interesting whose got this copy

WDILYL is rocking - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFi_zmKZ ... re=related

by **Glenn** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:42 pm

15 songs done...a few more to go

by **Archetype** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:43 pm

JSS Rocks! wrote:15 songs done...a few more to go

This would make a great live album. Journey should have made a 3 disc set for Eclipse with this quality audio of Manila.

Website · by **steveo777** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:51 pm

JSS Rocks! wrote:15 songs done...a few more to go

Glen, remember moi, please.

BTW, so many of us are used to listening to some of the YT crap that get's posted, that we don't really know what AP
sounds like live. The ATL clip is a great example of what he really sounds like live. Very powerful singer!

by **Gideon** » Mon May 23, 2011 1:58 pm

I haven't watched these clips, but before I go to rip them, is everyone sure that the audio has been improved or does it just sound better coming from the computer speakers?

Website · by **steveo777** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:05 pm

Gideon wrote:I haven't watched these clips, but before I go to rip them, is everyone sure that the audio has been improved or does it just sound better coming from the computer speakers?

We'll find out. The only thing I have to go by is the DVD rips that someone sent me after it came out.
I played them in my car and they sounded like shit. Any improvement is welcome.

by **Jana** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:07 pm

JSS Rocks! wrote:15 songs done...a few more to go

How is converting that to MP3 better than the DVD? I'm confused. And if those clips are better posted, here, what was done? I'm not much better than Dan sometimes on this kind of stuff. :wink:

by **Gideon** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:10 pm

Jana wrote:Dan sometimes on this kind of stuff.

First Dan, then Melissa, and now you.
Is porn that addictive? When will this madness cease?! :lol:

by **SYNCH** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:10 pm

Gideon wrote:I haven't watched these clips, but before I go to rip them, is everyone sure that the audio has been improved or does it just sound better coming from the computer speakers?

Hmmn.. thinking back, I vaguely remember seeing 'BoratcoHD' in some YT videos and this was long before. They really sounded crispy at that time, reason for me to be excited of the DVD. Looking at the upload date, it could be the same videos I saw before but probably different user. YT may have changed their audio setup?

Website · by **steveo777** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:18 pm

These might just be straight up sound board recordings.

by **slucero** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:30 pm

Sounds like the board Mix...

by **pf1965** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:41 pm

These sound fantastic! Does sound like the in house soundboard mix! Would like a copy of these! Anyone skillful enough to add this audio mix to dvd?

by **Don** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:49 pm

You people are fooling yourself. These aren't better. No matter how high the bit rate you upload to youtube, it's going to run at 128 to keep the site from having bandwidth issues.

ipod360p, 360p and 480p videos have 96kbit AAC audio with a frequency cut-off around 12~14kHz.

720p, 1080p and original all have 128kbit AAC audio.

Even if these were remastered, what you would be downloading would be crap.

Those video downloader programs might tell you you can grab it at 192 but all they are doing is converting it again and actually degrading it even more.

Just use a DVD audio ripper on your own discs if you want the songs so bad. The quality will be waaay better.

Website · by **steveo777** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:55 pm

Don wrote:You people are fooling yourself. These aren't better. No matter how high the bit rate you upload to youtube, it's going to run at 128.

ipod360p, 360p and 480p videos have 96kbit AAC audio with a frequency cut-off around 12~14kHz.

720p, 1080p and original all have 128kbit AAC audio.

Those video downloader programs might tell you you can grab it at 192 but all they are doing is converting it again and actually degrading it even more.

Just use a DVD audio ripper on your own discs if you want the songs so bad. The quality will be waaay better.

Don, I think what we are noticing is a different audio mix here. This could very well be a sound board recording added to the videos.
They sound cleaner, purer, not doctored, and I notice the sound of the audience being much louder, which was definitely not that way on the DVD.

by **pf1965** » Mon May 23, 2011 2:59 pm

I already ripped the audio from the dvd a while back and although it sounds good this sounds like a totally different mix. I will have to listen to my copy and compare.

by **Don** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:08 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:You people are fooling yourself. These aren't better. No matter how high the bit rate you upload to youtube, it's going to run at 128.

ipod360p, 360p and 480p videos have 96kbit AAC audio with a frequency cut-off around 12~14kHz.

720p, 1080p and original all have 128kbit AAC audio.

Those video downloader programs might tell you you can grab it at 192 but all they are doing is converting it again and actually degrading it even more.

Just use a DVD audio ripper on your own discs if you want the songs so bad. The quality will be waaay better.

Don, I think what we are noticing is a different audio mix here. This could very well be a sound board recording added to the videos.
They sound cleaner, purer, not doctored, and I notice the sound of the audience being much louder, which was definitely not that way on the DVD.

I know what you guys are talking about but why don't you pull out the DVD and have a listen side by side? Now use the settings on your receiver to create a live concert or hall effect. Hit the spacial control also if you have it. Depending on the quality of you're system and what kind of options it has, you'll be duplicating what you hear at the minimum and blowing away what these youtubes sound like at the maximum.

Can't you hear that echo the uploader threw in there? It's creating the illusion that the sound is more dynamic.

Oh well, what ever floats your boat. If you THINK it's better then it will be no matter what.

by **Glenn** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:13 pm

Well I finished so if you want to try it out just PM me your e-mail addy.

If anyone has the actual DVD ripped onto MP3 format and would be willing to share that, I would very much appreciate it!

by **S2M** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:15 pm

JSS Rocks! wrote:Well I finished so if you want to try it out just PM me your e-mail addy.

If anyone has the actual DVD ripped onto MP3 format and would be willing to share that, I would very much appreciate it!

Someone has discovered how to remaster shit? WOW.... :lol:

by **pf1965** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:17 pm

I don't know but Don could be right! Still sounds incredible though!

by **Glenn** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:19 pm

S2M wrote:
JSS Rocks! wrote:Well I finished so if you want to try it out just PM me your e-mail addy.

If anyone has the actual DVD ripped onto MP3 format and would be willing to share that, I would very much appreciate it!

Someone has discovered how to remaster shit? WOW....

Look man, all I did was convert it to MP3 for the hell of it..And send to folks that wanted it. Go change your avatar :lol:

by **Glenn** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:20 pm

But really...I'd love the audio if anyone has it.

by **Don** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:22 pm

pf1965 wrote:I don't know but Don could be right! Still sounds incredible though!

A lot of people have all in one Stereo systems but if you have a good receiver you can tinker like this and listen to it with a totally different sound. People do it with bootleg videos all the time. Re-record the audio with enhancements to clean it up and drop it back onto the video. At home, no professionals needed.

by **Glenn** » Mon May 23, 2011 3:29 pm

Well shit...ok...There is gonna be a drop off in sound on a couple of songs...Wheel and Escape

Shit...Oh well...otherwise sounds pretty good!

by **koberry** » Mon May 23, 2011 10:06 pm

SYNCH wrote:This is a lot better, interesting whose got this copy

WDILYL is rocking - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFi_zmKZ ... re=related

Man, I love this song. There's some awesome Motown sensibilities in this one.

MR

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