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Now that all preorder numbers are out of the way, and hardcore fans have grabbed their iTunes downloads, things have slowed a bit. The record is still on a few iTunes top 10 ROCK download lists but for each country's overall album sales chart, pretty much non-existent. The two markets to watch here will be the UK and Japan. To consider the overseas launch successful, these areas are the ones that matter as they dwarf all the other ones outside the US. Since it just launched today in Britain and on the 27th in Japan , next weekend we'll be able to get a better picture.

There wasn't any promo money. This album had next to zero promotion.

It seems Neal's comment before undertaking this album was that Journey was done selling in big numbers and this album was just about doing what they want. Healthy attitude, in my opinion. And I think given all circumstances, this was probably the one album Neal wanted to include as a part of the overall Journey catalog. To that end, I think Neal can be proud.

Personally, the album doesn't really do much for me, but considering what he was likely reaching for, I think he accomplished it. And for an artist, especially one that already had all the success and accolades, that's what really matters. I think Jonathan desperately wants a Grammy and Neal desperately wanted this type of sound.

I don't think any of the band members, the record company, or management thought this would sell much.

Memorex wrote:It seems Neal's comment before undertaking this album was that Journey was done selling in big numbers and this album was just about doing what they want. Healthy attitude, in my opinion. And I think given all circumstances, this was probably the one album Neal wanted to include as a part of the overall Journey catalog. To that end, I think Neal can be proud.

Personally, the album doesn't really do much for me, but considering what he was likely reaching for, I think he accomplished it. And for an artist, especially one that already had all the success and accolades, that's what really matters. I think Jonathan desperately wants a Grammy and Neal desperately wanted this type of sound.

I don't think any of the band members, the record company, or management thought this would sell much.

I don't think there will be a follow up album like this. Record companies aren't in the busiiness to lose money intentionally. That's what solo albums are for.

Don wrote:

Memorex wrote:It seems Neal's comment before undertaking this album was that Journey was done selling in big numbers and this album was just about doing what they want. Healthy attitude, in my opinion. And I think given all circumstances, this was probably the one album Neal wanted to include as a part of the overall Journey catalog. To that end, I think Neal can be proud.

Personally, the album doesn't really do much for me, but considering what he was likely reaching for, I think he accomplished it. And for an artist, especially one that already had all the success and accolades, that's what really matters. I think Jonathan desperately wants a Grammy and Neal desperately wanted this type of sound.

I don't think any of the band members, the record company, or management thought this would sell much.

I don't think there will be a follow up album like this. Record companies aren't in the busiiness to lose money intentionally. That's what solo albums are for.

I'm not sure why, but I feel like this will be the last studio album for a while. I mean, Journey can pump these types of albums out 3 times a year if asked, but something tells me this is the last big release for some time. I have nothing to back that up, just my gut feeling.

Memorex wrote:

Don wrote:

Memorex wrote:It seems Neal's comment before undertaking this album was that Journey was done selling in big numbers and this album was just about doing what they want. Healthy attitude, in my opinion. And I think given all circumstances, this was probably the one album Neal wanted to include as a part of the overall Journey catalog. To that end, I think Neal can be proud.

Personally, the album doesn't really do much for me, but considering what he was likely reaching for, I think he accomplished it. And for an artist, especially one that already had all the success and accolades, that's what really matters. I think Jonathan desperately wants a Grammy and Neal desperately wanted this type of sound.

I don't think any of the band members, the record company, or management thought this would sell much.

I don't think there will be a follow up album like this. Record companies aren't in the busiiness to lose money intentionally. That's what solo albums are for.

I'm not sure why, but I feel like this will be the last studio album for a while. I mean, Journey can pump these types of albums out 3 times a year if asked, but something tells me this is the last big release for some time. I have nothing to back that up, just my gut feeling.

I disagree that this will be the last. What I feel will happen next is that Journey is going to return to a successful formula,
bring in outside writing talent and release one final album that will get people's attention. Neal got his rock album, so Cain
should get back in the driver's seat, back into the keys and melodies. I don't know how they would market it. Walmart
probably isn't going for strike three.

Memorex wrote:

Don wrote:

Memorex wrote:It seems Neal's comment before undertaking this album was that Journey was done selling in big numbers and this album was just about doing what they want. Healthy attitude, in my opinion. And I think given all circumstances, this was probably the one album Neal wanted to include as a part of the overall Journey catalog. To that end, I think Neal can be proud.

Personally, the album doesn't really do much for me, but considering what he was likely reaching for, I think he accomplished it. And for an artist, especially one that already had all the success and accolades, that's what really matters. I think Jonathan desperately wants a Grammy and Neal desperately wanted this type of sound.

I don't think any of the band members, the record company, or management thought this would sell much.

I don't think there will be a follow up album like this. Record companies aren't in the busiiness to lose money intentionally. That's what solo albums are for.

I'm not sure why, but I feel like this will be the last studio album for a while. I mean, Journey can pump these types of albums out 3 times a year if asked, but something tells me this is the last big release for some time. I have nothing to back that up, just my gut feeling.

I believe, for them to continue on with Wal-Mart as a distributor, the next album has to be a live package. I think Wal-Mart is going to be adamant about that (that's if the partnership even continues beyond this current record).

steveo777 wrote:

Memorex wrote:

Don wrote:

Memorex wrote:It seems Neal's comment before undertaking this album was that Journey was done selling in big numbers and this album was just about doing what they want. Healthy attitude, in my opinion. And I think given all circumstances, this was probably the one album Neal wanted to include as a part of the overall Journey catalog. To that end, I think Neal can be proud.

Personally, the album doesn't really do much for me, but considering what he was likely reaching for, I think he accomplished it. And for an artist, especially one that already had all the success and accolades, that's what really matters. I think Jonathan desperately wants a Grammy and Neal desperately wanted this type of sound.

I don't think any of the band members, the record company, or management thought this would sell much.

I don't think there will be a follow up album like this. Record companies aren't in the busiiness to lose money intentionally. That's what solo albums are for.

I'm not sure why, but I feel like this will be the last studio album for a while. I mean, Journey can pump these types of albums out 3 times a year if asked, but something tells me this is the last big release for some time. I have nothing to back that up, just my gut feeling.

I disagree that this will be the last. What I feel will happen next is that Journey is going to return to a successful formula,
bring in outside writing talent and release one final album that will get people's attention. Neal got his rock album, so Cain
should get back in the driver's seat, back into the keys and melodies. I don't know how they would market it. Walmart
probably isn't going for strike three.

Not saying their last - just last for a while.

They will have to go back to the regular Journey blue print. I like Eclipse but it's obviously not a winner with the majority.

Memorex wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

Memorex wrote:

Don wrote:

Memorex wrote:It seems Neal's comment before undertaking this album was that Journey was done selling in big numbers and this album was just about doing what they want. Healthy attitude, in my opinion. And I think given all circumstances, this was probably the one album Neal wanted to include as a part of the overall Journey catalog. To that end, I think Neal can be proud.

Personally, the album doesn't really do much for me, but considering what he was likely reaching for, I think he accomplished it. And for an artist, especially one that already had all the success and accolades, that's what really matters. I think Jonathan desperately wants a Grammy and Neal desperately wanted this type of sound.

I don't think any of the band members, the record company, or management thought this would sell much.

I don't think there will be a follow up album like this. Record companies aren't in the busiiness to lose money intentionally. That's what solo albums are for.

I'm not sure why, but I feel like this will be the last studio album for a while. I mean, Journey can pump these types of albums out 3 times a year if asked, but something tells me this is the last big release for some time. I have nothing to back that up, just my gut feeling.

I disagree that this will be the last. What I feel will happen next is that Journey is going to return to a successful formula,
bring in outside writing talent and release one final album that will get people's attention. Neal got his rock album, so Cain
should get back in the driver's seat, back into the keys and melodies. I don't know how they would market it. Walmart
probably isn't going for strike three.

Not saying their last - just last for a while.

About 3 years. I think Journey will work for another 5 years or so. That should get Ross and JC their social security checks.

I think that they should release a live album next summer from this summer's tour. Double disc, full concert, plus 2-3 new tracks. Then promote the shit out of it.

What might have helped this album, is if it was a 2-disc set, Europe at least. The second disc should be the Graspop concert remastered. Even in all the distorted downloads we have, this was a great show. The Euros would love having it, and a lot of Americans too.

The sound from that show would sit well with Eclipse.



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Arkansas wrote:What might have helped this album, is if it was a 2-disc set, Europe at least. The second disc should be the Graspop concert remastered. Even in all the distorted downloads we have, this was a great show. The Euros would love having it, and a lot of Americans too.

The sound from that show would sit well with Eclipse.



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Yeah, Graspop rocked pretty good. It was one of their better shows of the year.