John Waite vs Arnel

by **E5C4P3ING** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:01 pm

Had the chance to catch John Waite at the Manship Theatre, in Baton Rouge last Friday. He is extremely talented and the pipes are definitely still strong!

There is no denying the talents of Schon, Cain and Castronovo as well! I would love to see a Bad English reunion before it's too late...

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:24 pm

E5C4P3ING wrote:Had the chance to catch John Waite at the Manship Theatre, in Baton Rouge last Friday. He is extremely talented and the pipes are definitely still strong!

There is no denying the talents of Schon, Cain and Castronovo as well! I would love to see a Bad English reunion before it's too late...

You must love ultra proud gay Euros tawsing about in the wind? Waite reeks of gayness, effeminatism and plain feminism. Schon is NOT proud of his time with that Euro fag/hag. Remember this is the douche who called Open Arms "rubbish."

Yeah, I can't wait to see John sing to me in front of a few dozen fans...My dream show.

Get the fuck outta here.

by **E5C4P3ING** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:36 pm

"Forget Me Not", "Best of What I got", "Rocking Horse", "Ghost in Your Heart"...these were rockin tunes and much more interesting than whats being offered right now!"

As for your insecure manhood... have a look at the Bad English videos the band shot for these songs...they are anything but gay.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:43 pm

E5C4P3ING wrote:As for your insecure manhood... have a look at the Bad English videos the band shot for these songs...they are anything but gay.

You had me til you wrote this ridiculous sentence.

Schon in a pirates outfit, Cain in ruffled sleeves. Yeah dude, they were manly as can be. :roll:

LOL, where do you fags come from?

by **E5C4P3ING** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:58 pm

Question: Do you always resort to profanity and stupidity when you can't think of anything intelligent to respond with?

Answer: Yes.

by **slucero** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:03 pm

Waite vs. Arnel

Voice: Arnel - because he simply was born with better pipes.

Performance: Waite - All those years of fronting bands... successfully...

Style: Waite - All those years of fronting bands....

Songwriting: Waite - Lots of hits from this guy... Arnel has yet to have one...

by **E5C4P3ING** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:16 pm

Voice: Arnel - because he simply was born with better pipes.

Performance: Waite - All those years of fronting bands... successfully...

Style: Waite - All those years of fronting bands....

Songwriting: Waite - Lots of hits from this guy... Arnel has yet to have one...

We agree on 3 out of 4. Especially the take on Performance!

by **pf1965** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:20 pm

Never cared for John Waite personally. Besides He is better known as a solo artist rather than fronting a band.These guys may only have a few years left and theres no sense in stopping the only cash cow that still produces milk.

by **Deb** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:22 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
E5C4P3ING wrote:As for your insecure manhood... have a look at the Bad English videos the band shot for these songs...they are anything but gay.

You had me til you wrote this ridiculous sentence.

Schon in a pirates outfit, Cain in ruffled sleeves. Yeah dude, they were manly as can be.

LOL, where do you fags come from?

Never been a fan of Waite's. Does nothing for me vocally or looks wise. But have to say, Neal is all kinds of hot in that 'Forget Me Not' video, especially in the shots of him playing in the rain in head to toe black leather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qol7z-ku8A

by **artist4perry** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:27 pm

John Waite's career got life breathed into it with Jon and Neal and Bad English. Songwriting Jon. Babys, Jon's writing saved that band too.

Seriously the only hit John Waite had outside of Jonathan's help was "I ain't missing you at all"

John Waite treated Jon, and Neal like crap. He got the big head and has not had a decent hit since.

I am sure he sings fine, but really Arnel has a very good voice.

Are you seriously comparing the two? LOL!

How about this one, Tiny Tim vs Arnel. LOL!

Website · by **steveo777** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:42 pm

This is one of the worst theads ever posted.

by **Andrew** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:47 pm

JW is an absolute vocal legend. Can't compare the two... JW has been around a lot longer. One of a kind. As is Arnel.

by **S2M** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:53 pm

I think JW came in at around 360,503 in the Greatest vocalists of all-time....Arnel was a distant 1,569,207.

Surprisingly, Tiny Tim came in 14th....go figure.

by **Andrew** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:21 pm

S2M wrote:I think JW came in at around 360,503 in the Greatest vocalists of all-time....Arnel was a distant 1,569,207.

Good to see you still trying to be funny. Good job bud! One day it will happen

by **george_g** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:52 pm

John Waite is a rather mediocre singer imho, no pipes , no melody , no strength, just a recognizable voice. His only highlight was in Bad English where he admittedly paired very well songwriting wise with Cain. But the whole style of the band did not fit him , you could see he was kind of uncomfortable while on stage or with the hard rocking look of the late 80s...his solo stuff almost ignorable except from some known hits...

Maybe we must open a thread for Bab English though...

by **Andrew** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:55 pm

george_g wrote:John Waite is a rather mediocre singer imho, no pipes , no melody , no strength, just a recognizable voice...

No melody?? WOW! He's not a powerhouse vocalist and never has been...he's a storyteller....singer/songwriter and for me his voice oozes warmth and melody.

Website · by **steveo777** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:33 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOl2wp__yfc

He looks like one of my first Stink Fingers back in high school! :shock:

Here is a Friga-tized video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjU50ow95aM

by **Abitaman** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:20 pm

The orginal Bad English cd is still one of my favorites.

by **george_g** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:22 pm

Abitaman wrote:The orginal Bad English cd is still one of my favorites.

Both records are amazing, they filled the gap journey left in late 80s, the songwriting chemistry of Cain/waite/schon was perfect

by **Eric** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:00 pm

george_g wrote:
Abitaman wrote:The orginal Bad English cd is still one of my favorites.

Both records are amazing, they filled the gap journey left in late 80s.

I feel that way too.

by **hoagiepete** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:30 am

Hell I liked his work with the Babys. Still have Head First on my playlist.

I can't say he has a "great voice", but it works well. Can't compare the two. Totally different styles.

by **Memorex** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:39 am

You guys are funny. You'll think anything paired with the Journey boys is the best of that person's career. The first Bad English album, while pretty cool and some great spots, has some of the most cheesy lyrics ever written (Put your key inside my door). Gee, cliche' much? The second album did a better job, but still. The highlight of those albums was Neal.

When compared to many John Waite songs, Bad English does not even compare, lyrically, feeling, depth. No one said John was some insanely great vocalist. As Andrew said, he's a storyteller. He doesn't always hit the mark, but that's true about any long-lasting artist.

As far as the way he acted during the Bad English days (and maybe before and after), I really don't know. I'm sure like many lead singers, he can be a total asshole. But again, you can say that about many long-lasting artists.

I just listen to the music - I don't live with these people.

by **Memorex** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:41 am

To compare - not really the same thing. But John Waite is an original artist that has created a body of work for nearly 40 years. The man has poured his creative soul into album after album. Arnel will likely never achieve that.

by **SF-Dano** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:14 am

This thread brings me back. Forgot how much I liked the Babys way back when.

Few old faves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK6YFc8cwcU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIL1GfBVxxg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p2fXR5ptFM

by **brywool** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:25 am

E5C4P3ING wrote:Had the chance to catch John Waite at the Manship Theatre, in Baton Rouge last Friday. He is extremely talented and the pipes are definitely still strong!

There is no denying the talents of Schon, Cain and Castronovo as well! I would love to see a Bad English reunion before it's too late...

I got the feeling that they didn't get along well. Some of the stuff that came out when they broke up was pretty detrimental to Waite.

The Babys were a great band. Bad English was okay. "Head First", "Give Me Your Love", "Isn't it Time", "Jesus are you There" blow the crap out of anything Bad English did except for maybe "Best of What I Got" which was a great tune from them.

by **SF-Dano** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:00 am

I know I am most likely in the minority, but when it comes to Bad English, really enjoyed Backlash alot more than the first CD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8_z6TOZq-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaEx6wU8PJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-RFKNJrIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2LBsHdsGKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=appgDoruae0

by **brywool** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:02 am

Wait always reminded me of Davy Jones on steroids.

by **Behshad** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:06 am

Andrew wrote:
S2M wrote:I think JW came in at around 360,503 in the Greatest vocalists of all-time....Arnel was a distant 1,569,207.

Good to see you still trying to be funny. Good job bud! One day it will happen :)

Dont give him too much of credit or hope! :lol:

It wont happen!

by **george_g** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:13 am

SF-Dano wrote:I know I am most likely in the minority, but when it comes to Bad English, really enjoyed Backlash alot more than the first CD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8_z6TOZq-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaEx6wU8PJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-RFKNJrIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2LBsHdsGKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=appgDoruae0

great tunes!!!

the guitar is more rough in backlash, i think that's the main difference from the first cd

by **ebake02** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:29 am

E5C4P3ING wrote:Had the chance to catch John Waite at the Manship Theatre, in Baton Rouge last Friday. He is extremely talented and the pipes are definitely still strong!

There is no denying the talents of Schon, Cain and Castronovo as well! I would love to see a Bad English reunion before it's too late...

Never gonna happen, not as long as Journey is selling 10,000-20,000 every concert.

MR

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