Rockindeano wrote:Eric wrote:Rockindeano wrote:That fucker would have won a third term rather easily eh? I would love to see term limits ended. Makes no sense whatsoever. It basically tells us, "you are too stupid to decide who you want to vote for," and also, takes competition out of the equation. What is the harm in having a guy run for a third term? Congress has no such rules, why does the presidency have liits. I can tell you one thing- had Clinton been allowed to run, and win a 3rd term, we wouldn't have turned a 300 Bilion dollar surplus into a trillion dollar defecit, 9/11 wouldn't have happened because Clinton would have read the goddamn briefing reports instead of colouring with crayons like that stupid sonofabitch W, and we wouldn't be in Iraq. He would have crushed W by 300 ev's.
Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit.
Oh really? Let's recap.
1- The surplus WAS turned into a defecit, under W. Fact.
2- 9/11 happened under W. Fact.
3- Entered Iraq under Res. 1441, also called a lie under W. Fact.
Glad to see you elaborated real well in your retort, genius.
1 - Deficits don't matter in a country that has a sovereign currency. And a surplus simply means we were being overtaxed. And debt was still there anyway. Debt and deficit are 2 different things. Our National debt was 5.9Trillion when Clinton left, 9.9trillion when W left and is 14trillion now. It wasn't 0 or + when Clinton left office.
2 - Fact, Al Queda grew in strength all during the 90's on Clinton's watch...and attacked us 4 times, including the WTC in '93 and the USS Cole in 2000. Partisan bickering combined with a short transition time after the election fiasco led to dropped communication on both sides I fear. I tip my hat for a smooth transition from W to Obama - both men stepped up so that didn't happen again. Say whatever BS you want, but Pre-911 it would have been very difficult to change the culture of our society based on vague warnings about flying planes into buildings. I can just imagine your rant in August 2000 if W locked down airports based on those warnings. It hasn't happened again with W's terror war strategy.
3 - 17 UN resolutions. Dictator is gone. Iraq is free. We have a permanent base next to Iran. Gaddafi was scared into giving up his WMD program (Thank God with what's going on now). Al Queda was drawn into Iraq and defeated. I'm not arguing Iraq was worth it...that is for vets and history to decide...but I reject it was a lie or nothing good came of it.
4 - Why don't you next argue that Katrina was W's fault and not local leadership and stubborn idiots refusing to leave?