Which member's album is best?

by **Tito** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:29 am

As we all know, Eclipse is Neal's album, Perry's is Raised on Radio, and Cain's is Escape. Which of three member's album do you think is best? I say Cain's Escape. What does everyone else think.

by **Gideon** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:31 am

Eclipse
Escape
ROR

by **george_g** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:37 am

Tito wrote:As we all know, Eclipse is Neal's album, Perry's is Raised on Radio, and Cain's is Escape. Which of three member's album do you think is best? I say Cain's Escape. What does everyone else think.

Why Escape is Cain's?

by **Archetype** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:38 am

Cain's "Piano With A View" is better than those three combined

by **Gideon** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:38 am

george_g wrote:
Tito wrote:As we all know, Eclipse is Neal's album, Perry's is Raised on Radio, and Cain's is Escape. Which of three member's album do you think is best? I say Cain's Escape. What does everyone else think.

Why Escape is Cain's?

It was his first album with the band, his songwriting marked a significant change in the dynamic of the songs, and it was that presence that brought it to #1.

by **Saint John** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:41 am

Escape
Eclipse
3 pounds of my neighbor's dog's shit
The 40 year old vomit that caused the death of Jimi Hendrix
ROR

by **Tito** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:42 am

Gideon wrote:
george_g wrote:
Tito wrote:As we all know, Eclipse is Neal's album, Perry's is Raised on Radio, and Cain's is Escape. Which of three member's album do you think is best? I say Cain's Escape. What does everyone else think.

Why Escape is Cain's?

It was his first album with the band, his songwriting marked a significant change in the dynamic of the songs, and it was that presence that brought it to #1.

I couldn't say it better myself.

by **Michigan Girl** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:43 am

Tito wrote:As we all know, Eclipse is Neal's album, Perry's is Raised on Radio, and Cain's is Escape. Which of three member's album do you think is best? I say Cain's Escape. What does everyone else think.

The only thing more stupid than this question are the idiots who actually answer it!!

by **Gideon** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:43 am

Saint John wrote:Escape
Eclipse
3 pounds of my neighbor's dog's shit
The 40 year old vomit that caused the death of Jimi Hendrix
ROR

Damn dude. :lol:

ROR is no match for either Eclipse or Escape, but Perry's vocals save it from being that bad.

by **Tito** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:43 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Tito wrote:As we all know, Eclipse is Neal's album, Perry's is Raised on Radio, and Cain's is Escape. Which of three member's album do you think is best? I say Cain's Escape. What does everyone else think.

The only thing more stupid than this question are the idiots who actually answer it!!

Does your answer count? :lol:

by **Gideon** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:46 am

MG, this isn't Fan Asylum. If you'd like for us to transform into sycophants and cultists who masturbate routinely to Steve Perry's pictures, all you need do is head down a forum below.

Otherwise, like Don says, it's time for you to lube up. :lol:

by **Saint John** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:57 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Tito wrote:As we all know, Eclipse is Neal's album, Perry's is Raised on Radio, and Cain's is Escape. Which of three member's album do you think is best? I say Cain's Escape. What does everyone else think.

The only thing more stupid than this question are the idiots who actually answer it!!

You know, in all honesty, this was also my initial reaction! But, after I thought about it, the album is such a departure from their sound prior to Jon's arrival, and the album's 3 biggest hits have his formula written all over them. Who's Cryin' Now, Open Arms and DSB all have the keys intro, Jon Cain formulaic pace and tear inducing lyrics. It's really hard to argue that he wasn't the chief architect of this album, especially when you listen to the albums prior to it. But I wouldn't say his influence on it was as much as Schon's with Eclipse or Perry's with ROR. :wink:

by **SF-Dano** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:57 am

First. Then who's album was Frontiers? Arrival? TBF? Generations? Revelation? (All with Friga in the band).

With the three you list:
1 Escape (I would not call it Cain's album - team effort)
2 Eclipse (I would not call it Schon's album - smaller team effort)
3 ROR (Perry's album only because he produced, dictated the musical direction, and for all the other crap that went down)

by **madsplash** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:58 am

Escape and ROR tie.
Eclipse.

For the morons bashing ROR, I heard IBAWY and GCHI on the radio today. Let's see if they're playing anything from Eclipse on the radio in 2036.

Oh, that's right, they're not playing anything from Eclipse on the radio right-fucking now.

ROR is a pop/rock masterpiece. The slickest Journey ever got.

And Neal said he was never playing that "gay ass song" again (GCHI). I wonder if he's still cashing the checks that are coming in when it's played? He won't be cashing checks from anything off of Eclipse for very long, or at all, as far as radio play. :roll:

by **RedWingFan** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:01 am

madsplash wrote:Escape and ROR tie.
Eclipse.

For the morons bashing ROR, I heard IBAWY and GCHI on the radio today. Let's see if they're playing anything from Eclipse on the radio in 2036.

Oh, that's right, they're not playing anything from Eclipse on the radio right-fucking now.

ROR is a pop/rock masterpiece. The slickest Journey ever got.

And Neal said he was never playing that "gay ass song" again (GCHI). I wonder if he's still cashing the checks that are coming in when it's played? He won't be cashing checks from anything off of Eclipse for very long, or at all, as far as radio play.

Well said. Eclipse has already faded into obscurity. Can't wait for the show. I'm debating whether or not to intentionally leave our seats for the concourse when Neil plays anything off the turd.

by **Gideon** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:01 am

madsplash wrote:For the morons bashing ROR, I heard IBAWY and GCHI on the radio today.

And Loons wonder why others don't take them seriously: Let me guess, you hear "You Better Wait" all the time too, right? :lol:

by **Deb** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:18 am

Gideon wrote:MG, this isn't Fan Asylum. If you'd like for us to transform into sycophants and cultists who masturbate routinely to Steve Perry's pictures, all you need do is head down a forum below. Or you can just stick around in this forum and masturbate to Jonny Cain with me and Tito.

Fixed.

by **Gideon** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:21 am

Deb wrote:Fixed.

Oh since when do I do that? :lol:

I just simply avoid bashing the hell out of the guy and give him what credit he deserves.

by **Tito** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:24 am

SF-Dano wrote:First. Then who's album was Frontiers? Arrival? TBF? Generations? Revelation? (All with Friga in the band).

With the three you list:
1 Escape (I would not call it Cain's album - team effort)
2 Eclipse (I would not call it Schon's album - smaller team effort)
3 ROR (Perry's album only because he produced, dictated the musical direction, and for all the other crap that went down)

Generations was Augeri's.

Frontiers and TBF were the group's. As well as Arrival and Revelation.

by **madsplash** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:04 am

Gideon wrote:
madsplash wrote:For the morons bashing ROR, I heard IBAWY and GCHI on the radio today.

And Loons wonder why others don't take them seriously: Let me guess, you hear "You Better Wait" all the time too, right?

Don't give a rat's ass whether you take me seriously or not. I heard You Better Wait on the radio a lot more than you'll ever hear friggin' Tantra :roll:

And that was at the height of grunge, the worst music movement ever.

20 years from now, Journey from 1998-2011 will be completely forgotten and only the classic lineup will be thought of as epic and classic Journey. Escape, Frontiers and ROR will still being played on adult oriented melodic radio. Eclipse will be out of print.

by **Michigan Girl** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:10 am

Gideon wrote:MG, this isn't Fan Asylum. If you'd like for us to transform into sycophants and cultists who masturbate routinely to Steve Perry's pictures, all you need do is head down a forum below.

What in hell are you babbling about, wick dick?!?

Gideon wrote:Otherwise, like Don says, it's time for you to lube up.

Good lesson for you ...you should try respecting his words no matter where you might be
running your mouth ...

Now, if you had a brain cell in your pin head, you would know that JC was a huge
influence on the Escape lp, but he wasn't the driver ...please try not to use loonism
as an excuse for your idiocy ...thank you!! :wink:

by **Michigan Girl** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:21 am

Tito wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:First. Then who's album was Frontiers? Arrival? TBF? Generations? Revelation? (All with Friga in the band).

With the three you list:
1 Escape (I would not call it Cain's album - team effort)
2 Eclipse (I would not call it Schon's album - smaller team effort)
3 ROR (Perry's album only because he produced, dictated the musical direction, and for all the other crap that went down)

Generations was Augeri's.

Frontiers and TBF were the group's. As well as Arrival and Revelation.

You're just insane ...but a cutie, none~the~less!!

SFDano has it almost right!! :lol:

by **Glenn** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:28 am

Eclipse
Escape

ROR

I could probably swap Eclipse and Escape a few times depending on my mood...Right now it's Eclipse.

And I don't care how many hits or songs on the radio ROR had....That doesn't mean it's a great "legendary" Journey album.

Generations and ROR get swapped back and forth depending on which day I hate one more than the other.

by **Gideon** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:36 am

Michigan Girl wrote:Now, if you had a brain cell in your pin head, you would know that JC was a huge
influence on the Escape lp, but he wasn't the driver ...please try not to use loonism
as an excuse for your idiocy ...thank you!!

Never said he was the driver (that would be Herbie). All of Journey's albums have been team efforts with the possible exception of ROR. I explained why some might consider this to be his album, though:

Gideon wrote:It was his first album with the band, his songwriting marked a significant change in the dynamic of the songs, and it was that presence that brought it to #1.

Don't take it personally if I don't kiss Perry's ass, MG! That just means there's more for you. You're welcome! :lol:

edited: I like you too much to be too hateful for the purposes of humor, MG.

by **Jana** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:03 am

Glenn wrote:Eclipse
Escape

ROR

I could probably swap Eclipse and Escape a few times depending on my mood...Right now it's Eclipse.

And I don't care how many hits or songs on the radio ROR had....That doesn't mean it's a great "legendary" Journey album.
Generations and ROR get swapped back and forth depending on which day I hate one more than the other.

That line is funny.

Though, I would put ROR way way ahead of Generations, but I rarely listen to ROR. Sad because Perry sounded amazing on the album, but the datedness just makes me forget about it and/or cringe in places, even though there are some great songs on there. I should just create my own album from it and then I would listen to it more than once a year. I probably won't. Its time has come and gone for me. Once a year is enough.

by **ebake02** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:26 am

ROR doesn't come anywhere close to Escape and Eclipse.

by **madsplash** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:28 am

ebake02 wrote:ROR doesn't come anywhere close to Escape and Eclipse.

Wrong. It kills Eclipse. Not even in the same league. Only The Young is 1,000,000 better than anything on Eclipse.

by **Saint John** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:33 am

madsplash wrote: Only The Young is 1000000 better than anything on Eclipse.

That was originally a song from Frontiers, dipshit!

by **Gideon** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:47 am

Saint John wrote:
madsplash wrote: Only The Young is 1000000 better than anything on Eclipse.

That was originally a song from Frontiers, dipshit!

by **madsplash** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:01 pm

Saint John wrote:
madsplash wrote: Only The Young is 1000000 better than anything on Eclipse.

That was originally a song from Frontiers, dipshit!

And which album was it released on DIPSHIT? It's a part of ROR.

Consistant douche.

MR

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