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Watch for it - got a lot of good play on the TODAY show. Didn't think they would even acknowledge ECLIPSE but spent a good deal of time promoting it and COH came off strong. Plus you have the new video and maybe that will breathe some life into it.

Will radio pick it up now?

Just one problem with your theory ... the song isn't any fucking good!!!

If you ABSOLUTELY have to release a radio single, you edit AIP and sing it on the Today Show (in the correct key). You don't lead off with it either, you wait until Pineda's pipes have a little warm up and then you roll right into it.

It's not a great song to be honest.

one of the worst songs on Eclipse, kinda drew the curtains on Eclipse.
If they wanted a radio hit, AiP or Someone was the choice,
if they wanted an AOR rocker, Resonate should have been the choice.

scarab wrote:one of the worst songs on Eclipse, kinda drew the curtains on Eclipse.
If they wanted a radio hit, AiP or Someone was the choice,p
if they wanted an AOR rocker, Resonate should have been the choice.

Seems to me like the crowd enjoyed it a lot.

Toph wrote:

scarab wrote:one of the worst songs on Eclipse, kinda drew the curtains on Eclipse.
If they wanted a radio hit, AiP or Someone was the choice,p
if they wanted an AOR rocker, Resonate should have been the choice.

Seems to me like the crowd enjoyed it a lot.

Yeah, I think it's a great song. I don't understand where people don't hear it as anything but a top notch, very Journeyesque, feel good song.

Toph wrote:CITY OF HOPE TO MAKE RESURGENCE

Technically you have to have an initial surge to even be eligible for a resurgence.

The song is another nod to the "feel good" story about Pineda. Tired, broken record. Stop it already and just let him be your lead singer and stop exploiting him.

Decent song but nothing special.

There are much better songs on Eclipse.

Resonate or Anything Is Possible would be good singles.

Love COH...phenomenal beginning to a Journey song. Cymbal crash and a drum thump a split secong before Neal comes in...4 guitars enter by the 24 second mark and that riff is hypnotic.

Where's Don with chart info since the Today Show appearance?

Red13JoePa wrote:Love COH...phenomenal beginning to a Journey song. Cymbal crash and a drum thump a split secong before Neal comes in...4 guitars enter by the 24 second mark and that riff is hypnotic.

Unfortunately, the song doesn't really go anywhere after that. Cool ending solo by Neal, but the chorus is weak, weak, weak.

AR wrote:The song is another nod to the "feel good" story about Pineda. Tired, broken record. Stop it already and just let him be your lead singer and stop exploiting him.

Decent song but nothing special.

There are much better songs on Eclipse.

+ 1

Archetype wrote:Resonate or Anything Is Possible would be good singles.

+1

I dunno. I'm just not feeling City of Hope. The instrumental part of it is great. Lyrically, it's challenged. The lyrics are so corny and so hokey, I just can't get passed it.

RANT/
It's not an uplifting anthem, it's just corny. And couple that with the video? It doesn't make me feel hopeful. It makes me feel like there should be an 800 number scrolling across the bottom of the screen, like I need to be sending a couple of dollars to somebody somewhere. Maybe for just .62 cents a day, I really can make a difference in somebody's life (but I doubt it).

Neal, honey, sweetie, boo; I say this only out of love...COH is a dog. Ditch it, and hitch your wagon to another star, like say for instance, Resonate or Edge of the Moment. Even AIP is starting to grow on me...
/RANT

Sorry, it slipped...

Jubilee wrote::?

Neal, honey, sweetie, boo; I say this only out of love...COH is a dog. Ditch it, and hitch your wagon to another star, like say for instance, Resonate or Edge of the Moment. Even AIP is starting to grow on me...
/RANT

Sorry, it slipped...

Good woman.

Neal, honey, sweetie, boo; I say this only out of love...COH is a dog. Ditch it, and hitch your wagon to another star, like say for instance, Resonate or Edge of the Moment. Even AIP is starting to grow on me...

3 best tunes on Eclipse, especially Resonate, best song since Message of Love.

Don't look now, but Eclipse is starting to climb back up Walmart's bestseller list. #7 CD / #9 MP3 Download. It had fallen to about 22 or 23. Seems the today show gave it a boost, as well as hitting the states recently on tour.

Escape Artist wrote:Don't look now, but Eclipse is starting to climb back up Walmart's bestseller list. #7 CD / #9 MP3 Download. It had fallen to about 22 or 23. Seems the today show gave it a boost, as well as hitting the states recently on tour.

Nice. Where is it on the Billboard 200?

Archetype wrote:

Escape Artist wrote:Don't look now, but Eclipse is starting to climb back up Walmart's bestseller list. #7 CD / #9 MP3 Download. It had fallen to about 22 or 23. Seems the today show gave it a boost, as well as hitting the states recently on tour.

Nice. Where is it on the Billboard 200?

GH is 100
Escape is 172
Eclipse is not in the top 200

Rick wrote:

Toph wrote:

scarab wrote:one of the worst songs on Eclipse, kinda drew the curtains on Eclipse.
If they wanted a radio hit, AiP or Someone was the choice,p
if they wanted an AOR rocker, Resonate should have been the choice.

Seems to me like the crowd enjoyed it a lot.

Yeah, I think it's a great song. I don't understand where people don't hear it as anything but a top notch, very Journeyesque, feel good song.

I feel the same way Rick. I hear it and I like it. The critics here are rough!

Not everyone is feeling the love for COH.

http://www.metalkaoz.com/live-reports/2 ... go-us.html

CHICAGO:

Well, JOURNEY and FOREIGNER made a most successful pass from Europe, so there was no chance for us to miss the opportunity to get soaked in this vintage US Hard Rock even though these bands are not in their prime. And looking at the audience inside FMBA one could easily understand that there is little young blood (especially in the US) that is fond of this emotional and 100% groovy music.

The weather was good to us as compared to the DEF LEPPARD concert two days before and hence that Saturday evening was very promising. Arriving at the venue 15 minutes before the announced starting time, we found out that NIGHT RANGER were already onstage and there we were running to get inside in order to catch most of their set. The ticket price was higher than that in the DEF LEPPARD concert (we had to pay $20 more for the same two seats), so looking at a decent amount of empty sport was kind of expected. But on the back, the lawn was packed with families and friends making the attendance touching the number of 25,000 (rough estimation).

The story about how JOURNEY were resurrected by the arrival of the gifted singer Arnel Pineda is pretty much known to everybody. The US band got back in business with "Revelation" and returned on the stages playing all around the world. Fortunately for everyone, JOURNEY did not stop there and this year released the pretty good "Ecl1ps3" although I was not that touched by the result, since I could not find more than two songs to remember. Nevertheless, FMBA was looking packed, especially in the back, when the lights went out and the band stepped on stage playing something like an intro with lots of nice riffs. The sound and the light show were great making everyone clap and scream. I was pretty much caught off guard by the audience's response but after a second thought I concluded this was expected since my debut experience with JOURNEY was in Europe. And it is way different watching a band performing in their home country. During the last tours JOURNEY do not make changes in the setlist and having "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)" as the opening song was totally expected. Pineda showed up nailing the vocal parts with his crystal clear voice, impressing me one more time with his hair raising close-to-the-original performance. Also, I think he has gained more confidence sharing the stage with the Hard Rock veterans, getting additional attention with his moves and most energetic attitude. To a certain extent Pineda’s onstage energy creates an antithesis with the rest of the band that looks pretty stationary and, if you take Neal Schon out of the equation, I would dare to say indifferent. Is it just the years or is it just the lack of interest... who knows?

"Ask The Lonely" came with no pause and the singing-along continued with additional power. “We have a new album out and this is the opening track” said Pineda and "City Of Hope" followed. To my surprise almost everyone sat down just like they were disappointed. It seems that the old (on average) audience had just come for the JOURNEY hits and nothing more. Personally, I consider "City Of Hope" a very good song with great guitar leads, so I enjoyed it to the maximum. Damn, it sounded better than the studio version! The band got the same reaction with the guitar driven "Edge Of The Moment" that I enjoyed even more. The opening guitar lead is simply amazing while the vocal melodies are to die for! But, this is just me talking...

Then, it was about time to slow things down and "Lights" was the best way to do this. Night photos of city lights were projected in the video walls on the back and there I was getting a little bit emotional since I have connected this track with Chicago. Fortunately for me and my almost sweet emotions time "Wheel In The Sky" made my heart explode along with the main and killer melody while I was blew away during to the extended guitar solo! Most of the audience have watched JOURNEY many times before and consequently the singing-along was the icing on the cake, giving the band the power that I believe was missing from the first part of their set. Indeed, for the following four tracks the concert was the way it should have been from the very beginning. There was power coming from the stage and was bouncing on the dedicated crowd that knew all the lyrics from the trademark JOURNEY.

It was time to get emotional again (...those heart-broken tracks...) with the ultimate hit "Faithfully" where once again Pineda’s performance highlighted his enormous contribution to JOURNEY’s resurrection (if only the rest of them followed his lead). Maybe using the term ultimate hit was too much since during "Don't Stop Believin'" the venue was filled with the voices of everyone singing the mood lifting and inspiring lyrics. The tiny pieces of paper filled the air as the band was throwing the last notes of the song, marking the end of their regular set. Once again I watched many people leaving the venue in order to avoid the traffic that usually comes after such crowded concerts, missing the chance to watch the upcoming encore that - of course - featured "Any Way You Want It" and the party was still in high tides and then... it was the end of the show. Come on, only 12 tracks from a band that is more than 3 decades old? I am sad to say that I had a stale taste in my mouth while I was leaving the venue. Although JOURNEY performed flawlessly, their set they did two major mistakes (according to my mentality of course): 1. The setlist was ridiculously predictable and there was no track from the previous album and 2. the short duration of the set that did not justified the label of headliners.

So, that nice Saturday night we got a hearty serve of good old US Hard Rock while FOREIGNER must be acknowledged as the winners in the unofficial fight with JOURNEY. They brought more in the table forgetting about the years that have passed hitting hard the gas pedal, delivering their music with the power and energy that JOURNEY have forgotten.

JOURNEY setlist:

01. "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)"
02. "Ask The Lonely"
03. "City Of Hope"
04. "Only The Young"
05. "Send Her My Love"
06. "Edge Of The Moment"
07. "Lights"
08. "Wheel In The Sky"
09. "Be Good To Yourself"
10. "Faithfully"
11. "Don't Stop Believin'"
12. "Any Way You Want It"

TWELVE SONGS?????

Gideon wrote:TWELVE SONGS?????

The pre-show setlist shows two more (Open Arms and Stone In Love). Granted, they could have dropped them if Arnel was gassed.

Deen still MIA in that area I guess.

Don wrote:

Gideon wrote:TWELVE SONGS?????

The pre-show setlist shows two more (Open Arms and Stone In Love). Granted, they could have dropped them if Arnel was gassed.

I hope that's not an issue in Nashville. My buddies and I didn't fork over ~$800 to see them play 12 songs.

These guys are fucking morons.

I love the fact that "Loving, Touching, Squeezing" has been removed from the set

Archetype wrote:I love the fact that "Loving, Touching, Squeezing" has been removed from the set

That is the sole upside to this.

Gideon wrote:

Don wrote:

Gideon wrote:TWELVE SONGS?????

The pre-show setlist shows two more (Open Arms and Stone In Love). Granted, they could have dropped them if Arnel was gassed.

I hope that's not an issue in Nashville. My buddies and I didn't fork over ~$800 to see them play 12 songs.

These guys are fucking morons.

Well lets be realistic...they are playing with two other bands and most venues have to be empty by eleven. Don't expect an "Evening With" type of setlist. I bet you're going to get 12-15 songs.

Archetype wrote:Well lets be realistic...they are playing with two other bands and most venues have to be empty by eleven. Don't expect an "Evening With" type of setlist. I bet you're going to get 12-15 songs.

Nah, I expect around 17 or 18, which is what they've been doing. They haven't been playing 15 songs; I saw 'em in 2008 w/ Cheap Trick and 2009 w/ Heart and they played much longer sets.