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Here you go, Journey, and play them in this order:


Wheel In The Sky
Any Way You Want It
Never Walk Away
Lights
Be Good To Yourself
Chain Of Love
Open Arms
Ask The Lonely
Only The Young
Faithfully
City Of Hope (I'd rather hear AIP, but they're not gonna drop this one)
Who's Cryin' Now
Stone In Love

Encore:

Don't Stop Believin'
Separate Ways


So, any other suggestions?

'Wheel in the Sky' is too long of a song to be the intro, IMHO. It's between 8-9 minutes, I think the audience needs a little warm-up for protracted Neal jam masturbatory sessions.

Chain of Love
Resonate
City of Hope
Never Walk Away
Higher Place
Open Arms
Faithfully
Don't Stop Believin'
Separate Ways
Wheel in the Sky
Ask the Lonely
Who's Cryin' Now
Send Her My Love
I'll Be Alright Without You
Only the Young

Order them however you want.

15 songs eh?

Anyway You Want It
Be Good To Yourself
Ask The Lonely/Schon Guitar solo
Stone In Love
Only The Young
Who's Crying Now (Rotated nightly with Send Her My Love, After The Fall, After All These Years, When You Love A Woman, Faithfully)
Chain Of Love (Rotated with Resonate, Edge Of The Moment)
Wheel In The Sky
Cain Solo/Open Arms
Line Of Fire (Rotated nightly with Higher Place, Girl Can't Help It, Edge Of The Blade, Just The Same Way)
Mother, Father (Rotated nightly with Suzanne, Keep On Runnin', Party's Over) - Deen Vocs
LTS (One of my fav JRNY songs)
Separate Ways
Escape

Encore:
City Of Hope (It's a new song on the tour. Great time to play it when people are anticipating the return back to the stage for...)
Don't Stop Believin'

I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

RumTumJM wrote:I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

I'm not sure how healthy Deen's voice is either. He sounded pretty rough the last time I heard him sing.

If i may.....

The setlists I've seen are uninspiring to say the least....always catering to the drunk couple that hasn't heard of journey since 1984...catching that waft of nostalgia mixed with bud light, then off to the family truckster for a quickie in the parking lot, before having to be home to relieve the babysitter.....meanwhile, fans that are aware that there are more than 3 songs per album are left holding our respective genitalia wondering what the fuck we just witnessed.....

Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)
Ask The Lonely
Escape
Higher Place (Rotated with "Troubled Child" and "Rubicon")
Resonate
Send Her My Love
Lights
When You Love A Woman (Rotated with "After All These Years")
Edge Of The Blade
Wheel In The Sky
Girl Can't Help It (Rotated with "After The Fall")
Any Way You Want It
Faithfully
-------------------------------------------------
Stone In Love (Rotated with "Someone")
Don't Stop Believing

Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)
Ask The Lonely
Escape
Higher Place (Rotated with "Troubled Child" and "Rubicon")
Resonate
Send Her My Love
Lights
When You Love A Woman (Rotated with "After All These Years")
Edge Of The Blade
Wheel In The Sky
Girl Can't Help It (Rotated with "After The Fall")
Any Way You Want It
Faithfully
-------------------------------------------------
Stone In Love (Rotated with "Someone")
Don't Stop Believing

Someone stop Archetype! he is giving us a setlist for every show!

Behshad wrote:Someone stop Archetype! he is giving us a setlist for every show!

Intro (screens how history of the band with DSB studio version playing)

House lights darken (Eclipse logo on center screen):

1. Resonate (You have a captive audience - use it during the first song)
2. Be Good To Yourself
3. Wheel In The Sky
4. Any Way You Want It
5. City Of Hope
6. Open Arms
7. Girl Can't Help It
8. Stone In Love
9. Who's Cryin' Now
10. Escape
11. When You Love A Woman
12. Separate Ways

Encore #1

13. Just the Same Way/Anytime (cheating slightly here)
14. FAITHFULLY (leave stage and back immediately)

Encore #2
5. Don't Stop Believing

Saint John wrote:Here you go, Journey, and play them in this order:


Wheel In The Sky
Any Way You Want It
Never Walk Away
Lights
Be Good To Yourself
Chain Of Love
Open Arms
Ask The Lonely
Only The Young
Faithfully
City Of Hope (I'd rather hear AIP, but they're not gonna drop this one)
Who's Cryin' Now
Stone In Love

Encore:

Don't Stop Believin'
Separate Ways


So, any other suggestions?

I'd drop "Never Walk Away" (I can't stand that song!), and add "Girl Can't Help It". I'd also drop "Only The Young", and replace it with "Keep On Running".

G.I.Jim wrote:

Saint John wrote:Here you go, Journey, and play them in this order:


Wheel In The Sky
Any Way You Want It
Never Walk Away
Lights
Be Good To Yourself
Chain Of Love
Open Arms
Ask The Lonely
Only The Young
Faithfully
City Of Hope (I'd rather hear AIP, but they're not gonna drop this one)
Who's Cryin' Now
Stone In Love

Encore:

Don't Stop Believin'
Separate Ways


So, any other suggestions?

I'd drop "Never Walk Away" (I can't stand that song!), and add "Girl Can't Help It". I'd also drop "Only The Young", and replace it with "Keep On Running".

Nah, throw IBAWY in there.

get rid of CoH

play Resonate, Someone, or AiP,

scarab wrote:get rid of CoH

play Resonate, Someone, or AiP,

Good man. I agree on all fronts.

Take out Lights and COH.
Throw in Ever Since The World Began and Alone.

G.I.Jim wrote:


I'd drop "Never Walk Away" (I can't stand that song!),

Care to explain ?!

Don wrote:Take out Lights and COH.
Throw in Ever Since The World Began and Alone.

Why not? Heart does covers.
AP does a killer Hotel California too.

RumTumJM wrote:I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

In one of the more recent interviews, Deen explained that even though he doesn't mind singing a song or two, he's content playing drums. He also hinted that the band or management thought it didn't make sense to fans to have someone behind a drum kit singing although I'm a bit puzzled at this since I've seemingly always read positive feedback on his performances and honestly am in awe with his voice combined with playing.

S2M wrote:If i may.....

The setlists I've seen are uninspiring to say the least....always catering to the drunk couple that hasn't heard of journey since 1984...catching that waft of nostalgia mixed with bud light, then off to the family truckster for a quickie in the parking lot, before having to be home to relieve the babysitter.....meanwhile, fans that are aware that there are more than 3 songs per album are left holding our respective genitalia wondering what the fuck we just witnessed..... :lol:

Maybe they're going to the wrong concert. I wasn't left holding my genitalia, got 6 songs off the new album.

PianoMan1986 wrote:

RumTumJM wrote:I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

In one of the more recent interviews, Deen explained that even though he doesn't mind singing a song or two, he's content playing drums. He also hinted that the band or management thought it didn't make sense to fans to have someone behind a drum kit singing although I'm a bit puzzled at this since I've seemingly always read positive feedback on his performances and honestly am in awe with his voice combined with playing.

What was the last band you've heard of that had any success with a drummer singing lead? I love Deen. But I agree -- he should not be singing lead/ Arnel should sing the songs.

FamilyMan wrote:

PianoMan1986 wrote:

RumTumJM wrote:I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

In one of the more recent interviews, Deen explained that even though he doesn't mind singing a song or two, he's content playing drums. He also hinted that the band or management thought it didn't make sense to fans to have someone behind a drum kit singing although I'm a bit puzzled at this since I've seemingly always read positive feedback on his performances and honestly am in awe with his voice combined with playing.

What was the last band you've heard of that had any success with a drummer singing lead? I love Deen. But I agree -- he should not be singing lead/ Arnel should sing the songs.

Umm..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xnGvAlkvE

RumTumJM wrote:I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

Deen's voice is fine but a shortened set list means he gets no lead vocals at this time. Maybe as the tour goes on he will do some of the songs we love to hear him sing. It's always a treat to long time fans to hear a deep cut like Mother/Father and if they haven't seen the band recently turn to each other and say Who is Singing!! It's the DRUMMER? !! woohoo I guess that the folks who pick the setlist have decided to let Arnel be the Star during the Eclipse Tour.

FamilyMan wrote:

PianoMan1986 wrote:

RumTumJM wrote:I just do not get why they can't throw in a Deen song or 2. There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

By adding a song or 2 of his, they can add to the setlist, and it does not take ANY TOLL on Arnel's voice.

In one of the more recent interviews, Deen explained that even though he doesn't mind singing a song or two, he's content playing drums. He also hinted that the band or management thought it didn't make sense to fans to have someone behind a drum kit singing although I'm a bit puzzled at this since I've seemingly always read positive feedback on his performances and honestly am in awe with his voice combined with playing.

What was the last band you've heard of that had any success with a drummer singing lead? I love Deen. But I agree -- he should not be singing lead/ Arnel should sing the songs.

The Eagles? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fg1lZ4TQXU

One of the coolest Encores I can think of would be one that would be a total shock. After the fans holler for more for about 3 minutes,
have Smitty get up on the kit and as IBAWY starts up, Steve Perry walks out on stage. Fans start cheering, the band
stops playing, while the fans blow the roof off the place, then the song resumes. A one off deal at a large venue and it would be crazy.

steveo777 wrote:One of the coolest Encores I can think of would be one that would be a total shock. After the fans holler for more for about 3 minutes,
have Smitty get up on the kit and as IBAWY starts up, Steve Perry walks out on stage. Fans start cheering, the band
stops playing, while the fans blow the roof off the place, then the song resumes. A one off deal at a large venue and it would be crazy.

Shut yo mouf boyee! That would be epic.

steveo777 wrote:One of the coolest Encores I can think of would be one that would be a total shock. After the fans holler for more for about 3 minutes,
have Smitty get up on the kit and as IBAWY starts up, Steve Perry walks out on stage. Fans start cheering, the band
stops playing, while the fans blow the roof off the place, then the song resumes. A one off deal at a large venue and it would be crazy.

Ahhhhh...Every Loons wet dream...

I think this goes in the "Use Your Imagination" thread. But, uhm...exactly where is Arnel during this little nocturnal emission of yours? One off deal, or no, if I were Arnel, I'd be thinking up ways to Tonya Harding his @ss, right now.

FamilyMan wrote:What was the last band you've heard of that had any success with a drummer singing lead? I love Deen. But I agree -- he should not be singing lead/ Arnel should sing the songs.

Rare Earth (yeah, OK, almost 40 years ago but Rivera was great )

If it can only be 15, why not drop Never Walk Away for What I needed? That was one of the best live songs they had last tour, and it's a much better song.

RumTumJM wrote: There has got to be a reason why he has not sung a single lead vocal this entire tour.

Mgmt told him he wouldn't be singing this tour - says it was "confusing" the fans. Yep...WTF?