MR

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:15 am**

With all the talk about Foreigner no longer really Foreigner and Journey disbanding in the near future, I just began thinking about at what point would Journey no longer be Journey to you? If Neal decides to start doing reality shows and the others still want to continue the band, would you consider still supporting the band? If Jonathan quits to pursue his Nashville interests and Gregg Rolie returns would they be more "Journey" than they are today? Just a few things to think about .

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:51 am**

Already happened

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:26 am**

If Neal AND Jonathan left.

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:30 am**

It already happened last month when they added the blonde with the invisible tambourine.

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:44 am**

Don wrote:It already happened last month when they added the blonde with the invisible tambourine.

Guessing it was lost a Really long time ago ...

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:48 am**

DrFU wrote:
Don wrote:It already happened last month when they added the blonde with the invisible tambourine.

Guessing it was lost a Really long time ago ...

Are you talking about your virginity or something else? :lol:

Sorry....just couldn't help it.

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:20 am**

It's subjective ...but for me, a long time ago.
The current Journey is just a way to relive some good ol' times.
Kinda like going to see the current Spinners.

They are just an old band w/some new members, traveling around,
playing all the old songs, giving me every reason to feel ^^^^the way
I do raaaght now!! :wink:

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:30 am**

maverick218 wrote:If Neal AND Jonathan left.

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:31 am**

So what if Neal and Jon left and Steve Perry came back in with Steve Smith?

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:40 am**

onmyjrny wrote:So what if Neal and Jon left and Steve Perry came back in with Steve Smith?

That's not Journey to me.
I see no evidence that Perry could sing anywhere close to the level he used to, and I have every reason to be otherwise.
And while Steve Smith is technically gifted, he wasn't an essential component to the creation of the songs. He's as expendable as Deen is, in my opinion.

Journey to me is about the music. Ross, Steve, and all the other members past and present left a mark on it. But the ones who truly made all the difference was Perry, Schon, and Cain. As long as Schon and Cain are present, it's Journey. Perry's third doesn't weigh more than their combined two-thirds in my book.

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:20 am**

I understand Schon and all, BUT...

If Perry (old voice was suddenly rejuvenated), Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, and two others to take over the bass and guitar got together, I would call that Journey without hesitation.

And would enjoy it much more than the current incarnation of the band.

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:27 am**

onmyjrny wrote:With all the talk about Foreigner no longer really Foreigner and Journey disbanding in the near future, I just began thinking about at what point would Journey no longer be Journey to you? If Neal decides to start doing reality shows and the others still want to continue the band, would you consider still supporting the band? If Jonathan quits to pursue his Nashville interests and Gregg Rolie returns would they be more "Journey" than they are today? Just a few things to think about .

If Cain departs, Schon will not continue for sure

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:36 am**

knox wrote:I understand Schon and all, BUT...

If Perry (old voice was suddenly rejuvenated), Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, and two others to take over the bass and guitar got together, I would call that Journey without hesitation.

And would enjoy it much more than the current incarnation of the band.

Hey, welcome back knox! To me the core of Journey is Perry and Schon.

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:39 am**

Deb wrote:
knox wrote:I understand Schon and all, BUT...

If Perry (old voice was suddenly rejuvenated), Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, and two others to take over the bass and guitar got together, I would call that Journey without hesitation.

And would enjoy it much more than the current incarnation of the band.

Hey, welcome back knox! To me the core of Journey is Perry and Schon.

Nice to be back! Thank you.

Yes, their chemistry was awesome. Too bad we all have to get old - and in Perry's case, lose his voice.

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:00 am**

knox wrote:
Deb wrote:
knox wrote:I understand Schon and all, BUT...

If Perry (old voice was suddenly rejuvenated), Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, and two others to take over the bass and guitar got together, I would call that Journey without hesitation.

And would enjoy it much more than the current incarnation of the band.

Hey, welcome back knox! To me the core of Journey is Perry and Schon.

Nice to be back! Thank you.

Yes, their chemistry was awesome. Too bad we all have to get old - and in Perry's case, lose his voice.

I don't think it's lost. Can he belt out those early Journey tunes nowadays, probably not. But I could sooooo see those two possibly writing together again down the road........and maybe doing a little accoustic set in some small little Northern California club for fun. Ya just never know.....what can come about down the road after Journey's done. Hell, nobody ever thought Eric and Billy would be the best of buds again either.

Seeing first hand those two (all of them for that matter) get along now joking around like long lost bros, just gives me the warm fuzzies. Positive thoughts....that that will be Perry and Schon some day too.

Wishful thinking.....I know, I know. :lol:

But hey, it's worked before.

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:23 am**

Deb wrote:Can he belt out those early Journey tunes nowadays, probably not.

Bless your optimism. :lol:

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:48 am**

Gideon wrote:
Deb wrote:Can he belt out those early Journey tunes nowadays, probably not.

Bless your optimism.

Hey, it's not his fans that expect him to sound like he did on the early stuff, it's his critics.

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:36 am**

onmyjrny wrote:So what if Neal and Jon left and Steve Perry came back in with Steve Smith?

That wouldn't work. When Perry came out for his solo tour with Brewster, it was really cool to hear Perry. But when he did the Journey tunes, the magic was not there. Neal brings a lot more to the music than I think some may realize. I think all the current line up are great, but if Neal quit, then I'd be done too. Perry got my attention first and got me into this band, but it was Neal that made me love them.

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:54 am**

george_g wrote:
onmyjrny wrote:With all the talk about Foreigner no longer really Foreigner and Journey disbanding in the near future, I just began thinking about at what point would Journey no longer be Journey to you? If Neal decides to start doing reality shows and the others still want to continue the band, would you consider still supporting the band? If Jonathan quits to pursue his Nashville interests and Gregg Rolie returns would they be more "Journey" than they are today? Just a few things to think about .

If Cain departs, Schon will not continue for sure

I disagree. This car will only be impounded once Neal shuts it off. Don't see that happening anytime soon.

Posted: **Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:04 pm**

Majestic wrote:
onmyjrny wrote:So what if Neal and Jon left and Steve Perry came back in with Steve Smith?

That wouldn't work. When Perry came out for his solo tour with Brewster, it was really cool to hear Perry. But when he did the Journey tunes, the magic was not there. Neal brings a lot more to the music than I think some may realize. I think all the current line up are great, but if Neal quit, then I'd be done too. Perry got my attention first and got me into this band, but it was Neal that made me love them.

You know, I agree with you on this. My feeling after Perry's solo show was something was MISSING. I totally enjoyed seeing him, he was a great frontman and vocalist. I just wished the whole night that I was seeing Journey along with him.

Posted: **Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:04 am**

To answer the above question Journey will stop being Journey when Neal hires Whitney Houston + others to be their next lead singers. Here is what will unfold after the band hires Whitney:

Whitney suddenly quits(protest over too much money being spent on pre & post concert meals) look for Neal & Jonathan to go after a 450lb Axl Rose. Axl will then be fired after his 4TH Journey show for consuming far toooooooooo much of the pre & post concert meal spread.

Finally in 2019 Steve Perry will join his band mates in the studio to record a new album with a 60 city tour to start in 2020. Unfortunately, Steve will have to pull out of the tour because of cataracts in both eyes. With thousands of concert tickets already sold and the Grammy nominated single 'Feed The World' #1 in 11 countries Neal and Jonathan decide to move forward and hire new lead singer Helen Reddy. Behind Neals shredding guitar work and Helen's rapsy vocals a revitalized Journey has another #1 song in the remake of I am Women.

To me this is when Journey will stop being Journey!

Posted: **Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:42 am**

yogi wrote:To answer the above question Journey will stop being Journey when Neal hires Whitney Houston + others to be their next lead singers. Here is what will unfold after the band hires Whitney:

Whitney suddenly quits(protest over too much money being spent on pre & post concert meals) look for Neal & Jonathan to go after a 450lb Axl Rose. Axl will then be fired after his 4TH Journey show for consuming far toooooooooo much of the pre & post concert meal spread.

Finally in 2019 Steve Perry will join his band mates in the studio to record a new album with a 60 city tour to start in 2020. Unfortunately, Steve will have to pull out of the tour because of cataracts in both eyes. With thousands of concert tickets already sold and the Grammy nominated single 'Feed The World' #1 in 11 countries Neal and Jonathan decide to move forward and hire new lead singer Helen Reddy. Behind Neals shredding guitar work and Helen's rapsy vocals a revitalized Journey has another #1 song in the remake of I am Women.

To me this is when Journey will stop being Journey!

Filmed on location....somewhere in the Northeast , on a Vineyard...for a reality show ..with
Bobby Brown..singing in the background..."It's My Perrogative"..... :shock:

Posted: **Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:55 am**

Journey stops when Neal shuts it down for whatever reason. It's nice to think that he'd care enough to stop if Cain wanted to get off the ride, but members have been replaced all throughout the life of the band, and it's HIS band. It would be almost like today's Foreigner, where Mick Jones is the only original since the beginning. Yes, Ross might still be there, but he's inconsequential.

Posted: **Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:51 pm**

marco17 wrote: Yes, Ross might still be there, but he's inconsequential.

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Thats harsh, give Ross his due. :roll:

Posted: **Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:53 pm**

majik wrote:
marco17 wrote: Yes, Ross might still be there, but he's inconsequential.

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Thats harsh, give Ross his due.

I agree. I think he did some of his best playing ever on this new record.

Posted: **Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:54 pm**

majik wrote:
marco17 wrote: Yes, Ross might still be there, but he's inconsequential.

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Thats harsh, give Ross his due.

Ross Valory Rocks!

I like Ross. Night after night he just goes out there and does his job, makes funny faces, and doesn't bring blonde controversial attention whores with him. He also doesn't go noodling off on the bass. Quite simply put, he stays in his square. Good dude.

Posted: **Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:56 am**

steveo777 wrote:
majik wrote:
marco17 wrote: Yes, Ross might still be there, but he's inconsequential.

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Thats harsh, give Ross his due.

Ross Valory Rocks!

I like Ross. Night after night he just goes out there and does his job, makes funny faces, and doesn't bring blonde controversial attention whores with him. He also doesn't go noodling off on the bass. Quite simply put, he stays in his square. Good dude.

Was not my intention to make it harsh, Ross is Ross and he does his thing. My point is that musically it is Neal and Jonathon that make Journey what it is and has been since Perry left the band. If Neal wants to go on he will, regardless to who it is with under the Journey name, but Ross does not contribute from a song writing perspective the way Cain does, and Journey would lose some of it's song writing balance if Neal went on without him. If Cain leaves it's really the Neal Schon Band.

Posted: **Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:58 am**

marco17 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
majik wrote:
marco17 wrote: Yes, Ross might still be there, but he's inconsequential.

.

Thats harsh, give Ross his due.

Ross Valory Rocks!

I like Ross. Night after night he just goes out there and does his job, makes funny faces, and doesn't bring blonde controversial attention whores with him. He also doesn't go noodling off on the bass. Quite simply put, he stays in his square. Good dude.

Was not my intention to make it harsh, Ross is Ross and he does his thing. My point is that musically it is Neal and Jonathon that make Journey what it is and has been since Perry left the band. If Neal wants to go on he will, regardless to who it is with under the Journey name, but Ross does not contribute from a song writing perspective the way Cain does, and Journey would lose some of it's song writing balance if Neal went on without him. If Cain leaves it's really the Neal Schon Band.

We've already seen how that turned out. :shock:

Posted: **Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:15 am**

steveo777 wrote:
marco17 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
majik wrote:
marco17 wrote: Yes, Ross might still be there, but he's inconsequential.

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Thats harsh, give Ross his due.

Ross Valory Rocks!

I like Ross. Night after night he just goes out there and does his job, makes funny faces, and doesn't bring blonde controversial attention whores with him. He also doesn't go noodling off on the bass. Quite simply put, he stays in his square. Good dude.

Was not my intention to make it harsh, Ross is Ross and he does his thing. My point is that musically it is Neal and Jonathon that make Journey what it is and has been since Perry left the band. If Neal wants to go on he will, regardless to who it is with under the Journey name, but Ross does not contribute from a song writing perspective the way Cain does, and Journey would lose some of it's song writing balance if Neal went on without him. If Cain leaves it's really the Neal Schon Band.

We've already seen how that turned out.

Exactly, it will be a trainwreck, but the point is when does J cease to be J and that's it.

Posted: **Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:42 pm**

Seven Wishes wrote:
george_g wrote:
onmyjrny wrote:With all the talk about Foreigner no longer really Foreigner and Journey disbanding in the near future, I just began thinking about at what point would Journey no longer be Journey to you? If Neal decides to start doing reality shows and the others still want to continue the band, would you consider still supporting the band? If Jonathan quits to pursue his Nashville interests and Gregg Rolie returns would they be more "Journey" than they are today? Just a few things to think about .

If Cain departs, Schon will not continue for sure

I disagree. This car will only be impounded once Neal shuts it off. Don't see that happening anytime soon.

Cain and Schon will decide together. Neal wouldn't have brought the band back w/out Jon, he's not going to carry on w/out him. No way.

MR

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