MR

I heard rumors of this over the weekend and now see on Facebook that Andrew has heard the same.

2012 looks like an abbreviated tour of Europe and the regular North American Tour.

No rumor. Fact.

Andrew wrote:No rumor. Fact.

Arnel was really excited about them doing five shows in Japan next year, even asking for setlist suggestions. What happened to kill that?

Don wrote:

Andrew wrote:No rumor. Fact.

Arnel was really excited about them doing five shows in Japan next year, even asking for setlist suggestions. What happened to kill that?

Somebody had a run in with the feds and has passport issues?

DrFU wrote:

Don wrote:

Andrew wrote:No rumor. Fact.

Arnel was really excited about them doing five shows in Japan next year, even asking for setlist suggestions. What happened to kill that?

Somebody had a run in with the feds and has passport issues?

A certain blonde is probably on the International no-fly list. lol

Hmmmm, I wonder why?

steveo777 wrote:Hmmmm, I wonder why?

I would say it's because of road stress, but I would definitely like to hear your opinion on it.

Rick wrote:

steveo777 wrote:Hmmmm, I wonder why?

I would say it's because of road stress, but I would definitely like to hear your opinion on it.

My opinion doesn't matter around here. That was established long ago......but I normally do always have something to say.

Neal motherfucking Schon! I think they were over zealous for this years tour, then even though they had quantity, they let
quality go to hell. Neal got his way on an album that has good music, but was poorly promoted and flopped in sales. They ran
Pineda into the ground and falsely called this year's tour the Eclipse tour, when so little of the album got played. I don't give a shit
if they only play 4 gigs next year if they'll give the fans their money's worth and no triple bill bullshit. Creativity has flown out the
window and it will be left to be seen if they can reinvent themselves, or just fade into obscurity. Also, the economy is not out of the
woods and we could easily slip back into a recession and I don't think Azoff wants to allocate too much budget to Journey at this point.

steveo777 wrote:

Rick wrote:

steveo777 wrote:Hmmmm, I wonder why?

I would say it's because of road stress, but I would definitely like to hear your opinion on it.

My opinion doesn't matter around here. That was established long ago......but I normally do always have something to say.

Neal motherfucking Schon! I think they were over zealous for this years tour, then even though they had quantity, they let
quality go to hell. Neal got his way on an album that has good music, but was poorly promoted and flopped in sales. They ran
Pineda into the ground and falsely called this year's tour the Eclipse tour, when so little of the album got played. I don't give a shit
if they only play 4 gigs next year if they'll give the fans their money's worth and no triple bill bullshit. Creativity has flown out the
window and it will be left to be seen if they can reinvent themselves, or just fade into obscurity. Also, the economy is not out of the
woods and we could easily slip back into a recession and I don't think Azoff wants to allocate too much budget to Journey at this point.

I'm absolutely rejecting this post. I asked for your opinion, not general tabloid fodder. I'll give you one more try.

If 2013 happens at all for Journey, I'll be surprised.
I still think that an unsuccessful album, and all the tabloid crap, has probably put the brakes on.
Hhm, may not even be much of 2012.

Love you Journey, but...we'll see...


later~

We're all dying in December of 2012, so who cares???

I'm just hoping they hold on until Saturday so I can get another one of those Journey bottle openers in my ILAA goodie bag.

Rick wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

Rick wrote:

steveo777 wrote:Hmmmm, I wonder why?

I would say it's because of road stress, but I would definitely like to hear your opinion on it.

My opinion doesn't matter around here. That was established long ago......but I normally do always have something to say.

Neal motherfucking Schon! I think they were over zealous for this years tour, then even though they had quantity, they let
quality go to hell. Neal got his way on an album that has good music, but was poorly promoted and flopped in sales. They ran
Pineda into the ground and falsely called this year's tour the Eclipse tour, when so little of the album got played. I don't give a shit
if they only play 4 gigs next year if they'll give the fans their money's worth and no triple bill bullshit. Creativity has flown out the
window and it will be left to be seen if they can reinvent themselves, or just fade into obscurity. Also, the economy is not out of the
woods and we could easily slip back into a recession and I don't think Azoff wants to allocate too much budget to Journey at this point.

I'm absolutely rejecting this post. I asked for your opinion, not general tabloid fodder. I'll give you one more try.

Fuck you, Jim! 1 step down will not work for Journey music and that's where they'll be by next year.

steveo777 wrote:

Rick wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

Rick wrote:

steveo777 wrote:Hmmmm, I wonder why?

I would say it's because of road stress, but I would definitely like to hear your opinion on it.

My opinion doesn't matter around here. That was established long ago......but I normally do always have something to say.

Neal motherfucking Schon! I think they were over zealous for this years tour, then even though they had quantity, they let
quality go to hell. Neal got his way on an album that has good music, but was poorly promoted and flopped in sales. They ran
Pineda into the ground and falsely called this year's tour the Eclipse tour, when so little of the album got played. I don't give a shit
if they only play 4 gigs next year if they'll give the fans their money's worth and no triple bill bullshit. Creativity has flown out the
window and it will be left to be seen if they can reinvent themselves, or just fade into obscurity. Also, the economy is not out of the
woods and we could easily slip back into a recession and I don't think Azoff wants to allocate too much budget to Journey at this point.

I'm absolutely rejecting this post. I asked for your opinion, not general tabloid fodder. I'll give you one more try.

Fuck you, Jim! 1 step down will not work for Journey music and that's where they'll be by next year.

Jim? Drunk bastard. Sober up and then post on this.

Rick wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

Rick wrote:

steveo777 wrote:

Rick wrote:

steveo777 wrote:Hmmmm, I wonder why?

I would say it's because of road stress, but I would definitely like to hear your opinion on it.

My opinion doesn't matter around here. That was established long ago......but I normally do always have something to say.

Neal motherfucking Schon! I think they were over zealous for this years tour, then even though they had quantity, they let
quality go to hell. Neal got his way on an album that has good music, but was poorly promoted and flopped in sales. They ran
Pineda into the ground and falsely called this year's tour the Eclipse tour, when so little of the album got played. I don't give a shit
if they only play 4 gigs next year if they'll give the fans their money's worth and no triple bill bullshit. Creativity has flown out the
window and it will be left to be seen if they can reinvent themselves, or just fade into obscurity. Also, the economy is not out of the
woods and we could easily slip back into a recession and I don't think Azoff wants to allocate too much budget to Journey at this point.

I'm absolutely rejecting this post. I asked for your opinion, not general tabloid fodder. I'll give you one more try.

Fuck you, Jim! 1 step down will not work for Journey music and that's where they'll be by next year.

Jim? Drunk bastard. Sober up and then post on this.

Dick face, I didn't even look at who posted it. It looked like something Jim would post. Fuck you twice!

And this Keystone Ice, just might be imparing my vision.

So when the music dies down and the curtains have closed and the spotlight turns off of schon this tour...
any bets on how fast the salahi chic runs? And whom does she focus her sights on nexr?

tater1977 wrote:So when the music dies down and the curtains have closed and the spotlight turns off of schon this tour...
any bets on how fast the salahi chic runs? And whom does she focus her sights on nexr?

Maybe that's part of the plan. Azoff let go of the reins until it's time to pull Neal's choke chain. Maybe he pulled it hard. I hope he did. Neal needs a good whack upside the head with a 2x4.

Don wrote:

Andrew wrote:No rumor. Fact.

Arnel was really excited about them doing five shows in Japan next year, even asking for setlist suggestions. What happened to kill that?

With Eclipse bombing, they've over extended themselves and are pulling back a bit. It's crazy talk to say they didn't care if the album sold. It seems to me that they were counting on it...the album has 'legs', yeah right. it got up and walked into some hole in Arizona to be buried cuz it didn't sell near what was expected. Those were the only legs it had

So, yeah, they'll slow down and enjoy their senior years a bit more...cuz the resurgence is over.

tater1977 wrote:So when the music dies down and the curtains have closed and the spotlight turns off of schon this tour...
any bets on how fast the salahi chic runs? And whom does she focus her sights on nexr?

Perry is still single.

Monker wrote:

tater1977 wrote:So when the music dies down and the curtains have closed and the spotlight turns off of schon this tour...
any bets on how fast the salahi chic runs? And whom does she focus her sights on nexr?

Perry is still single.

He's too smart to fall into any cracks like that.

Monker wrote:

tater1977 wrote:So when the music dies down and the curtains have closed and the spotlight turns off of schon this tour...
any bets on how fast the salahi chic runs? And whom does she focus her sights on nexr?

Perry is still single.

I'm betting that if Perry saw that coming..he would jump on his pony and yell...
"Ride Pony Ride"...

steveo777 wrote:

Monker wrote:

tater1977 wrote:So when the music dies down and the curtains have closed and the spotlight turns off of schon this tour...
any bets on how fast the salahi chic runs? And whom does she focus her sights on nexr?

Perry is still single.

He's too smart to fall into any cracks like that.

I sprayed me beer all over me laptop on that one Steveo lol..thanks

tater1977 wrote:So when the music dies down and the curtains have closed and the spotlight turns off of schon this tour...
any bets on how fast the salahi chic runs? And whom does she focus her sights on next?

Well, historically, who will he (Schon) tap next? I mean, it's not all just her, no?

Perhaps, that's exactly why it's being reign'd in. There's probably a much greater back story here. Azoff, maybe someone unknown to us, Perry (Yeah, many think he still calls some shots.), et al, ... they're gonna let whatever fade, let egos cool, and re-eval, before committing to anything 'more financial'. A tour of whatever size 180 degrees away is probably very expensive.

It only makes sense. But who really knows? Maybe Cain's growing Nashville presence is creating concern. Maybe Pineda is talking real fatigue. (Something Augeri should have done early-on.) Or maybe, just maybe, Schon himself wants everything to settle-down for awhile.

Muy interesante, no?


later~

Could just be simple explanation.
3 out of 5 members are pushing 60 and over. Globetrotting and playing all over the world is hard on the body, and Arnel's pipes need to hold up. Asia fans will be disappointed with the wait, but probably makes sense for the band to not push themselves.

Arkansas wrote:they're gonna let whatever fade, let egos cool, and re-eval, before committing to anything 'more financial'. A tour of whatever size 180 degrees away is probably very expensive.

Exactly....and Eclipse isn't going to fund it.

I

Live cd or dvd is their only option to get back on the charts.

Maybe they've decided to call it quits in 2013 after the Asian tour and they can just drop Arnel off on the way out of town.

G.I.Jim wrote:We're all dying in December of 2012, so who cares???

Okey dokey. I've now seen one of my favorite bands LIVE and re-united. So I'm good to go.....