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Don wrote:Nearly 1 million tickets.
Not quite the 2.5 million they sold in 1983 but still, not too bad.
I believe this award encompasses the band's entire career, not just any particular year.
steveo777 wrote:Don wrote:Nearly 1 million tickets.
Not quite the 2.5 million they sold in 1983 but still, not too bad.
I believe this award encompasses the band's entire career, not just any particular year.
For where they are now, pretty good showing, if you ask me. Without their entire career this award would not be possible, but these awards are not typical for
new acts, so collectively, they've earned it. It would be cool if they could get all past and present members there for the award. I wonder if Perry would show up?
annie89509 wrote:This is not a televised award? Well, it's still an honor to be recognized by the industry...think about all the other bands that are their peers. Maybe some brownie points for the RnRHOF?
Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegateWhat could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?
brywool wrote:Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegateWhat could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?
This is a really cool award for ANY classic rock band. The fact that these guys and a few others of that era can do some decent business in this economy is pretty respectable. All without the benefit of radio, sales, or tv. Too bad the record companies can't seem to figure out how to actually promote bands like Journey anymore.
Don wrote:brywool wrote:Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegateWhat could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?
This is a really cool award for ANY classic rock band. The fact that these guys and a few others of that era can do some decent business in this economy is pretty respectable. All without the benefit of radio, sales, or tv. Too bad the record companies can't seem to figure out how to actually promote bands like Journey anymore.
There are a few bands that can still get by without a few of these things. An example would be Iron Maiden. How many times do you hear any of their music on the radio or see them do a TV appearance?
Their last album still went top 5 on Billboard and #1 in over a dozen other countries. They sold out stadiums and 50,000 seat arenas this summer in Europe, South America and Asia, MSG, etc.
I think as long as there are no major divisive actions that splinter the fanbase, a band can hold onto its audience pretty much its entire career.
brywool wrote:Don wrote:brywool wrote:Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegateWhat could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?
This is a really cool award for ANY classic rock band. The fact that these guys and a few others of that era can do some decent business in this economy is pretty respectable. All without the benefit of radio, sales, or tv. Too bad the record companies can't seem to figure out how to actually promote bands like Journey anymore.
There are a few bands that can still get by without a few of these things. An example would be Iron Maiden. How many times do you hear any of their music on the radio or see them do a TV appearance?
Their last album still went top 5 on Billboard and #1 in over a dozen other countries. They sold out stadiums and 50,000 seat arenas this summer in Europe, South America and Asia, MSG, etc.
I think as long as there are no major divisive actions that splinter the fanbase, a band can hold onto its audience pretty much its entire career.
But that's OUTSIDE the US. Even in Cain's interview yesterday, he mentioned that about the "outside American market". They're more open to listening to NEW stuff. Americans don't want anything that's not familiar to them from these acts. That's why Journey plays the Dirty Dozen over here and plays their new stuff outside of the US. If IM (or any of these bands) had to rely on just the US, they'd never put out new music, hence Styx.
Don wrote:Bon Jovi is probably an exception for the latter as they can go out and pretty much play anything/garbage and still sell out stadiums regardless.
Don wrote:brywool wrote:Don wrote:brywool wrote:Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegateWhat could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?
This is a really cool award for ANY classic rock band. The fact that these guys and a few others of that era can do some decent business in this economy is pretty respectable. All without the benefit of radio, sales, or tv. Too bad the record companies can't seem to figure out how to actually promote bands like Journey anymore.
There are a few bands that can still get by without a few of these things. An example would be Iron Maiden. How many times do you hear any of their music on the radio or see them do a TV appearance?
Their last album still went top 5 on Billboard and #1 in over a dozen other countries. They sold out stadiums and 50,000 seat arenas this summer in Europe, South America and Asia, MSG, etc.
I think as long as there are no major divisive actions that splinter the fanbase, a band can hold onto its audience pretty much its entire career.
But that's OUTSIDE the US. Even in Cain's interview yesterday, he mentioned that about the "outside American market". They're more open to listening to NEW stuff. Americans don't want anything that's not familiar to them from these acts. That's why Journey plays the Dirty Dozen over here and plays their new stuff outside of the US. If IM (or any of these bands) had to rely on just the US, they'd never put out new music, hence Styx.
Since I'm using Iron Maiden as an example, their last album debuted top 5 in the states and they continue to sell out places like MSG and multiple nights at the L.A. forum, all this without even including some of their biggest hits (The Trooper for example ) in the setlist for every single show.
That said, metal fans are more of your devoted types, where melodic rock bands like Journey and Foreigner due tend to get the "Meh.." type of fans more than not.
Bon Jovi is probably an exception for the latter as they can go out and pretty much play anything/garbage and still sell out stadiums regardless.
steveo777 wrote:Where's Arnel?
Did Neal really need to flaunt the skank?
Is Neal wearing eye shadow?
RocknRoll wrote:Rick wrote:Good lord. Is he sun burned or did he roll his face in a bag of Doritos?
Looks like time on the bike...raccoon eyes!
"Arel Pineda brought us back into the forefront, really regenerated us. There's really no end to it. We have worked our asses off this year"
NoMoreTails wrote:I'm really surprised Jonathan wasn't there. The whole band should have been but Arnel is probably back home now.
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:NoMoreTails wrote:I'm really surprised Jonathan wasn't there. The whole band should have been but Arnel is probably back home now.
Again, this award is for being a legend of live performances for their ENTIRE career. Ross and Neal have been there since the beginning. That's why they were the ones accepting the award.
NoMoreTails wrote:fightingilliniJRNY wrote:NoMoreTails wrote:I'm really surprised Jonathan wasn't there. The whole band should have been but Arnel is probably back home now.
Again, this award is for being a legend of live performances for their ENTIRE career. Ross and Neal have been there since the beginning. That's why they were the ones accepting the award.
So Jon's contribution is less signifant than Ross?
As far as the entire career, its not as if the band would be getting this award if they had retired from the road 25 years ago with Perry. The members of this band from '98 have contributed to this as much as any. It would have been a smart move on the part of the band to have the current members there for the exposure.
NoMoreTails wrote: The members of this band from '98 have contributed to this as much as any. It would have been a smart move on the part of the band to have the current members there for the exposure.
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