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Journey Gets Another Award...Billboard's Legend of Live

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:36 pm
by RocknRoll
Looks like Journey's getting another award for their concerts.


http://www.billboard.com/events/journey ... 2342.story


Journey to Receive Billboard's 'Legend of Live' Award

by Billboard Staff | October 24, 2011 4:15 EDT

Journey will receive the "Legend of Live" award at the 2011 Billboard Touring Awards, which are presented by Showclix and are taking place November 10 at the Roosevelt Hotel in New York. The awards are part of the Billboard Touring Conference, taking place on the 9th and 10th.

The Billboard "Legend of Live" award honors groups or individuals who have made significant and lasting contributions to live music and the touring business, and acknowledges the recipients' commitment to the art of performing live and reaching fans through the concert experience. Previous award recipients include Rush (2010), Ozzy Osbourne (2009), the Allman Brothers Band (2008), pioneering agent Frank Barsalona (2007), Sir Elton John (2006), Cellar Door Concerts founder Jack Boyle (2005) and promoter Michael Cohl (2004).

Journey remains a hugely successful touring band, having moved nearly 1 million tickets and averaging more than $600,000 a night at the box office on this year's "Eclipse" tour, according to Billboard Boxscore.

"I'm so honored to come to New York to represent the band for all the years and dedication that everyone's given," Journey guitarist and founding member Neal Schon says of the honor.

"Though they have sold millions of records and charted a wealth of the most beloved Billboard hits in history, most would agree that Journey's longevity has in large part been driven by their stellar live performances," said Ray Waddell, Billboard's Executive Director of Content and Programming for Touring and Live Entertainment. "From their days blowing up the Bay Area music scene to their ascent to international headlining and, today, iconic rock status, withstanding personnel changes that would bring down a lesser band, Journey's talent transcends musical trends and draws bigger crowds year after year. In short, Journey personifies a 'Legend of Live.' "


The Billboard Touring Awards honor the industry's top artists, venues and professionals for the year, based on actual data compiled through the Billboard Boxscore chart. This awards reception culminates the two-day Billboard Touring Conference, presented by ShowClix, taking place at Roosevelt Hotel in New York City on November 9-10. The conference unites today's top touring professionals to discuss the current state of the industry. Guided by Ray Waddell, this unique event includes provocative panels, productive roundtables and networking opportunities with touring industry power players and decision makers.

For more information about the 8th annual Billboard Touring Conference & Awards, see
www.BillboardTouringConference.com.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:42 pm
by steveo777
Whoohoo!

Take that, you butt-ass, naysayer freaks! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'd be out buying a Bentley for my girlfriend too!

1 million tickets and $600,000 per night for the Eclipse tour.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:58 pm
by Don
Nearly 1 million tickets.
Not quite the 2.5 million they sold in 1983 but still, not too bad.

I believe this award encompasses the band's entire career, not just any particular year.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:13 pm
by steveo777
Don wrote:Nearly 1 million tickets.
Not quite the 2.5 million they sold in 1983 but still, not too bad.

I believe this award encompasses the band's entire career, not just any particular year.


For where they are now, pretty good showing, if you ask me. Without their entire career this award would not be possible, but these awards are not typical for
new acts, so collectively, they've earned it. It would be cool if they could get all past and present members there for the award. I wonder if Perry would show up?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:22 pm
by RocknRoll
steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:Nearly 1 million tickets.
Not quite the 2.5 million they sold in 1983 but still, not too bad.

I believe this award encompasses the band's entire career, not just any particular year.


For where they are now, pretty good showing, if you ask me. Without their entire career this award would not be possible, but these awards are not typical for
new acts, so collectively, they've earned it. It would be cool if they could get all past and present members there for the award. I wonder if Perry would show up?


Steve, this is an industry type award. Just hold your excitement for a televised award. This is a great award especially since Billboard is now recognizing Journey again. So it's basically still a we'll see.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:21 pm
by annie89509
This is not a televised award? Well, it's still an honor to be recognized by the industry...think about all the other bands that are their peers. Maybe some brownie points for the RnRHOF?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:09 pm
by steveo777
annie89509 wrote:This is not a televised award? Well, it's still an honor to be recognized by the industry...think about all the other bands that are their peers. Maybe some brownie points for the RnRHOF?


Fuck no, with all due respect, Annie. The RnRHOF should be snubbed by now, by anyone with any credibility. They have none! I'm proud of Journey, to have come this far. They were gone for so long.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:30 pm
by Archetype
We just won't tell them about tapegate :wink: What could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:44 am
by jestor92
steveo777 wrote:
1 million tickets and $600,000 per night for the Eclipse tour.

Only 600k per night? Gene Simmons says KISS brings in about a million per night on tour :shock:

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:52 am
by brywool
Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegate :wink: What could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?



This is a really cool award for ANY classic rock band. The fact that these guys and a few others of that era can do some decent business in this economy is pretty respectable. All without the benefit of radio, sales, or tv. Too bad the record companies can't seem to figure out how to actually promote bands like Journey anymore.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:02 am
by Don
brywool wrote:
Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegate :wink: What could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?



This is a really cool award for ANY classic rock band. The fact that these guys and a few others of that era can do some decent business in this economy is pretty respectable. All without the benefit of radio, sales, or tv. Too bad the record companies can't seem to figure out how to actually promote bands like Journey anymore.


There are a few bands that can still get by without a few of these things. An example would be Iron Maiden. How many times do you hear any of their music on the radio or see them do a TV appearance?
Their last album still went top 5 on Billboard and #1 in over a dozen other countries. They sold out stadiums and 50,000 seat arenas this summer in Europe, South America and Asia, MSG, etc.

I think as long as there are no major divisive actions that splinter the fanbase, a band can hold onto its audience pretty much its entire career.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:27 am
by brywool
Don wrote:
brywool wrote:
Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegate :wink: What could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?



This is a really cool award for ANY classic rock band. The fact that these guys and a few others of that era can do some decent business in this economy is pretty respectable. All without the benefit of radio, sales, or tv. Too bad the record companies can't seem to figure out how to actually promote bands like Journey anymore.


There are a few bands that can still get by without a few of these things. An example would be Iron Maiden. How many times do you hear any of their music on the radio or see them do a TV appearance?
Their last album still went top 5 on Billboard and #1 in over a dozen other countries. They sold out stadiums and 50,000 seat arenas this summer in Europe, South America and Asia, MSG, etc.

I think as long as there are no major divisive actions that splinter the fanbase, a band can hold onto its audience pretty much its entire career.


But that's OUTSIDE the US. Even in Cain's interview yesterday, he mentioned that about the "outside American market". They're more open to listening to NEW stuff. Americans don't want anything that's not familiar to them from these acts. That's why Journey plays the Dirty Dozen over here and plays their new stuff outside of the US. If IM (or any of these bands) had to rely on just the US, they'd never put out new music, hence Styx.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:40 am
by Don
brywool wrote:
Don wrote:
brywool wrote:
Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegate :wink: What could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?



This is a really cool award for ANY classic rock band. The fact that these guys and a few others of that era can do some decent business in this economy is pretty respectable. All without the benefit of radio, sales, or tv. Too bad the record companies can't seem to figure out how to actually promote bands like Journey anymore.


There are a few bands that can still get by without a few of these things. An example would be Iron Maiden. How many times do you hear any of their music on the radio or see them do a TV appearance?
Their last album still went top 5 on Billboard and #1 in over a dozen other countries. They sold out stadiums and 50,000 seat arenas this summer in Europe, South America and Asia, MSG, etc.

I think as long as there are no major divisive actions that splinter the fanbase, a band can hold onto its audience pretty much its entire career.


But that's OUTSIDE the US. Even in Cain's interview yesterday, he mentioned that about the "outside American market". They're more open to listening to NEW stuff. Americans don't want anything that's not familiar to them from these acts. That's why Journey plays the Dirty Dozen over here and plays their new stuff outside of the US. If IM (or any of these bands) had to rely on just the US, they'd never put out new music, hence Styx.


Since I'm using Iron Maiden as an example, their last album debuted top 5 in the states and they continue to sell out places like MSG and multiple nights at the L.A. forum, all this without even including some of their biggest hits (The Trooper for example ) in the setlist for every single show.

That said, metal fans are more of your devoted types, where melodic rock bands like Journey and Foreigner due tend to get the "Meh.." type of fans more than not.

Bon Jovi is probably an exception for the latter as they can go out and pretty much play anything/garbage and still sell out stadiums regardless.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:55 am
by brywool
Don wrote:Bon Jovi is probably an exception for the latter as they can go out and pretty much play anything/garbage and still sell out stadiums regardless.


And they do!

I used to really like these guys. I have a tough time listening to anything new that they do. I've tried, but not much grabs me. "Undivided" from Bounce was a great track, but the last hit they had "this one goes out to the garbage man" or whatever, was absolute bottom of the barrel scrapage. TERRIBLE song.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:00 am
by Yoda
Don wrote:
brywool wrote:
Don wrote:
brywool wrote:
Archetype wrote:We just won't tell them about tapegate :wink: What could be a bigger slap to the idea of live performances than that?



This is a really cool award for ANY classic rock band. The fact that these guys and a few others of that era can do some decent business in this economy is pretty respectable. All without the benefit of radio, sales, or tv. Too bad the record companies can't seem to figure out how to actually promote bands like Journey anymore.


There are a few bands that can still get by without a few of these things. An example would be Iron Maiden. How many times do you hear any of their music on the radio or see them do a TV appearance?
Their last album still went top 5 on Billboard and #1 in over a dozen other countries. They sold out stadiums and 50,000 seat arenas this summer in Europe, South America and Asia, MSG, etc.

I think as long as there are no major divisive actions that splinter the fanbase, a band can hold onto its audience pretty much its entire career.


But that's OUTSIDE the US. Even in Cain's interview yesterday, he mentioned that about the "outside American market". They're more open to listening to NEW stuff. Americans don't want anything that's not familiar to them from these acts. That's why Journey plays the Dirty Dozen over here and plays their new stuff outside of the US. If IM (or any of these bands) had to rely on just the US, they'd never put out new music, hence Styx.


Since I'm using Iron Maiden as an example, their last album debuted top 5 in the states and they continue to sell out places like MSG and multiple nights at the L.A. forum, all this without even including some of their biggest hits (The Trooper for example ) in the setlist for every single show.

That said, metal fans are more of your devoted types, where melodic rock bands like Journey and Foreigner due tend to get the "Meh.." type of fans more than not.

Bon Jovi is probably an exception for the latter as they can go out and pretty much play anything/garbage and still sell out stadiums regardless.


....and Iron Maiden has had come concerts that were devoted to only one certain album and that is all they played. Amazing band!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:13 pm
by isla
Phish's Trey Anastasio, Journey's Neal Schon, Perry Farrell Share Memories At Billboard Touring Awards

November 10, 2011

By Phil Gallo, New York

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Tributes came in several shapes and sizes Thursday night at the Billboard Touring Awards in New York, but they were all consistently heartfelt.

Phish's Trey Anastasio paid tribute to Red Light Management's Coran Capshaw, Perry Farrell bordered on tearful saluting legendary concert promoter Bill Graham and Live Nation president of North American Concerts Bob Roux saluted Journey as the ultimate road warriors. And Journey's Neal Schon and Ross Valory paid tribute to the whole reason the concert industry exists -- the fans.

"This last year was by far the best," said Journey co-founder Schon, the only member of Journey who has been in the band for its entire 38-year existence. "It's all about the fans, all about the music. We've always been about the performance, writing good songs. Arel Pineda brought us back into the forefront, really regenerated us. There's really no end to it. We have worked our asses off this year."

Journey received the Legend of Live award, a lifetime achievement award that Roux presented by reciting the tour routing of the first month of a nearly yearlong tour in 1978. It sounded relentless -- 22 shows in 26 days. "Shit Neal," Roux said, "I can see why you went through so many lead singers."

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/touring/phish-s-trey-anastasio-journey-s-neal-schon-1005505952.story

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:48 pm
by steveo777
Where's Arnel?
Did Neal really need to flaunt the skank?
Is Neal wearing eye shadow? :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:02 pm
by RocknRoll
steveo777 wrote:Where's Arnel?
Did Neal really need to flaunt the skank?
Is Neal wearing eye shadow? :shock:


Why would Arnel be there? This is about 38 years of touring!! Ross and Neal have definitely done the majority of these tours...Neal all of them! Strange the lighting is completely different between the 2 photos.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:02 pm
by RocknRoll
Double post...site is acting up!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:13 pm
by Rick
Good lord. Is he sun burned or did he roll his face in a bag of Doritos?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:31 pm
by RocknRoll
Rick wrote:Good lord. Is he sun burned or did he roll his face in a bag of Doritos?

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Looks like time on the bike...raccoon eyes!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:47 pm
by Rick
RocknRoll wrote:
Rick wrote:Good lord. Is he sun burned or did he roll his face in a bag of Doritos?

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Looks like time on the bike...raccoon eyes!


I hope that's the case. How does he have time for that? That's a busy dude.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:08 pm
by RocknRoll
Is that statue bronze or silver? Huge difference in the pics!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:00 pm
by Kor'n
"Arel Pineda brought us back into the forefront, really regenerated us. There's really no end to it. We have worked our asses off this year"


Sopranos, Glee, etc. with DSB brought you "back into the forefront." Check out the sales ( or lack of sales) for Eclipse. Is it "Arel" now?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:12 am
by Yoda
Rick wrote:Good lord. Is he sun burned or did he roll his face in a bag of Doritos?

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Hhhmmmm....regular flavor or cool ranch?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:42 am
by NoMoreTails
I'm really surprised Jonathan wasn't there. The whole band should have been but Arnel is probably back home now.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:28 am
by fightingilliniJRNY
NoMoreTails wrote:I'm really surprised Jonathan wasn't there. The whole band should have been but Arnel is probably back home now.


Again, this award is for being a legend of live performances for their ENTIRE career. Ross and Neal have been there since the beginning. That's why they were the ones accepting the award.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:36 am
by NoMoreTails
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
NoMoreTails wrote:I'm really surprised Jonathan wasn't there. The whole band should have been but Arnel is probably back home now.


Again, this award is for being a legend of live performances for their ENTIRE career. Ross and Neal have been there since the beginning. That's why they were the ones accepting the award.


So Jon's contribution is less signifant than Ross?
As far as the entire career, its not as if the band would be getting this award if they had retired from the road 25 years ago with Perry. The members of this band from '98 have contributed to this as much as any. It would have been a smart move on the part of the band to have the current members there for the exposure.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:37 am
by fightingilliniJRNY
NoMoreTails wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
NoMoreTails wrote:I'm really surprised Jonathan wasn't there. The whole band should have been but Arnel is probably back home now.


Again, this award is for being a legend of live performances for their ENTIRE career. Ross and Neal have been there since the beginning. That's why they were the ones accepting the award.


So Jon's contribution is less signifant than Ross?
As far as the entire career, its not as if the band would be getting this award if they had retired from the road 25 years ago with Perry. The members of this band from '98 have contributed to this as much as any. It would have been a smart move on the part of the band to have the current members there for the exposure.


Okay.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:58 am
by Rockindeano
NoMoreTails wrote: The members of this band from '98 have contributed to this as much as any. It would have been a smart move on the part of the band to have the current members there for the exposure.


LOL. You mean the Journey from 98 to now, who simply played the Perry hits live(sometimes), so the fans could be reminded how good Perry was?

I can't stop laughing. Augeri and Deen contributed "as much?" Oookkkaayy.