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Underrated Journey songs?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:26 pm
by Journey/Survivor
In the last couple of days I've seen people say that "Lay It Down" "Dead Or Alive" "Back Talk" and "Troubled Child" are not good songs, or that they may even all out suck.

I've also seen in the past where some have said that "Can Do" sucks.

All of those songs rank as some of my favorites from the albums that they are on.


So, what are some of Journey's songs that you think are great that a lot of other fans don't seem to like?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:21 pm
by steveo777
Walking Away From The Edge
Let It Take You Back
The Place In Your Heart
Turn Down The World Tonight

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:50 pm
by Journey/Survivor
steveo777 wrote:Walking Away From The Edge
Let It Take You Back
The Place In Your Heart
Turn Down The World Tonight


"The Place In Your Heart" is an awesome song.

All four of those songs are good.

LITYB probably ranks last on my list out of the four? But it's not a bad song.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:54 pm
by DK23
As you mentioned Troubled Child,
Lay it Down

also...
Raised on Radio
The Eyes of a Woman
Better Together
Believe
Turn Down the World Tonight
Where Did I Lose Your Love
To Whom It May Concern
And finally, the song ostensibly disliked by all: Baby I'm a Leavin' You


(funny, as I made this list I thought of a song many people like but one that I just can't get that into: It's Never Too Late)

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:55 pm
by Journey/Survivor
DK23 wrote:As you mentioned Troubled Child,
Lay it Down

also...
Raised on Radio
The Eyes of a Woman
Better Together
Believe
Turn Down the World Tonight
Where Did I Lose Your Love
To Whom It May Concern
And finally, the song ostensibly disliked by all: Baby I'm a Leavin' You


(funny, as I made this list I thought of a song many people like but one that I just can't get that into: It's Never Too Late)


I love (The song) "Raised On Radio."
"Eyes Of A Woman" took a while to grow on me, but I do like it in recent years.
"Better Together" kicks ass. I love that song.
I have mixed emotions about "Believe." I like it in most ways, but it's too repetitive toward the end of the song with the chorus.

"Turn Down The World Tonight" is pretty good.
"Where Did I Lose Your Love" is another great song.
"To Whom It May Concern" might be my least favorite song from Eclipse.
"Baby I'm Leavin' You" is just a novelty song to me.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:00 pm
by Archetype
Troubled Child could be a powerful live song

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:47 am
by george_g
it's never too late
kiss me softly
signs of life
if he should brake your heart
colors of the spirit
wildest dreams

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:49 am
by jrny84
Eyes of a Woman
Happy to Give
Ill be alright without you
Girl Cant Help It (Live)
If He Should Break Your Heart
Ask the Lonely
Turn Down the World Tonight
Faith in the Heartland

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:04 am
by The_Noble_Cause
Almost everything post-Perry, especially the early years - "Remember Me", "Higher Place", "Signs of Life" - some of this stuff isn't just on par with the Perry years, it's better!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:12 am
by Enigma869
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Almost everything post-Perry, especially the early years - "Remember Me", "Higher Place", "Signs of Life" - some of this stuff isn't just on par with the Perry years, it's better!


I think that fucking taco is frying your brain, dude :shock:

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:03 am
by annpea
Edge of the blade
Signs of life
All the way
Troubled child
I'm not that way

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:44 am
by musicfan17
I thought of the song(s) off each album from infinity forward that came to mind. Deep cuts, under-rated etc.. There's actually a lot of really good songs here...

Winds of March
Lovin' You Is Easy... (One of My All Time Favorite under rated Journey Tunes)
Daydream
Stay Awhile
The Party's Over
Escape
Lay It Down
Edge Of The Blade
Frontiers
Troubled Child...(Powerful and Haunting)
* Nothing off ROR, as a Journey album it was average at best and was essentially Steve Perry's second solo record with a better guitarist.
Can't Tame The Lion
One More
Remember Me
Loved By You
Signs of Life
Faith In The Heartland (Augeri version)
Like A Sunshower
Change For The Better
Resonate
She's A Mystery
Only Soultions (Tron)

Whew! That's a lot of Journey tunes! And honestly, this selection of stuff while just mine, is probably stronger than quite a few other acts hits in some cases. It just shows how deep Journey's song catalog goes.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:25 am
by onmyjrny
There are several songs I really like but I can see why they were never hits...music is a very personal thing and some songs just speak to you, even though the rest of the world just doesn't get them. :)

Living to Do is one of the most powerful, emotional songs I've ever heard. I wish they had spent a little more time on the lyrics, but the music is just haunting to me. They did this live and Steve A. really delivered. I love the way he sings it, but part of me has always wanted to know what Steve P. would have done.

Easy to Fall - the song I turn to whenever I screw up badly. :)

Lay it Down is one that I originally wrote off, but going back and listening to it today I think SP and NS both deliver powerful performances on the song.

Frankly I am glad Frontiers had TC and BT on it. It gave the album more diversity and got Journey back on the charts a couple of years later when VisionQuest came out. I bought the VQ soundtrack for OTY, but Madonna was just becoming popular at that time so a lot of people got the soundtrack for her songs.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:16 pm
by Gideon
Red 13, Eclipse, and the majority of Trial By Fire.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:52 pm
by ebake02
One More
The Place In Your Heart
Never Too Late
Easy To Fall
Remember Me
Where Did I Lose Your Love
Edge Of The Blade
What I Needed
Colors Of The Spirit
All The Way
Livin' To Do
Chain Of Love
Anything Is Possible
City Of Hope

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:48 pm
by The_Noble_Cause
Enigma869 wrote:I think that fucking taco is frying your brain, dude :shock:


"Higher Place" is probably the best Journey song outside of "Don't Stop Believin" and "Serparate Ways." Sorry if you disagree,

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:24 pm
by Deb
Easy To Fall
It Could Have Been You
If He Should Break Your Heart
Dixie Highway
Walks Like A Lady
The Party's Over
Daydream

:lol: Absolute least favorite: Can Do

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:40 pm
by steveo777
Deb wrote:Easy To Fall
It Could Have Been You
If He Should Break Your Heart
Dixie Highway
Walks Like A Lady
The Party's Over
Daydream

:lol: Absolute least favorite: Can Do


Journey didn't stop with Trial By Fire. You can do better than that! There are plenty of good works after Steve's attempted demolition of the band. :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:51 am
by Enigma869
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
"Higher Place" is probably the best Journey song outside of "Don't Stop Believin" and "Serparate Ways." Sorry if you disagree,


No need to be sorry. I actually liked "Arrival" quite a bit. That said, I personally don't think that it compares to anything they did with Perry. For me, Journey without Perry has always been nothing more than a label. To me, it's like ABC Cola slapping a "Coke" label on their can and pretending that it's the same product. While it may be good, it didn't compare to the "classic" for me.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:15 pm
by Rick
Enigma869 wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
"Higher Place" is probably the best Journey song outside of "Don't Stop Believin" and "Serparate Ways." Sorry if you disagree,


No need to be sorry. I actually liked "Arrival" quite a bit. That said, I personally don't think that it compares to anything they did with Perry. For me, Journey without Perry has always been nothing more than a label. To me, it's like ABC Cola slapping a "Coke" label on their can and pretending that it's the same product. While it may be good, it didn't compare to the "classic" for me.


While I'm a fan of Pineda led Journey, it's hard to argue with that comment there. Nicely said.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:31 pm
by steveo777
Rick wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
"Higher Place" is probably the best Journey song outside of "Don't Stop Believin" and "Serparate Ways." Sorry if you disagree,


No need to be sorry. I actually liked "Arrival" quite a bit. That said, I personally don't think that it compares to anything they did with Perry. For me, Journey without Perry has always been nothing more than a label. To me, it's like ABC Cola slapping a "Coke" label on their can and pretending that it's the same product. While it may be good, it didn't compare to the "classic" for me.


While I'm a fan of Pineda led Journey, it's hard to argue with that comment there. Nicely said.


Levi's just don't feel the same when they are made in China. Fear not, Neal or Assoff will insist that Journey reinvents itself next year. It's gonna be Friga's and Jack's band! :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:40 pm
by Real rock fan
musicfan17 wrote:I thought of the song(s) off each album from infinity forward that came to mind. Deep cuts, under-rated etc.. There's actually a lot of really good songs here...

Winds of March
Lovin' You Is Easy... (One of My All Time Favorite under rated Journey Tunes)
Daydream
Stay Awhile
The Party's Over
Escape
Lay It Down
Edge Of The Blade
Frontiers
Troubled Child...(Powerful and Haunting)
* Nothing off ROR, as a Journey album it was average at best and was essentially Steve Perry's second solo record with a better guitarist.
Can't Tame The Lion
One More
Remember Me
Loved By You
Signs of Life
Only Soultions (Tron)

Whew! That's a lot of Journey tunes! And honestly, this selection of stuff while just mine, is probably stronger than quite a few other acts hits in some cases. It just shows how deep Journey's song catalog goes.


Agreed with most of the songs you listed, Lovin` You Is Easy is also one of my favourites with awesome guitar.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:04 pm
by Majestic
I'm Cryin' is a way underrated track.

Perry's vocals are smoking, and it is just a nasty hurtin' blues track where Perry and Schon are both terrific together.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:07 am
by SF-Dano
Pre-Perry (I know very few care :wink: ):
Of a Lifetime
Topaz
Kohoutek
Mystery Mountain
Look Into the Future (Masterpiece IMO)
Nickel & Dime
Karma

Perry Years:
Winds of March
Too Late
When You're Alone It Ain't Easy
Do You Recall
Precious Time
I'm Cryin
Line of Fire
Stay Awhile
Little Girl
Still They Ride
Dead or Alive (Like this one. Jammin guitar)
Edge of the Blade
Troubled Child
Rubicon
Ask The Lonely
La Raza Del Sol
Liberty
One More
Still She Cries

Post-Perry:
The whole Arrival CD( especially HP, LTD, WGW, L&B, TBAA)
Faith In the Heartland (Augeri version)
The Place in Your Heart
A Better Life
NeverTo Late
All of Revelation (especially CFTB, AATY, WDILYL)
All of Eclipse (especially EOTM, COL, Resonate, SAM)

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:41 am
by StringsOfJoy
Real rock fan wrote:
musicfan17 wrote:I thought of the song(s) off each album from infinity forward that came to mind. Deep cuts, under-rated etc.. There's actually a lot of really good songs here...

Winds of March
Lovin' You Is Easy... (One of My All Time Favorite under rated Journey Tunes)
Daydream
Stay Awhile
The Party's Over
Escape
Lay It Down
Edge Of The Blade
Frontiers
Troubled Child...(Powerful and Haunting)
* Nothing off ROR, as a Journey album it was average at best and was essentially Steve Perry's second solo record with a better guitarist.
Can't Tame The Lion
One More
Remember Me
Loved By You
Signs of Life
Only Soultions (Tron)

Whew! That's a lot of Journey tunes! And honestly, this selection of stuff while just mine, is probably stronger than quite a few other acts hits in some cases. It just shows how deep Journey's song catalog goes.


Agreed with most of the songs you listed, Lovin` You Is Easy is also one of my favourites with awesome guitar.


So far I like and agree with most of musicfan17's list too. I'd also add Mother, Father...which I think is simply epic.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:05 am
by Red13JoePa
The Time.


Rarely heard Neal as menacing.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:22 am
by timstar78
"Why Can't This Night Go On Forever."

Amazing song, amazing performances all around, especially Steve's vocal. A song like this should have cracked the Top 40 at the least.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:48 am
by brandonx76
musicfan17 wrote:She's A Mystery**

Whew! That's a lot of Journey tunes! And honestly, this selection of stuff while just mine, is probably stronger than quite a few other acts hits in some cases. It just shows how deep Journey's song catalog goes.


You're the first to mention in this thread I believe, so I'm picking up here..She's a Mystery just came on...very nice acoustic throwback vibe in the beginning, a great build / turnaround section, then the knock you on your ass second part comes in...a great Neal & Co. moment! 8)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:03 pm
by mikemarrs
Winds Of March
Too Late
Natural Thing
People And Places
Dixie Highway
Dead Or Alive
Rubicon
Happy To Give
Easy To Fall

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:58 am
by hoagiepete
Precious Time
Higher Place (still waiting for an NCAA March Madness video montage set to this song)
Better Life